Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha

2008-01-27 Thread Robert Meggle
Hi Claudio, Elpidio, Daniel and others,

Just took this email to make some ideas about the future. First of all let
say also thanks from my side to Claudi, for the hard work he did. Everyone
who is working on open source knows how much work it is and how much of
positive conditioning is needed to motivate to continue.

It's a fact that in the last years there had been quite interesting requests
on my table asking for care2x and how it can be used. Some tested it, some
are just interested in but most of all just checked it out, modified it and
I lost the contact to them. So I guess they are fine but haven't got any
feedback so far. Let's bring the example from Healthnet Nepal, there was a
request 2006 from one system programmer there to modify care2x 2.0
HEAD-release to a private clinic in Nepal. Now he is not working at this
company, he moved to an ISP as system admin in Kathmandu/Nepal. His follower
of his old company showed me once the work he did asking for some detail
questions how care2x works. So here I saw that they did really Nepalese
customaries, but not usable for rest of the world. Also some diplomatic
issues of his boss of getting afraid about competition when he will publish
and release it for Nepal. (Latter just a feeling, if everyone in Nepal
reading it, and my interpretation is not true, just feel free to correct it
:-)

So that's just one example that the work we are doing are correct. Most of
all assigned here on SF.NET might could tell similar stories and some of the
developers did once such a job and now still reading the developers list.

I will not say that care2x is lost, but actually Mauri is right. Care2x is
an application for Hospitals what is worldwide used. Everyone having own
requirements what makes the availability of scalable (and also free!)
software so extremely difficult. 

So care2x is not stopped. By conception and working on the care3x, we are
really on a right trap and by getting all of these influences, ideas and
concepts worldwide it makes clear what we need: Really flexibility and
techniques used rooted to the soil (Web application - no linked compiled
stuff from c++ or just resource killing java applets). So let's start from
the beginning. A registration module what can be used woldwide, in Europe,
Africa, Asia and all other continents. Then we should use the latest
technologies like MVC to have a good control to add, remove or disable
components and each of it must be individual changeable - and most of the
modules should be able to migrate. Sounds not realistic, but it's just what
we have.. a free care2x used now worldwide but when it's running, there is
seldom a feedback that it is what it is: Just working.

Robert



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 Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Januar 2008 18:14
 An: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
 Betreff: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha
 
 Claudio,
 perhaps can you continue as release manager until the alpha release of
 care2x v 3.0 on Feb 29, 2008?
 Maybe you can assign tasks and we can sign-up for them as testers.
 That way, you can resign with a complete release.
 All the very best,
 Daniel
 
 Claudio Torbinio escribió:
  First alpha release of care2x v 3.0 will be delivered on 02/29/2008.
  Please report any suggestion and working possibility.
  CGT
 
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha

2008-01-27 Thread Elpidio Latorilla
Thank you very much Robert.

I agree with your statement that when Care2x becomes adapted to a local
hospital, the result is too customized and not useful for other countries.
This has become obvious a couple of years ago when the Italian Olympic
Committe
Clinic gave us all their modifications of Care2x. The product was too much
customized that even I could not make it useful for my locality. This
packaged has been on the internet for download but nobody really found it
useful (except for the Italian clinic of course).

The Care2x is a concept, not just a software code. If we embrace the concept
consistently, we can have a product that is adaptable to our local needs.

There has been reports of Care2x running in other countries (or at least
reports of
customization work being started) but follow up inquiries did not add much
to
the initial information until the sporadic contacts ultimately stopped. This
is not
to be seen as Care2x being stopped. I am inclined to say that the reason is
more or less
similar to what Robert is thinking about the Nepalese version.

Regards to everybody.

Elpidio

On 1/27/08, Robert Meggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Claudio, Elpidio, Daniel and others,

 Just took this email to make some ideas about the future. First of all let
 say also thanks from my side to Claudi, for the hard work he did. Everyone
 who is working on open source knows how much work it is and how much of
 positive conditioning is needed to motivate to continue.

 It's a fact that in the last years there had been quite interesting
 requests
 on my table asking for care2x and how it can be used. Some tested it, some
 are just interested in but most of all just checked it out, modified it
 and
 I lost the contact to them. So I guess they are fine but haven't got any
 feedback so far. Let's bring the example from Healthnet Nepal, there was
 a
 request 2006 from one system programmer there to modify care2x 2.0
 HEAD-release to a private clinic in Nepal. Now he is not working at this
 company, he moved to an ISP as system admin in Kathmandu/Nepal. His
 follower
 of his old company showed me once the work he did asking for some detail
 questions how care2x works. So here I saw that they did really Nepalese
 customaries, but not usable for rest of the world. Also some diplomatic
 issues of his boss of getting afraid about competition when he will
 publish
 and release it for Nepal. (Latter just a feeling, if everyone in Nepal
 reading it, and my interpretation is not true, just feel free to correct
 it
 :-)

 So that's just one example that the work we are doing are correct. Most of
 all assigned here on SF.NET might could tell similar stories and some of
 the
 developers did once such a job and now still reading the developers list.

 I will not say that care2x is lost, but actually Mauri is right. Care2x is
 an application for Hospitals what is worldwide used. Everyone having own
 requirements what makes the availability of scalable (and also free!)
 software so extremely difficult.

 So care2x is not stopped. By conception and working on the care3x, we are
 really on a right trap and by getting all of these influences, ideas and
 concepts worldwide it makes clear what we need: Really flexibility and
 techniques used rooted to the soil (Web application - no linked compiled
 stuff from c++ or just resource killing java applets). So let's start from
 the beginning. A registration module what can be used woldwide, in Europe,
 Africa, Asia and all other continents. Then we should use the latest
 technologies like MVC to have a good control to add, remove or disable
 components and each of it must be individual changeable - and most of the
 modules should be able to migrate. Sounds not realistic, but it's just
 what
 we have.. a free care2x used now worldwide but when it's running, there is
 seldom a feedback that it is what it is: Just working.

 Robert


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Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha

2008-01-10 Thread agledh...@lineone.net
Hello Claudio

Would it be possible to include the following 
prescription/medication functionality in the V 3 release:

1. Prescribe medication - Drug, Dose, Route, Directions, Quantity, 
Start date, Stop date

e.g. Amoxicillin, 250 mg, Oral, three times a day, 21 capsules, 10 Jan 
2008, 17 Jan 2008

2. Amend medication details

3. Stop/Discontinue medication

Thank you

Andrew Gledhill
UK Hospital Pharmacist







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First alpha release of care2x v 3.0 will be delivered on 02/29/2008. 
Please report any suggestion and working possibility. 
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha

2008-01-10 Thread Kim Quyen Ly
Hello Claudio
Will develop module HL7 Care2x? and function report for patient (when
patient discharge,  he/she can have a group document about they treatment in
hopsital.)

Thanks,
Gwen Lee
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[Care2002-developers] Care2x V 3.0 alpha

2008-01-09 Thread Claudio Torbinio
First alpha release of care2x v 3.0 will be delivered on 02/29/2008. 
Please report any suggestion and working possibility. 
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