Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 27,

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Meggle
Hi easy,

easy wrote:
  
  
  good work done. but ,unpolitly,I speak,this version is broken in surport 
 multi-language,I changed many place will the string is hardcode in source 
 file,and there many problems to do it.
   

Many developers over time and over countries and it could be :-).
We just needed en as language and it could be that this happen. 
Looking forward to your subversion commits and thanks for the information.

Robert


  


 在2008-07-10 18:23:08,Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道:
   
 Hi Alvaro, 

 From wich country you are? I had been several times in Tanzania to see
 how they are working. They have barcode reader as I mentioned before, I
 haven't seen it on those hospitals working with care2x. 
 The original question was why it's not visible and that's the answer for
 it. Please note that it came to me as specific hospital requirement and
 so its just commented out.
 All other scopes of typically daily work of e.g. the OPD are covered. We
 haven't focused barcode reader because that was not in the priority list
 or even needed. If you are satisfy, you can use the system out of the
 box. If not then you might have the possibility to reactivate the
 barcodes. That's no problem, that's open source. I just showed the code
 we are working now. 
 Please let me know when you've released the code changes - it seems we
 should be able to configure it at administration menu on care2x that all
 are happy :-)
 It's an developers mailing list, isn't it?

 I can do that as well when I will find time to implement it and will
 commit it. 

 Robert

 Am Donnerstag, den 10.07.2008, 12:56 +0300 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Robert
 I think that you have to come to Africa to know what we have here and the
 development of the Africa ICT sector. It is not professional to launch
 concepts without any base.

 Alvaro Gutierrez

   
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Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

2008-07-11 Thread Alvaro Gutierrez
Robert
I am very sorry about my comments. I was reading your firs e-mail as it is,
with no any other point of view. I was the one that was not professional
when I send my comments.

Alvaro Gutierrez

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robert Meggle
Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26
To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this 
posting to them!

I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I 
am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from 
Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-).
But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick 
skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in 
my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies 
and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but 
just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the 
idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals.

I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near 
past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list 
and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with 
permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I 
really would like to avoid that because it is really  not the open 
source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his 
speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the 
possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line 
of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation 
of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others 
here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public 
and private area?

BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please 
forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of 
pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore 
those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER 
UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining!

Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have 
supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what 
happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its 
solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who 
did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I 
answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of 
East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all 
others in Morocco, Cameroon

looking forward to your comments - Robert


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Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

2008-07-11 Thread Alvaro Gutierrez
Robert:

I am in Kenya, and I am developing modules for ART/HIV, TB and Malaria using
the poor infrastructure available in rural areas. After I sent my comments,
I discover that you were working before in Tanzania, and you know our
installations and environment. 

Alvaro Gutierrez

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robert Meggle
Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26
To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this 
posting to them!

I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I 
am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from 
Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-).
But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick 
skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in 
my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies 
and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but 
just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the 
idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals.

I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near 
past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list 
and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with 
permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I 
really would like to avoid that because it is really  not the open 
source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his 
speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the 
possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line 
of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation 
of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others 
here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public 
and private area?

BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please 
forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of 
pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore 
those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER 
UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining!

Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have 
supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what 
happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its 
solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who 
did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I 
answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of 
East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all 
others in Morocco, Cameroon

looking forward to your comments - Robert


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Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Meggle
Hi Alvaro,

No worry, I haven't meant especially you. Because you seems to me with 
intention to develop - and from those  actually we should accept or 
critics in more direct words instead of using metaphoric periphrasis 
with risk of misunderstanding  :-)

Robert


Alvaro Gutierrez wrote:
 Robert
 I am very sorry about my comments. I was reading your firs e-mail as it is,
 with no any other point of view. I was the one that was not professional
 when I send my comments.

 Alvaro Gutierrez

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Robert Meggle
 Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26
 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

 Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this 
 posting to them!

 I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I 
 am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from 
 Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-).
 But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick 
 skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in 
 my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies 
 and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but 
 just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the 
 idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals.

 I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near 
 past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list 
 and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with 
 permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I 
 really would like to avoid that because it is really  not the open 
 source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his 
 speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the 
 possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line 
 of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation 
 of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others 
 here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public 
 and private area?

 BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please 
 forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of 
 pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore 
 those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER 
 UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining!

 Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have 
 supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what 
 happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its 
 solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who 
 did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I 
 answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of 
 East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all 
 others in Morocco, Cameroon

 looking forward to your comments - Robert


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Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Meggle
Hi Alvaro,

Yes, I know that you're working in Kenya.. :-) Mabe the OPD section for 
ARV could be interesting what we did so far.

Robert


Alvaro Gutierrez wrote:
 Robert:

 I am in Kenya, and I am developing modules for ART/HIV, TB and Malaria using
 the poor infrastructure available in rural areas. After I sent my comments,
 I discover that you were working before in Tanzania, and you know our
 installations and environment. 

 Alvaro Gutierrez

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Robert Meggle
 Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26
 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail

 Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this 
 posting to them!

 I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I 
 am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from 
 Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-).
 But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick 
 skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in 
 my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies 
 and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but 
 just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the 
 idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals.

 I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near 
 past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list 
 and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with 
 permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I 
 really would like to avoid that because it is really  not the open 
 source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his 
 speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the 
 possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line 
 of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation 
 of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others 
 here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public 
 and private area?

 BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please 
 forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of 
 pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore 
 those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER 
 UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining!

 Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have 
 supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what 
 happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its 
 solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who 
 did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I 
 answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of 
 East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all 
 others in Morocco, Cameroon

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