Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail
Robert I am very sorry about my comments. I was reading your firs e-mail as it is, with no any other point of view. I was the one that was not professional when I send my comments. Alvaro Gutierrez -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Meggle Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this posting to them! I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-). But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals. I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I really would like to avoid that because it is really not the open source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public and private area? BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining! Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all others in Morocco, Cameroon looking forward to your comments - Robert - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail
Robert: I am in Kenya, and I am developing modules for ART/HIV, TB and Malaria using the poor infrastructure available in rural areas. After I sent my comments, I discover that you were working before in Tanzania, and you know our installations and environment. Alvaro Gutierrez -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Meggle Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this posting to them! I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-). But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals. I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I really would like to avoid that because it is really not the open source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public and private area? BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining! Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all others in Morocco, Cameroon looking forward to your comments - Robert - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail
Hi Alvaro, No worry, I haven't meant especially you. Because you seems to me with intention to develop - and from those actually we should accept or critics in more direct words instead of using metaphoric periphrasis with risk of misunderstanding :-) Robert Alvaro Gutierrez wrote: Robert I am very sorry about my comments. I was reading your firs e-mail as it is, with no any other point of view. I was the one that was not professional when I send my comments. Alvaro Gutierrez -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Meggle Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this posting to them! I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-). But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals. I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I really would like to avoid that because it is really not the open source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public and private area? BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining! Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all others in Morocco, Cameroon looking forward to your comments - Robert - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list
Re: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail
Hi Alvaro, Yes, I know that you're working in Kenya.. :-) Mabe the OPD section for ARV could be interesting what we did so far. Robert Alvaro Gutierrez wrote: Robert: I am in Kenya, and I am developing modules for ART/HIV, TB and Malaria using the poor infrastructure available in rural areas. After I sent my comments, I discover that you were working before in Tanzania, and you know our installations and environment. Alvaro Gutierrez -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Meggle Sent: 11 July 2008 12:26 To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Care2002-developers] suggestions I got by private mail Real developers/consultancies on this list, and I just address this posting to them! I am little bit worry about the tone of some mailings here. No worry, I am used to answer and I am living from criticism, I'm from Bavaria/Germany and there is the common way to argue on that way :-). But other developers with really good intentions here having such thick skin like I have - and avoid to commit their code here. That's a pain in my eyes. There are three kind of users here: developers, consultancies and those who want to see them self in the role of consultancies but just complaining and not having any medical background desist from the idea getting code here and selling it as service to hospitals. I got some private mails from developers/consultancies here in the near past ( 5 - just this week) to share sorrow about the tone in that list and even some with suggestions to protect this mailing list with permissions to have a close circle of known developers/consultancies. I really would like to avoid that because it is really not the open source idea I am following. Open Source means freedom, also in his speech and meaning - but when I have now the feeling that most of the possible commits are not being shared - to be afraid to get in such line of unqualified fire... nowstrictly following my own interpretation of that OSS idea to share even those suggestions I got: What all others here thinking about that idea to split this developers group in a public and private area? BUT you can be sure - everyone who commits is warm welcome and please forget those replies from those who never commit and splinless use of pseudonyms/aliases in their from-mailingheaders . So please ignore those... keep on smiling when you notice them and looking forward. CHEER UP! Every commit is warm welcome and forget these trolls just complaining! Actually I just know from implementations of Kathmandu/Nepal what I have supported by some ideas years ago. I do not got some informations what happened so far after kick off or maybe implementation issues and its solutions. Maybe we could get some requirements from those countries who did it also. Same message I would like to address tho those who I answered PM's at Mauritius, Solomon Islands (who used the tribe idea of East Africa patient registration for their different islands) and all others in Morocco, Cameroon looking forward to your comments - Robert - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
