Re: [Catalyst] PathPart help
On 11/16/07, Jason Kohles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
>
> sub has_user : Chained('id|name|email') NoPathPart CaptureArgs(0) { }
> sub edit : Chained('has_user') PathPart('edit') Args(0) { }
>
That NoPathPart you already have with an empty PathPart('').
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RE: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
I wonder if something like this could be made to work with RRD (and not perform like ass) -D > -Original Message- > From: Mesdaq, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:19 AM > To: The elegant MVC web framework; The elegant MVC web framework > Subject: RE: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google > Finance, anybody done it? > > > http://www.fusioncharts.com/ > Super easy and pretty fancy. But not sure it can do exact > google finance > type stuff. > > Thanks, > -- > Ali Mesdaq > Security Researcher II > Websense Security Labs > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > -- > ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
Hello, On Friday 16 November 2007 20:04:35 Hartmaier Alexander wrote: > I do network monitoring graphs, great links guys! I'd like to promote plotkit http://www.liquidx.net/plotkit/ Which I haven't had the chance to use yet! regards -- ServiSMART Ricardo Sousa servimos o seu negócio tel: +351 96 298 0989 ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Steve Atkins wrote: Open flash chart. It's flash, but you don't have to write any flash. http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/ Funny you should mention this. I'm about to upload a distro to CPAN which provides a high-level API for generating data for OFC. The Perl API it comes with is garbage, and the data format is insane, but it makes pretty graphs so I decided to try to make a nice API for it. It's called Chart::OFC and I'll upload it later today, I think. -dave /*=== VegGuide.Orgwww.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===*/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
RE: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
I do network monitoring graphs, great links guys! Thanks! -Alex -Original Message- From: Mesdaq, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 8:19 PM To: The elegant MVC web framework; The elegant MVC web framework Subject: RE: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it? http://www.fusioncharts.com/ Super easy and pretty fancy. But not sure it can do exact google finance type stuff. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: Dustin Suchter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:08 AM To: The elegant MVC web framework Subject: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it? I know it is easy enough to generate graphics in Perl and Catalyst. I've also seen a few ways to do DHTML/AJAX style menus in Catalyst apps. I'd like to implement something like Google Finance's charts in a reporting system as part of a Catalyst app I'm building. Personally, I don't care if the back-end uses XML or not, but I would like to see dynamic graphical information like this chart: http://tinyurl.com/2n4kbt I don't mind heavy JavaScript usage but I'd like to keep my core language to just Perl, i.e. I don't want to have to write any Java or Flash. Anybody done this before? Anybody seen this done somewhere else before? -d ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ TO REPORT THIS AS SPAM, PLEASE CLICK THE FOLLOWING LINK: https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/Tor6huKAjdTOZyQh3pxe626olFd+YxExX78Qca3db !!BuD6YSup4eud+uJlWsRGWR4vaJT7Qgb+TSKJfjwai3eg0rMsRa!8NNdJxaXi+DXG6r7tF1 +l!XNRzFHVtL1hgGmH+Y79XS9yRgPhEG3wDDDz1I0fkPv5JJWudzCwMP7nqzBcd5IkwiLI0m cqMRYEonuTFzL7bmwKAAmygwhHxQJXLigAXOcvr ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* T-Systems Austria GesmbH Rennweg 97-99, 1030 Wien Handelsgericht Wien, FN 79340b *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* Notice: This e-mail contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and then delete this e-mail immediately. *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
I know it is easy enough to generate graphics in Perl and Catalyst. I've also seen a few ways to do DHTML/AJAX style menus in Catalyst apps. I'd like to implement something like Google Finance's charts in a reporting system as part of a Catalyst app I'm building. Personally, I don't care if the back-end uses XML or not, but I would like to see dynamic graphical information like this chart: http://tinyurl.com/2n4kbt I don't mind heavy JavaScript usage but I'd like to keep my core language to just Perl, i.e. I don't want to have to write any Java or Flash. Anybody done this before? Anybody seen this done somewhere else before? -d ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
RE: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
http://www.fusioncharts.com/ Super easy and pretty fancy. But not sure it can do exact google finance type stuff. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: Dustin Suchter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:08 AM To: The elegant MVC web framework Subject: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it? I know it is easy enough to generate graphics in Perl and Catalyst. I've also seen a few ways to do DHTML/AJAX style menus in Catalyst apps. I'd like to implement something like Google Finance's charts in a reporting system as part of a Catalyst app I'm building. Personally, I don't care if the back-end uses XML or not, but I would like to see dynamic graphical information like this chart: http://tinyurl.com/2n4kbt I don't mind heavy JavaScript usage but I'd like to keep my core language to just Perl, i.e. I don't want to have to write any Java or Flash. Anybody done this before? Anybody seen this done somewhere else before? -d ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ TO REPORT THIS AS SPAM, PLEASE CLICK THE FOLLOWING LINK: https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/Tor6huKAjdTOZyQh3pxe626olFd+YxExX78Qca3db !!BuD6YSup4eud+uJlWsRGWR4vaJT7Qgb+TSKJfjwai3eg0rMsRa!8NNdJxaXi+DXG6r7tF1 +l!XNRzFHVtL1hgGmH+Y79XS9yRgPhEG3wDDDz1I0fkPv5JJWudzCwMP7nqzBcd5IkwiLI0m cqMRYEonuTFzL7bmwKAAmygwhHxQJXLigAXOcvr ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] PathPart help
On Nov 16, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
Interesting twist. Reminds me of the RHOX stuff..
users/id/
users/name/
etc. Damnit. Now you have me thinking again. That setup is a great
reason to keep REST and web controllers seperated. :/
The only problem with it is that I would love to be able to do this,
but so far I haven't come up with a reasonable way to say 'chain from
any of these controllers'. i.e. it would be really nice to be able
to do this:
sub base : Chained('/') PathPart('users') CaptureArgs(0) { }
sub id : Chained('base') PathPart('id') CaptureArgs(1) { }
sub name : Chained('base') PathPart('name') CaptureArgs(1) { }
sub email : Chained('base') PathPart('email') CaptureArgs(1) { }
And then be able to base later controllers on any of these, something
like:
sub edit : Chained('id','name','email') PathPart('edit') Args(0) { }
I would also be nice to be able to have chain elements that didn't
correspond to URLs, so you could do something like this:
sub has_user : Chained('id|name|email') NoPathPart CaptureArgs(0) { }
sub edit : Chained('has_user') PathPart('edit') Args(0) { }
I keep planning to dig into the dispatcher and figure out how to
implement this (and multiple PathParts), but never enough TUITs...
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Re: [Catalyst] Fancy graphing -> like Google Finance, anybody done it?
On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Dustin Suchter wrote: I know it is easy enough to generate graphics in Perl and Catalyst. I've also seen a few ways to do DHTML/AJAX style menus in Catalyst apps. I'd like to implement something like Google Finance's charts in a reporting system as part of a Catalyst app I'm building. Personally, I don't care if the back-end uses XML or not, but I would like to see dynamic graphical information like this chart: http://tinyurl.com/2n4kbt I don't mind heavy JavaScript usage but I'd like to keep my core language to just Perl, i.e. I don't want to have to write any Java or Flash. Anybody done this before? Anybody seen this done somewhere else before? Open flash chart. It's flash, but you don't have to write any flash. http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/ WebFX also has a nice client-side chart widget, but I don't know whether it does anything interactive. http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/chart/demo.html Cheers, Steve ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Switching between different databases during a session
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:01:53PM -0800, Andrew Peebles wrote:
> Andrew Peebles wrote:
> >I've been searching and experimenting and have not found a solution ...
> >
> >I have multiple instances of a database (each in a separate sqlite db
> >file), same schema, different data. Each represents a snapshot of
> >something at a particular time. During a session, user wants switch
> >among these databases. I am trying to add a method to my Model
> >(Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema) that takes a new connection string,
> >and switches to that database ... all things otherwise remaining the
> >same. Seems relatively simple, but I just ain't getting it. Lots of
> >hints on the list, but nothing I can find that's helping.
> >
> >I've tried a lot of variants on something like this:
> >
> >package SMART::Model::SMARTDB;
> >
> >use strict;
> >use base 'Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema';
> >
> >my $dsn = $ENV{MY_DSN} ||=
> >'dbi:SQLite:/auto/project/tools/metadot/html/cgi/SMART/smart.db';
> >
> >__PACKAGE__->config(
> > schema_class => 'SMARTDB',
> > connect_info => [
> > $dsn,
> > '',
> > '',
> > {AutoCommit => 1},
> > ],
> >);
> >
> >sub switch {
> > my $self = shift;
> > my $dsn = shift;
> >
> > my $connect_info = [ @{$self->{connect_info}} ];
> > $$connect_info[0] = $dsn;
> >
> > my $schema = $self->clone();
> > $schema->connection(@$connect_info);
> > $self->schema($schema);
> >}
> >
> >1;
>
> Well ... in fact the code above works like a charm. I had a problem in
> another part of my environment that was making this look like it didn't
> work, but it does. Be nice to add this piece of code to one of the
> Cookbooks somewhere, maybe.
Maybe if you rewrote it to use Catalyst::Component::InstancePerContext it'd
make a good cookbook entry.
Your current approach is, frankly, scary - you're mutating a global object
without regard for what the next request is going to expect. I wouldn't let
this code anywhere near a production system.
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Re: [Catalyst] PathPart help
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:47:34AM -0800, Les Fletcher wrote: > I have question about setting up PathPart's and Chaining. I am trying > to set something that has the following look: > > /namespace/ => This lists out a list of objects > /namespace/ => displays detail information about the object with the > numeric id= > /namespace//edit => brings up a form to edit object with numeric id= > /namespace/create => brings up a form to create a new object > > When the Chained actions are printed out everything looks fine, but when > I goto "/namespace/create" it matches the "/namespace/" view > action. Needless to say, there isn't an object with the numeric id of > "create." Try upgrading to absolute latest Catalyst, I'm sure somebody patched this. If that doesn't help, I'd suggest using /namespace/id//edit which is what I always use anyway, in case I need to change to string ids later (slightly obsessive future-proofing but I've long since decided it's not paranoia and the requirements changes -are- out to get me :). -- Matt S Trout Need help with your Catalyst or DBIx::Class project? Technical Directorhttp://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Ltd. Want a managed development or deployment platform? http://chainsawblues.vox.com/http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/servers/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] PathPart help
Matt S Trout wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:47:34AM -0800, Les Fletcher wrote: >> I have question about setting up PathPart's and Chaining. I am trying >> to set something that has the following look: >> >> /namespace/ => This lists out a list of objects >> /namespace/ => displays detail information about the object with the >> numeric id= >> /namespace//edit => brings up a form to edit object with numeric id= >> /namespace/create => brings up a form to create a new object >> >> When the Chained actions are printed out everything looks fine, but when >> I goto "/namespace/create" it matches the "/namespace/" view >> action. Needless to say, there isn't an object with the numeric id of >> "create." > > Try upgrading to absolute latest Catalyst, I'm sure somebody patched this. > > If that doesn't help, I'd suggest using > > /namespace/id//edit Interesting twist. Reminds me of the RHOX stuff.. users/id/ users/name/ etc. Damnit. Now you have me thinking again. That setup is a great reason to keep REST and web controllers seperated. :/ -=Chris signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Storing DateTime in session causes warning
On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Tobias Kremer wrote: Tobias Kremer wrote: I'm storing a DateTime object in $c->session and I just realized that this is causing the following warning on every request: "Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at ../../lib/ Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 290." What version of DateTime::Locale do you guys have? 0.32 had a bug in it that didn't play nice with storable, so make sure you have the latest. I'm on v0.35, so unfortunately it's not the culprit :( Maybe not that specific bug, but I was unable to recreate the problem with 0.41... -- Jason Kohles, RHCA RHCDS RHCE [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.jasonkohles.com/ "A witty saying proves nothing." -- Voltaire ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] [ANNOUNCE] DBIx::Class 0.08008
Has jut hit CPAN. Expect it on your mirrors by tomorrow (if its not,
then pick a mirror that doesn't suck.)
Changes for this version duplicated below:
0.08008 2007-11-16 14:30:00
- Fixed join merging bug (test from Zby)
- When adding relationships, it will throw an exception if you
get the
foreign and self parts the wrong way round in the condition
- ResultSetColumn::func() now returns all results if called in list
context; this makes things like func('DISTINCT') work as expected
- Many-to-many relationships now warn if the utility methods would
clash
- InflateColumn::DateTime now accepts an extra parameter of timezone
to set timezone on the DT object (thanks Sergio Salvi)
- Added sqlt_deploy_hook to result classes so that indexes can be
added.
- Added startup checks to warn loudly if we appear to be running on
RedHat systems from perl-5.8.8-10 and up that have the
bless/overload
patch applied (badly) which causes 2x -> 100x performance penalty.
(Jon Schutz)
- ResultSource::reverse_relationship_info can distinguish between
sources using the same table
- Row::insert will now not fall over if passed duplicate related
objects
- Row::copy will not fall over if you have two relationships to the
same source with a unique constraint on it
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Re: [Catalyst] Storing DateTime in session causes warning
Quoting Jason Kohles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tobias Kremer wrote: > I'm storing a DateTime object in $c->session and I just realized > that > this is causing the following warning on every request: > > "Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at ../../lib/ > Storable.pm > (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 290." > > > >> What version of DateTime::Locale do you guys have? > >> 0.32 had a bug in it that didn't play nice with storable, so make > >> sure you > >> have the latest. > > > > I'm on v0.35, so unfortunately it's not the culprit :( > > > Maybe not that specific bug, but I was unable to recreate the problem > with 0.41... My DateTime version is 0.41, too. DateTime::Locale is a separate module with v0.35 being the latest version. --Tobias ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Storing DateTime in session causes warning
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 12:39 +0100, Tobias Kremer wrote: > > > Tobias Kremer wrote: > > > > I'm storing a DateTime object in $c->session and I just realized that > > > > this is causing the following warning on every request: > > > > > > > > "Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at ../../lib/Storable.pm > > > > (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 290." > > > What version of DateTime::Locale do you guys have? > > 0.32 had a bug in it that didn't play nice with storable, so make sure you > > have the latest. > > I'm on v0.35, so unfortunately it's not the culprit :( Just to report I'm feeling the same symptom on 0.35 too. Didn't try earlier versions. On a specific case, this warning is causing me an error when passing the DateTime object from the session to the database. Ruben ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] PathPart help
On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Les Fletcher wrote:
That one seems to use as explicit "view" at the end of the url
instead of having the identifier be the last piece of the url.
To have one without the 'view', just use an empty PathPart like
'default' below...
The one problem with your design though, is the trouble with being
able to support either an id or an argument (like 'create') as the
second item in the field. Because of the problems with that, I
usually use an explicit 'id' part to identify where the id starts,
like so...
sub base : Chained('/') PathPart('namespace') CaptureArgs(0) { }
sub id : Chained('base') PathPart('id') CaptureArgs(1) {
my ( $self, $c, $id ) = @_;
$c->stash->{ 'object' } $c->model( 'MyModel' )->find( $id );
}
sub edit : Chained('id') PathPart('edit') Args(0) { }
sub view : Chained('id') PathPart('view') Args(0) { }
sub default : Chained('id') PathPart('') Args(0) {
my ( $self, $c ) = @_;
$c->forward( 'view' );
}
sub create : Chained('base') PathPart('create') Args(0) { }
This way things that you can do without a specific object (like
'create', 'list', 'search') just get chained to 'base', while things
that require an object ('edit', 'view', 'delete') get chained to 'id',
which is responsible for finding and stashing the object (I also
usually put the access control stuff there to determine if the user is
allowed to view/edit/delete that object.)
Peter Karman wrote:
Les Fletcher wrote on 11/15/07 1:47 PM:
I have question about setting up PathPart's and Chaining. I am
trying
to set something that has the following look:
/namespace/ => This lists out a list of objects
/namespace/ => displays detail information about the object
with the
numeric id=
/namespace//edit => brings up a form to edit object with numeric
id=
/namespace/create => brings up a form to create a new object
This controller implements that exact API:
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/Catalyst-Controller-Rose-0.04/lib/Catalyst/Controller/Rose/CRUD.pm
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Re: [Catalyst] Storing DateTime in session causes warning
> > Tobias Kremer wrote: > > > I'm storing a DateTime object in $c->session and I just realized that > > > this is causing the following warning on every request: > > > > > > "Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at ../../lib/Storable.pm > > > (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 290." > What version of DateTime::Locale do you guys have? > 0.32 had a bug in it that didn't play nice with storable, so make sure you > have the latest. I'm on v0.35, so unfortunately it's not the culprit :( --Tobias ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
