Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
Bulk precedence is normally what is keyed off of by the auto responders. On Mar 14, 2014 4:43 PM, "Paul B. Henson" wrote: > Every time I send a message to this list, I get dozens upon dozens of > automated responses from vacation messages and out of office responders. > This is almost the only list for which that happens. Is there some > configuration that could be set to make this stop? It is extremely annoying. > > I see some lists set the header X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All, whereas > others have Precedence: bulk, or some other mechanism to inform auto > responders not to respond. Nothing like that is available for this list? > > Ironically, my first submission of this message had a subject that > included the words out, of, and office, and it was rejected by the list > management software 8-/. However, the auto responses I'm talking about come > directly to me, not to the list. > > Thanks... > > -- > Paul B. Henson | (909) 979-6361 | http://www.csupomona.edu/~henson/ > Operating Systems and Network Analyst | hen...@csupomona.edu > California State Polytechnic University | Pomona CA 91768 > > > -- > You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: > richard.frov...@ndsu.edu > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user > > -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
> Is there some configuration that could be set to make this stop? Not for messages sent to your directly for what are hopefully obvious reasons. I have gmail filters to delete them. For a couple years I attempted to politely contact these people to let them know; of many handfuls of emails written I think I got a couple "Oh, thanks for letting me know." Clearly it was a waste of time. > It is extremely annoying. Agreed. M -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:22:43AM -0700, Marvin Addison wrote: > > Is there some configuration that could be set to make this stop? > > Not for messages sent to your directly for what are hopefully obvious > reasons. I have gmail filters to delete them. For a couple years I > attempted to politely contact these people to let them know; of many > handfuls of emails written I think I got a couple "Oh, thanks for > letting me know." Clearly it was a waste of time. Yeah, some people are oblivious . But this is the only list I'm subscribed to from which I receive such a barrage of autoresponses, and I can't imagine there are no oblivious people on the numerous other lists I'm a member of. There's no option with whatever list software in use to add a Precedence header or other indicator for autoresponders to key off of? Almost all my other lists have such headers, and I rarely receive autoresponse bombs from them. Thanks... -- Paul B. Henson | (909) 979-6361 | http://www.csupomona.edu/~henson/ Operating Systems and Network Analyst | hen...@csupomona.edu California State Polytechnic University | Pomona CA 91768 -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
RE: [cas-user] annoying responses
Marvin, could you plz share your filtering rules? I am looking at the list admin interface and I see we have an option to setup "match phrases" to reject messages. We could do this for all 3 of the cas lists. > -Original Message- > From: Marvin Addison [mailto:marvin.addi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:23 AM > To: cas-user@lists.jasig.org > Subject: Re: [cas-user] annoying responses > > > Is there some configuration that could be set to make this stop? > > Not for messages sent to your directly for what are hopefully obvious > reasons. I have gmail filters to delete them. For a couple years I attempted > to politely contact these people to let them know; of many handfuls of emails > written I think I got a couple "Oh, thanks for letting me know." Clearly it > was a waste of time. > > > It is extremely annoying. > > Agreed. > > M > > -- > You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: > mmoay...@unicon.net To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
> There's no option with whatever list software in use to add a Precedence > header or other indicator for autoresponders to key off of? Almost all > my other lists have such headers, and I rarely receive autoresponse > bombs from them. I'll forward the suggestion to the mailing list admins at UW Madison for consideration. Takes a few days to get to the right person but I'll follow up when I get a response. Thanks, M -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
RE: [cas-user] annoying responses
> From: Misagh Moayyed > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:00 AM > > Marvin, could you plz share your filtering rules? I am looking at the list > admin interface and I see we have an option to setup "match phrases" to > reject messages. We could do this for all 3 of the cas lists. That might help; however, most of the objectionable "not available" messages I see come directly to me, not through the list. -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
RE: [cas-user] annoying responses
> From: Marvin Addison > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:33 AM > > I'll forward the suggestion to the mailing list admins at UW Madison > for consideration. Takes a few days to get to the right person but > I'll follow up when I get a response. Great, thanks. Obviously it's no big thing in the overall scheme of things, but every little bit helps :). -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
> That might help; however, most of the objectionable "not available" messages > I see come directly to me, not through the list. I've worked with our mailing list admins to implement the suggestion you made. >From the WiscList folks: The header "X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All" has been added to each of the lists. Let me know how this works for you and we can make changes to other lists as you see fit. Please follow up with your impressions on efficacy. There's interest in adding this header to other Jasig lists if it helps. M -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
Test… (effectively to test if I get a barrage of auto responses) D. On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Marvin Addison wrote: >> That might help; however, most of the objectionable "not available" messages >> I see come directly to me, not through the list. > > I've worked with our mailing list admins to implement the suggestion you made. > > From the WiscList folks: > > The header "X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All" has been added to each of > the lists. Let me know how this works for you and we can make changes > to other lists as you see fit. > > Please follow up with your impressions on efficacy. There's interest > in adding this header to other Jasig lists if it helps. > > M > > -- > You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: > dkopyle...@unicon.net > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:14:01AM -0700, Marvin Addison wrote: > The header "X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All" has been added to each of > the lists. Let me know how this works for you and we can make changes > to other lists as you see fit. "has" or "will be"? I don't see it on any of the messages posted today. -- Paul B. Henson | (909) 979-6361 | http://www.csupomona.edu/~henson/ Operating Systems and Network Analyst | hen...@csupomona.edu California State Polytechnic University | Pomona CA 91768 -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
I saw it on the last couple of messages (including this one from you). On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:14:01AM -0700, Marvin Addison wrote: > > > The header "X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All" has been added to each of > > the lists. Let me know how this works for you and we can make changes > > to other lists as you see fit. > > "has" or "will be"? I don't see it on any of the messages posted today. > > > -- > Paul B. Henson | (909) 979-6361 | http://www.csupomona.edu/~henson/ > Operating Systems and Network Analyst | hen...@csupomona.edu > California State Polytechnic University | Pomona CA 91768 > > -- > You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: > mepst...@illinois.edu > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user > Milt Epstein Applications Developer Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) mepst...@illinois.edu -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
> "has" or "will be"? I don't see it on any of the messages posted today. I took their response at face value, which I read as "has been completed." The header appears in your previous post: Delivered-To: marvin.addi...@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.227.196 with SMTP id d46csp35390weq; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.6.9 with SMTP id w9mr4322506igw.1.1395427175288; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:39:35 -0700 (PDT) ... X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All M -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
So I received two "out of office" auto-responses when I posted this (one from the same person as Dmitriy reported). I haven't posted in a while, so I don't know whether that's an improvement. On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Milt Epstein wrote: > I saw it on the last couple of messages (including this one from you). > > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Paul B. Henson wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:14:01AM -0700, Marvin Addison wrote: > > > > > The header "X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All" has been added to each of > > > the lists. Let me know how this works for you and we can make changes > > > to other lists as you see fit. > > > > "has" or "will be"? I don't see it on any of the messages posted today. > > > > > > -- > > Paul B. Henson | (909) 979-6361 | http://www.csupomona.edu/~henson/ > > Operating Systems and Network Analyst | hen...@csupomona.edu > > California State Polytechnic University | Pomona CA 91768 > > > > -- > > You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: > > mepst...@illinois.edu > > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user > > > > Milt Epstein > Applications Developer > Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS) > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) > mepst...@illinois.edu > > -- > You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: > mepst...@illinois.edu > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user > Milt Epstein Applications Developer Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) mepst...@illinois.edu -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
Re: [cas-user] annoying responses
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:11:57PM -0700, Marvin Addison wrote: > I took their response at face value, which I read as "has been > completed." The header appears in your previous post: Hmm, something must be eating it in the path to me then, as it doesn't show up. Would have to be either the Ironport doing spam checking or MS exchange, the other gateways in the loop are linux/postfix and I don't think they'd arbitrarily discard a header. What made them pick X-Auto-Response-Suppress as opposed to Precedence? I know the latter doesn't get discarded. I'd be curious if other people who are either stuck using exchange or have an Ironport mail appliance are also losing this header, if a sizable fraction of users don't get the header passed through then their auto-responders will still misbehave... Received: from adler.unx.csupomona.edu (134.71.247.15) by iitexhub02.win.csupomona.edu (134.71.251.40) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.298.1; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:12:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])by adler.unx.csupomona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D0A54064 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adler.unx.csupomona.edu ([127.0.0.1])by localhost (adler.unx.csupomona.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iKH0Q6T3Kd-l for ;Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ironport01-1.csupomona.edu (ironport01-1.csupomona.edu [134.71.187.41])by adler.unx.csupomona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8033E54065 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burana.doit.wisc.edu (HELO lists.wisc.edu) ([128.104.22.195]) by ironport01-1.csupomona.edu with SMTP; 21 Mar 2014 12:12:23 -0700 Received: from smtp5.wiscmail.wisc.edu ([144.92.197.234]) by burana.doit.wisc.edu with SMTP (WiscList ListManager LINUX version 12.0); Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:12:03 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]) by smtp5.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTPS id <0n2s00272w01z...@smtp5.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for cas-u...@lists.wisc.edu (ORCPT cas-user@lists.jasig.org); Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:12:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a1so1933773wgh.32 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.227.196 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:11:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Marvin Addison To: "cas-user@lists.jasig.org" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:11:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [cas-user] annoying responses Thread-Topic: [cas-user] annoying responses Thread-Index: Ac9FOX13VArZ8hrDTnGKcpDEJSP8Yg== Message-ID: References: <20140321183859.gb5...@bender.csupomona.edu> In-Reply-To: <20140321183859.gb5...@bender.csupomona.edu> Reply-To: "cas-user@lists.jasig.org" Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: iitexhub02.win.csupomona.edu X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-spam-score: x-virus-scanned: amavisd-new at csupomona.edu dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type;bh=89F+CxS7qTGbtS6dBZ7sUXWOu0DGY3hOmgtKaFkGit8=; b=ynK3HRbHVyRYFFG4eTsslYQf0AWt+L80dbLLDEaa6NQ/kk7tmVzxN2tP2uCS0f6e6t 7s+/YuUVo8TAYhtk6JlER5JvXI+31NBcHFhidAmN+3ZpKPLQecxQIqg9aFxIjF84Maqc wuMEd8uQnghdRKusovDUvOYnGCJr5/4N2WCmflKz9k3+jaVAEFgqgvuPsXeLSObIeDta eEaV8qSDB65rVdkf/ME8jFfz9FDYQ+66/hdbuGUXzMpTk7EkuC9vbeCLWds4ySzS2PUL FWF4CJS9K+WO31sTMcVw05jJTACRTadvJuKpb3LKGwArm9absLCypdxNpG0gUqWE5SvF onCQ== x-ironport-anti-spam-filtered: true x-ironport-anti-spam-result: AqECAJyOLFOAaBbDnGdsb2JhbABZBoM7V6wDjyWISh4OAQEBAQEICwkJFCiCJgEBBAECOgMBDQ4eAwwGBQs7HgMBAQUJAwEFARwOCx0Eh0MBAxENoHKMX4MOgXqVIwoZJw1khiYRAQUMjEaCNYQiAQOOaocIaoFtjGiDWhgpRwOELQ x-spam-report: IsSpam=no, Probability=8%, Hits= HTML_00_01 0.05, HTML_00_10 0.05, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_500_599 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, DATE_TZ_NA 0, DKIM_SIGNATURE 0, WEBMAIL_SOURCE 0, __ANY_URI 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM 0, __FROM_GMAIL 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HELO_GMAIL 0, __IN_REP_TO 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_HTTP_RECEIVED 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1 0, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_2
RE: [cas-user] annoying responses
> From: Paul B. Henson > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:35 PM > >-Auto-Response-Suppress as opposed to Precedence? I know the latter > doesn't get discarded. I'd be curious if other people who are either > stuck using exchange or have an Ironport mail appliance are also losing > this header, if a sizable fraction of users don't get the header passed > through then their auto-responders will still misbehave... Huh, the only annoying auto response I got to this message was an exchange out of office message from a colleague who also works here 8-/. Maybe I will go bug our ironport and exchange administrators as to why one of those is eating this header . -- You are currently subscribed to cas-user@lists.jasig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/cas-user
