[casper] 10GB Ethernet

2014-02-10 Thread Madden, Timothy J.
Folks

How does the 10GB Ethernet work on the Roach boards? In most Xilinx 
applications, the 10GB ethernet is generated by Xilinx IP blocks that have an 
expensive license, on the order of $22k.

I have heard nothing about licensing fees for the 10GB Roach yellow block. Any 
ideas on this?

Tim Madden
Argonne Lab



Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet

2014-02-10 Thread Jason Manley
We have implemented our own 10GbE core. It's free open-source!

Jason 

On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:50, Madden, Timothy J.  wrote:

> Folks
> 
> How does the 10GB Ethernet work on the Roach boards? In most Xilinx 
> applications, the 10GB ethernet is generated by Xilinx IP blocks that have an 
> expensive license, on the order of $22k. 
> 
> I have heard nothing about licensing fees for the 10GB Roach yellow block. 
> Any ideas on this?
> 
> Tim Madden
> Argonne Lab
> 




Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet

2014-02-10 Thread Jason Manley
We were using Xilinx's free XAUI core for the PHY layer at one time... I'm not 
sure if that's still the case though because there was an effort to write our 
own at one time. It's been a while since I dug that deep into the toolflow. 

Jason

On 10 Feb 2014, at 17:12, Madden, Timothy J.  wrote:

> Implementing a 10GB core is no easy task, considering you must sync. many 
> serial transceivers together. Cool. Good job.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> From: Jason Manley [jman...@ska.ac.za]
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:09 AM
> To: Madden, Timothy J.
> Cc: Casper Lists
> Subject: Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet
> 
> We have implemented our own 10GbE core. It's free open-source!
> 
> Jason
> 
> On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:50, Madden, Timothy J.  wrote:
> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> How does the 10GB Ethernet work on the Roach boards? In most Xilinx 
>> applications, the 10GB ethernet is generated by Xilinx IP blocks that have 
>> an expensive license, on the order of $22k.
>> 
>> I have heard nothing about licensing fees for the 10GB Roach yellow block. 
>> Any ideas on this?
>> 
>> Tim Madden
>> Argonne Lab
>> 
> 




Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet

2014-02-10 Thread Madden, Timothy J.
Implementing a 10GB core is no easy task, considering you must sync. many 
serial transceivers together. Cool. Good job.

Tim


From: Jason Manley [jman...@ska.ac.za]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:09 AM
To: Madden, Timothy J.
Cc: Casper Lists
Subject: Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet

We have implemented our own 10GbE core. It's free open-source!

Jason

On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:50, Madden, Timothy J.  wrote:

> Folks
>
> How does the 10GB Ethernet work on the Roach boards? In most Xilinx 
> applications, the 10GB ethernet is generated by Xilinx IP blocks that have an 
> expensive license, on the order of $22k.
>
> I have heard nothing about licensing fees for the 10GB Roach yellow block. 
> Any ideas on this?
>
> Tim Madden
> Argonne Lab
>




Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet

2014-02-10 Thread Wesley New
Here are links to the 2 cores that we use.

https://github.com/ska-sa/mlib_devel/tree/master/xps_base/XPS_ROACH2_base/pcores/kat_ten_gb_eth_v1_00_a

https://github.com/ska-sa/mlib_devel/tree/master/xps_base/XPS_ROACH2_base/pcores/ten_gb_eth_v3_00_a

Wesley New
South African SKA Project
+2721 506 7365
www.ska.ac.za




On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Jason Manley  wrote:

> We were using Xilinx's free XAUI core for the PHY layer at one time... I'm
> not sure if that's still the case though because there was an effort to
> write our own at one time. It's been a while since I dug that deep into the
> toolflow.
>
> Jason
>
> On 10 Feb 2014, at 17:12, Madden, Timothy J.  wrote:
>
> > Implementing a 10GB core is no easy task, considering you must sync.
> many serial transceivers together. Cool. Good job.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > 
> > From: Jason Manley [jman...@ska.ac.za]
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:09 AM
> > To: Madden, Timothy J.
> > Cc: Casper Lists
> > Subject: Re: [casper] 10GB Ethernet
> >
> > We have implemented our own 10GbE core. It's free open-source!
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:50, Madden, Timothy J. 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Folks
> >>
> >> How does the 10GB Ethernet work on the Roach boards? In most Xilinx
> applications, the 10GB ethernet is generated by Xilinx IP blocks that have
> an expensive license, on the order of $22k.
> >>
> >> I have heard nothing about licensing fees for the 10GB Roach yellow
> block. Any ideas on this?
> >>
> >> Tim Madden
> >> Argonne Lab
> >>
> >
>
>
>


Re: [casper] casper Digest, Vol 75, Issue 8

2014-02-10 Thread Madden, Timothy J.


Roach in a balloon

Just an idea if some engineer wants alot of work to do. One could put a whole 
ROACH into a tiny circuit board these days using the new Xilinx ZYNQ chips. It 
is a multi-chip module w/ high end Xilinx and 2 ARM cores. It would of course 
require recompiling all the ROACH IP for use w/  ARM. But the resulting 
hardware would be small, and not use alot of power.  It would be a fun project.


Tim Madden
Argonne Lab


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Has anyone flown a ROACH board on a high altitude balloon?  Did it work?  Did 
you make any engineering changes for this challenging environment?

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Re: [casper] casper Digest, Vol 75, Issue 8

2014-02-10 Thread Dan Werthimer
hi tim,

there is a low power, low cost, roach like board under development,
called SNAP.  SNAP uses a kintex fpga,
has two 10Gbit ports,  some adc's and frequency synthesizer on board,
and one zdoc for external adc's.   info at:

https://casper.berkeley.edu/wiki/DAB-HERALD


best wishes,

dan





On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Madden, Timothy J. wrote:

>
>
> Roach in a balloon
>
> Just an idea if some engineer wants alot of work to do. One could put a
> whole ROACH into a tiny circuit board these days using the new Xilinx ZYNQ
> chips. It is a multi-chip module w/ high end Xilinx and 2 ARM cores. It
> would of course require recompiling all the ROACH IP for use w/  ARM. But
> the resulting hardware would be small, and not use alot of power.  It would
> be a fun project.
>
>
> Tim Madden
> Argonne Lab
>
> 
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