Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha
Hi Claudio, Elpidio, Daniel and others, Just took this email to make some ideas about the future. First of all let say also thanks from my side to Claudi, for the hard work he did. Everyone who is working on open source knows how much work it is and how much of positive conditioning is needed to motivate to continue. It's a fact that in the last years there had been quite interesting requests on my table asking for care2x and how it can be used. Some tested it, some are just interested in but most of all just checked it out, modified it and I lost the contact to them. So I guess they are fine but haven't got any feedback so far. Let's bring the example from Healthnet Nepal, there was a request 2006 from one system programmer there to modify care2x 2.0 HEAD-release to a private clinic in Nepal. Now he is not working at this company, he moved to an ISP as system admin in Kathmandu/Nepal. His follower of his old company showed me once the work he did asking for some detail questions how care2x works. So here I saw that they did really Nepalese customaries, but not usable for rest of the world. Also some diplomatic issues of his boss of getting afraid about competition when he will publish and release it for Nepal. (Latter just a feeling, if everyone in Nepal reading it, and my interpretation is not true, just feel free to correct it :-) So that's just one example that the work we are doing are correct. Most of all assigned here on SF.NET might could tell similar stories and some of the developers did once such a job and now still reading the developers list. I will not say that care2x is lost, but actually Mauri is right. Care2x is an application for Hospitals what is worldwide used. Everyone having own requirements what makes the availability of scalable (and also free!) software so extremely difficult. So care2x is not stopped. By conception and working on the care3x, we are really on a right trap and by getting all of these influences, ideas and concepts worldwide it makes clear what we need: Really flexibility and techniques used rooted to the soil (Web application - no linked compiled stuff from c++ or just resource killing java applets). So let's start from the beginning. A registration module what can be used woldwide, in Europe, Africa, Asia and all other continents. Then we should use the latest technologies like MVC to have a good control to add, remove or disable components and each of it must be individual changeable - and most of the modules should be able to migrate. Sounds not realistic, but it's just what we have.. a free care2x used now worldwide but when it's running, there is seldom a feedback that it is what it is: Just working. Robert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:care2002- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dr. med. Daniel Hinostroza Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Januar 2008 18:14 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha Claudio, perhaps can you continue as release manager until the alpha release of care2x v 3.0 on Feb 29, 2008? Maybe you can assign tasks and we can sign-up for them as testers. That way, you can resign with a complete release. All the very best, Daniel Claudio Torbinio escribió: First alpha release of care2x v 3.0 will be delivered on 02/29/2008. Please report any suggestion and working possibility. CGT - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha
Thank you very much Robert. I agree with your statement that when Care2x becomes adapted to a local hospital, the result is too customized and not useful for other countries. This has become obvious a couple of years ago when the Italian Olympic Committe Clinic gave us all their modifications of Care2x. The product was too much customized that even I could not make it useful for my locality. This packaged has been on the internet for download but nobody really found it useful (except for the Italian clinic of course). The Care2x is a concept, not just a software code. If we embrace the concept consistently, we can have a product that is adaptable to our local needs. There has been reports of Care2x running in other countries (or at least reports of customization work being started) but follow up inquiries did not add much to the initial information until the sporadic contacts ultimately stopped. This is not to be seen as Care2x being stopped. I am inclined to say that the reason is more or less similar to what Robert is thinking about the Nepalese version. Regards to everybody. Elpidio On 1/27/08, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claudio, Elpidio, Daniel and others, Just took this email to make some ideas about the future. First of all let say also thanks from my side to Claudi, for the hard work he did. Everyone who is working on open source knows how much work it is and how much of positive conditioning is needed to motivate to continue. It's a fact that in the last years there had been quite interesting requests on my table asking for care2x and how it can be used. Some tested it, some are just interested in but most of all just checked it out, modified it and I lost the contact to them. So I guess they are fine but haven't got any feedback so far. Let's bring the example from Healthnet Nepal, there was a request 2006 from one system programmer there to modify care2x 2.0 HEAD-release to a private clinic in Nepal. Now he is not working at this company, he moved to an ISP as system admin in Kathmandu/Nepal. His follower of his old company showed me once the work he did asking for some detail questions how care2x works. So here I saw that they did really Nepalese customaries, but not usable for rest of the world. Also some diplomatic issues of his boss of getting afraid about competition when he will publish and release it for Nepal. (Latter just a feeling, if everyone in Nepal reading it, and my interpretation is not true, just feel free to correct it :-) So that's just one example that the work we are doing are correct. Most of all assigned here on SF.NET might could tell similar stories and some of the developers did once such a job and now still reading the developers list. I will not say that care2x is lost, but actually Mauri is right. Care2x is an application for Hospitals what is worldwide used. Everyone having own requirements what makes the availability of scalable (and also free!) software so extremely difficult. So care2x is not stopped. By conception and working on the care3x, we are really on a right trap and by getting all of these influences, ideas and concepts worldwide it makes clear what we need: Really flexibility and techniques used rooted to the soil (Web application - no linked compiled stuff from c++ or just resource killing java applets). So let's start from the beginning. A registration module what can be used woldwide, in Europe, Africa, Asia and all other continents. Then we should use the latest technologies like MVC to have a good control to add, remove or disable components and each of it must be individual changeable - and most of the modules should be able to migrate. Sounds not realistic, but it's just what we have.. a free care2x used now worldwide but when it's running, there is seldom a feedback that it is what it is: Just working. Robert - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha
Hello Claudio Would it be possible to include the following prescription/medication functionality in the V 3 release: 1. Prescribe medication - Drug, Dose, Route, Directions, Quantity, Start date, Stop date e.g. Amoxicillin, 250 mg, Oral, three times a day, 21 capsules, 10 Jan 2008, 17 Jan 2008 2. Amend medication details 3. Stop/Discontinue medication Thank you Andrew Gledhill UK Hospital Pharmacist Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/01/2008 0:43 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subj: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha First alpha release of care2x v 3.0 will be delivered on 02/29/2008. Please report any suggestion and working possibility. CGT -- Dr Claudio G. Torbinio http://cgt.altervista.org http://cgt.altervista.org/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] callto://nursind.ancona (Skype ID) mobile: +393339925580 -- Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning privacy, if you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call n. +393339925580 and destroy it. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf. net/marketplace ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers __ Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha
Hello Claudio Will develop module HL7 Care2x? and function report for patient (when patient discharge, he/she can have a group document about they treatment in hopsital.) Thanks, Gwen Lee - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha
First alpha release of care2x v 3.0 will be delivered on 02/29/2008. Please report any suggestion and working possibility. CGT -- Dr Claudio G. Torbinio http://cgt.altervista.org http://cgt.altervista.org/blog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] callto://nursind.ancona (Skype ID) mobile: +393339925580 -- Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning privacy, if you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call n. +393339925580 and destroy it. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers