Hi Donna,

Thanks a lot for the help.

I ran the commands as you suggested and now I can compute the volume and
the hull. My understanding is that the inputs that you chose for creating
volume (*-volume-create** 176 208 176*  ) and the origin (
*-volume-set-origin* hull_vol.nii hull_vol.nii *-88.0 -123.0 -75.0*) were
the reason I was getting error. Should I use these numbers for any data?

As you mentioned, since my dataset includes sheep brains, computed cerebral
hull may not be as convex as it should be.  However, if I can compute an
accurate segmentation volume with Caret, I can compute the hull with more
adjusted tuning parameters in Matlable.

The problem is that the brains are smaller than human brain and and I think
volume spacing 1 1 1 is quite big for them. I tried to use a smaller volume
spacing (e.g. caret_command *-volume-set-spacing* hull_vol.nii
hull_vol.nii *0.2
0.2 0.2*) but it is giving me errors. Do you think there would be any way
to use volume spacing smaller than 1 for this caret command.

Cheers,
Rosita



On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:16 AM, <do...@brainvis.wustl.edu> wrote:

> Hi Rosita,
>
> This is a sheep brain, so I don't know that the hull Caret generates will
> be suitable for your purposes, because this was designed for human brains.
>
> Still, I tried these steps after converting to caret coord/topo:
>
> caret_command -volume-create 176 208 176 hull_vol.nii
> caret_command -volume-set-origin hull_vol.nii hull_vol.nii -88.0 -123.0
> -75.0
> caret_command -volume-set-spacing hull_vol.nii hull_vol.nii 1 1 1
> caret_command -surface-to-segmentation-volume sheep_90_rh.pial.surf.coord
> sheep_90_rh.pial.surf.topo hull_vol.nii
> caret_command -surface-identify-sulci Other.sheep.R.1002.spec right
> hull_vol.nii sheep_90_rh.pial.surf.topo sheep_90_rh.pial.surf.coord
> sheep_90_rh.pial.surf.coord NIFTI_GZIP
>
> And I got a cerebral hull volume, but it probably isn't as convex as you'd
> like.  How are you using this?
>
> Donna
>
>
> > Thanks for offering help Donna!
> >
> > I uploaded the surface *.stl and its converted version to *.pial that I
> > used as the input for Caret.
> >
> > The folder also include a text file containing commands that I used. For
> > some reason I can not run caret commands in my terminal so I use caret
> > command executor. So, I wrote the name of the used command and their
> > inputs
> > as well as the complete command.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rosita
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Donna Dierker <do...@brainvis.wustl.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Upload a zip file containing the script (or just email commands used)
> >> and
> >> the inputs (surface or segmentation) here:
> >>
> >> http://brainvis.wustl.edu/cgi-bin/upload.cgi
> >>
> >> I'll have a look.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 12:31 AM, Rosita Shishegar <
> >> r.shishe...@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Donna and all caret users,
> >> >
> >> > Happy new year!
> >> >
> >> > Before, I asked about computing sulcal depth from the cortical
> >> surface.
> >> Donna suggested that I use gen_depth.sh file as a guide.
> >> >
> >> > Using the commands, first I tried to create the volume from the
> >> surface
> >> which later I needed for computing hull and the sulcal depth. Later, I
> >> ran
> >> caret command SURFACE IDENTIFY SULCI using the previous step output but
> >> I
> >> get an error saying cerebral hull VTK file has no points.
> >> >
> >> > I think I do not create segmentation volume properly because when
> >> visualizing the volume (output_volume.nii file created using SURFACE TO
> >> SEGMENTATION VOLUME), it includes just few voxels in a raw.
> >> >
> >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Rosita
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Donna Dierker <
> >> donna.dier...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> > Hi Rosita,
> >> >
> >> > This zip archive has a script named gen_depth.sh:
> >> >
> >> > brainmap.wustl.edu/pub/donna/US/UCDAVIS/cwn.zip
> >> > login pub
> >> > password download
> >> >
> >> > You'll need to adapt it to your data, but it will give you a head
> >> start.
> >> >
> >> > Donna
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Rosita Shishegar <
> >> r.shishe...@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I am a new Caret user and I am working on animal brain data, which
> >> are
> >> manually segmented and triangulated mesh of  cortical surface is already
> >> extracted and pre-processed.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I want to measure Sulcal Depth of theses brains and so I need to
> >> generate Cerebral Hull surface of them. Is there any way to compute the
> >> Cerebral Hull using Caret from cortical surface rather than the volume?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > >
> >> > > Rosita
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > caret-users mailing list
> >> > > caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
> >> > > http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > caret-users mailing list
> >> > caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
> >> > http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Rosita Shishegar
> >> > PhD Candidate
> >> > Neuroimaging Group
> >> > University of Melbourne
> >> > Parkville, VIC 3010
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > caret-users mailing list
> >> > caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
> >> > http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> caret-users mailing list
> >> caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
> >> http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rosita Shishegar
> > PhD Candidate
> > Neuroimaging Group
> > University of Melbourne
> > Parkville, VIC 3010
> > _______________________________________________
> > caret-users mailing list
> > caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
> > http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> caret-users mailing list
> caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
> http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users
>
>


-- 
Rosita Shishegar
PhD Candidate
Neuroimaging Group
University of Melbourne
Parkville, VIC 3010
_______________________________________________
caret-users mailing list
caret-users@brainvis.wustl.edu
http://brainvis.wustl.edu/mailman/listinfo/caret-users

Reply via email to