Re: [Catalyst] Easiest Way To Update Fedora 10 to Catalyst-Runtime-5.71000

2009-02-06 Thread Robert L Cochran
I did indeed update HTTP::Body as well. Catalyst-Runtime wouldn't build
without it.

Bob


Chris Weyl wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Richard Siddall
> mailto:richard.sidd...@elirion.net>> wrote:
>
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
>
> My installation of Fedora 10 x86_64 is using Fedora-packaged Perl
> (perl-5.10.0-53.fc10.x86_64) and the perl-Catalyst-Runtime
> (perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015-1.fc10.noarch) and it doesn't
> seem to be
> maintained; there is no 5.71000 release as an RPM package. I
> have read
> the thread from last summer about Red Hat and CentOS releases
> not having
> real good Perl installations.
>
> I'd like to upgrade to 5.71000, using an RPM package if possible.
> (perhaps I can get the source RPM for 5.7015 and rebuild it
> for 5.71000
> with any new dependencies added in. I have an RPM build tree
> on this
> machine that I've been using to build stuff like avr-gcc.)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Looks like the maintainer of that RPM is
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cweyl according to
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=4381
>
> You might try contacting him/her and asking for an updated
> package. (Note the Amazon wishlist!)
>
>
> Heh.  I'd forgotten I link that there.  
>
> perl-Catalyst-Runtime is maintained; 5.71000 was just released on 19
> Jan and it takes time to look at it, make any spec updates, build test
> and push.  Even if I'd updated the package on the same day it was
> released it likely wouldn't have made it into F-10 at this point in
> the stable updates channel (especially given how focused people are on
> the F-11 alpha at the moment).  I do tend to issue updates in the
> "stable" releases as well (e.g. F-9, F-10 at this point), but other
> packagers may choose to limit their updates to rawhide (aka what will
> be the next release) unless specifically requested.  We also try to be
> pretty careful with upgrading complex packages like
> perl-Catalyst-Runtime, as breaking things in a stable release is,
> well, pretty embarassing :)
>
> One of the best ways to ask that a package be updated is to file a bug
> against it in bugzilla[1], asking that it be updated in a given
> release to a newer version...  This both ensures that it doesn't get
> lost in someone's inbox, and allows other Perl packagers some
> visibility to it.  Most packagers respond well to RFE bugs like this,
> and on the whole, the people who own Perl packages in Fedora tend to
> be pretty proactive.
>
> If you want to take a shot at updating them on your own, cpanspec or
> CPANPLUS::Dist::RPM/::Fedora are good places to look.  Fedora's CVS[2]
> also contains everything needed to build an updated package, and, like
> everyone else, we love patches too.  Especially as part of a bugzilla
> entry :)
>
> Right now, updating perl-Catalyst-Runtime is dependent on
> perl-HTTP-Body 1.05 making its way through the updates system.  Once
> that's in stable, I can update F-10 to the latest.
>
>-Chris
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com; directly at
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora, pick the
> package under the "component" listing.
> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_Fedora_CVS
> -- 
> Chris Weyl
> Ex astris, scientia
> 
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Re: [Catalyst] Easiest Way To Update Fedora 10 to Catalyst-Runtime-5.71000

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Weyl
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Richard Siddall <
richard.sidd...@elirion.net> wrote:

> Robert L Cochran wrote:
>
>> My installation of Fedora 10 x86_64 is using Fedora-packaged Perl
>> (perl-5.10.0-53.fc10.x86_64) and the perl-Catalyst-Runtime
>> (perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015-1.fc10.noarch) and it doesn't seem to be
>> maintained; there is no 5.71000 release as an RPM package. I have read
>> the thread from last summer about Red Hat and CentOS releases not having
>> real good Perl installations.
>>
>> I'd like to upgrade to 5.71000, using an RPM package if possible.
>> (perhaps I can get the source RPM for 5.7015 and rebuild it for 5.71000
>> with any new dependencies added in. I have an RPM build tree on this
>> machine that I've been using to build stuff like avr-gcc.)
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Looks like the maintainer of that RPM is
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cweyl according to
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=4381
>
> You might try contacting him/her and asking for an updated package. (Note
> the Amazon wishlist!)
>

Heh.  I'd forgotten I link that there.  

perl-Catalyst-Runtime is maintained; 5.71000 was just released on 19 Jan and
it takes time to look at it, make any spec updates, build test and push.
Even if I'd updated the package on the same day it was released it likely
wouldn't have made it into F-10 at this point in the stable updates channel
(especially given how focused people are on the F-11 alpha at the moment).
I do tend to issue updates in the "stable" releases as well (e.g. F-9, F-10
at this point), but other packagers may choose to limit their updates to
rawhide (aka what will be the next release) unless specifically requested.
We also try to be pretty careful with upgrading complex packages like
perl-Catalyst-Runtime, as breaking things in a stable release is, well,
pretty embarassing :)

One of the best ways to ask that a package be updated is to file a bug
against it in bugzilla[1], asking that it be updated in a given release to a
newer version...  This both ensures that it doesn't get lost in someone's
inbox, and allows other Perl packagers some visibility to it.  Most
packagers respond well to RFE bugs like this, and on the whole, the people
who own Perl packages in Fedora tend to be pretty proactive.

If you want to take a shot at updating them on your own, cpanspec or
CPANPLUS::Dist::RPM/::Fedora are good places to look.  Fedora's CVS[2] also
contains everything needed to build an updated package, and, like everyone
else, we love patches too.  Especially as part of a bugzilla entry :)

Right now, updating perl-Catalyst-Runtime is dependent on perl-HTTP-Body
1.05 making its way through the updates system.  Once that's in stable, I
can update F-10 to the latest.

   -Chris

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com; directly at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora, pick the package
under the "component" listing.
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_Fedora_CVS
-- 
Chris Weyl
Ex astris, scientia
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Re: [Catalyst] Easiest Way To Update Fedora 10 to Catalyst-Runtime-5.71000

2009-02-06 Thread Robert L Cochran
I think I just succeeded in packaging Catalyst::Runtime 5.7100, 
HTTP::Body 1.05,  and Catalyst::Runtime::Devel 1.10 all in Fedora RPM
packages. However I'm woefully lacking in my RPM building and Catalyst
developer skills, so it remains to be seen if I really did the job
correctly. I'll  contact the Fedora packager and offer to send the
packages  forward for evaluation. This person's spec file actually split
off some of the Catalyst::Runtime code into a separate RPM called
perl-Catalyst-Runtime-scripts.

If anyone wants my RPM packages, again with the understanding that I'm
new to this and could have done it wrong, please email me directly.  I
may not be able to provide the binaries until Sunday evening February 8,
Eastern Standard Time.

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA

Richard Siddall wrote:
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> My installation of Fedora 10 x86_64 is using Fedora-packaged Perl
>> (perl-5.10.0-53.fc10.x86_64) and the perl-Catalyst-Runtime
>> (perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015-1.fc10.noarch) and it doesn't seem to be
>> maintained; there is no 5.71000 release as an RPM package. I have read
>> the thread from last summer about Red Hat and CentOS releases not having
>> real good Perl installations.
>>
>> I'd like to upgrade to 5.71000, using an RPM package if possible.
>> (perhaps I can get the source RPM for 5.7015 and rebuild it for 5.71000
>> with any new dependencies added in. I have an RPM build tree on this
>> machine that I've been using to build stuff like avr-gcc.)
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> Looks like the maintainer of that RPM is
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cweyl according to
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=4381
>
> You might try contacting him/her and asking for an updated package.
> (Note the Amazon wishlist!)
>
> Failing that, using the .spec file from the last SRPM along with the
> tarball from the latest release would be a good first attempt.  If that
> doesn't produce good results, I'd try cpanspec
> (http://cpanspec.sourceforge.net/) as my understanding is that it's used
> extensively by the Fedora Perl packagers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Siddall
>
>
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Re: [Catalyst] Easiest Way To Update Fedora 10 to Catalyst-Runtime-5.71000

2009-02-06 Thread Richard Siddall

Robert L Cochran wrote:

My installation of Fedora 10 x86_64 is using Fedora-packaged Perl
(perl-5.10.0-53.fc10.x86_64) and the perl-Catalyst-Runtime
(perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015-1.fc10.noarch) and it doesn't seem to be
maintained; there is no 5.71000 release as an RPM package. I have read
the thread from last summer about Red Hat and CentOS releases not having
real good Perl installations.

I'd like to upgrade to 5.71000, using an RPM package if possible.
(perhaps I can get the source RPM for 5.7015 and rebuild it for 5.71000
with any new dependencies added in. I have an RPM build tree on this
machine that I've been using to build stuff like avr-gcc.)

Any suggestions?


Looks like the maintainer of that RPM is
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cweyl according to
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=4381

You might try contacting him/her and asking for an updated package. 
(Note the Amazon wishlist!)


Failing that, using the .spec file from the last SRPM along with the
tarball from the latest release would be a good first attempt.  If that
doesn't produce good results, I'd try cpanspec
(http://cpanspec.sourceforge.net/) as my understanding is that it's used
extensively by the Fedora Perl packagers.

Regards,

Richard Siddall


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[Catalyst] Easiest Way To Update Fedora 10 to Catalyst-Runtime-5.71000

2009-02-05 Thread Robert L Cochran
My installation of Fedora 10 x86_64 is using Fedora-packaged Perl
(perl-5.10.0-53.fc10.x86_64) and the perl-Catalyst-Runtime
(perl-Catalyst-Runtime-5.7015-1.fc10.noarch) and it doesn't seem to be
maintained; there is no 5.71000 release as an RPM package. I have read
the thread from last summer about Red Hat and CentOS releases not having
real good Perl installations.

I'd like to upgrade to 5.71000, using an RPM package if possible.
(perhaps I can get the source RPM for 5.7015 and rebuild it for 5.71000
with any new dependencies added in. I have an RPM build tree on this
machine that I've been using to build stuff like avr-gcc.)

Any suggestions?

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA


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