Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
Richard, Any thoughts on the best way to start getting the wiki under control? Some ideas I have heard ranged from editting the existing, to making a new copy of the wiki on a new tool, like under the github org for catalyst, and cleaning that up. Thoughts? John From: Richard Bychowski bychow...@gmail.com To: John Napiorkowski jjn1...@yahoo.com; The elegant MVC web framework catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:50 AM, John Napiorkowski wrote: snip As for the former, there's not a lot of people actively maintaining the site. We probably have more content there then we can rationally manage given our current contributorship. I do hope we can come together and find a way to have a smaller and more streamlined site, but right now I personally don't have time for it, and the time I do have I'd rather put into development of new capacities, such as the websockets and evented stuff we are doing for the next release, and so forth. That shouldn't stop someone else from stepping up though and I'd be happy to help out if such a person of group did. I'd like to help maintain the Catalyst wiki. - Richard Bychowski ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On 10 Jun 2013, at 15:50, John Napiorkowski wrote: As for the former, there's not a lot of people actively maintaining the site. I couldn't find anywhere on the site that invites people to join in with the maintenance. It could do with an obvious sign up page (even if it comes with a you must have your account approved by an admin proviso to combat spam). -- David Dorward http://dorward.co.uk/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
RE: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
And yes, I think most people using Catalyst are building custom website applications for companies, stuff that doesn't have easily broken out bits like generic CMSs and so forth. I think most people using Catalyst prefer to craft code to a solution rather than take an existing tool, like a CMS or generic blogging tool and bend it to fit a business case. I agree, and is exactly how I use Catalyst. I tailor all the applications to the companies needs on an Ad-Hoc basis. John - As you know I am happy to help if possible, and once I get my TortoiseGIT working with the catagits repository I will make any changes you wish me to. I don't have much time currently due to my OU studies, but if you think I can help, just holla! From: John Napiorkowski [mailto:jjn1...@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 June 2013 15:50 To: The elegant MVC web framework Subject: Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst I think there's two streams to this thread. Are there good existing open source projects that can serve as decent examples of how a good Catalyst application looks? Why is the website so out of date? As for the former, there's not a lot of people actively maintaining the site. We probably have more content there then we can rationally manage given our current contributorship. I do hope we can come together and find a way to have a smaller and more streamlined site, but right now I personally don't have time for it, and the time I do have I'd rather put into development of new capacities, such as the websockets and evented stuff we are doing for the next release, and so forth. That shouldn't stop someone else from stepping up though and I'd be happy to help out if such a person of group did. We have been trying to put together more examples of Catalyst code, and you if look at the catalyst github org (https://github.com/perl-catalyst/) things are starting to show up there. It will take time to get more quality there but I think it will happen. And yes, I think most people using Catalyst are building custom website applications for companies, stuff that doesn't have easily broken out bits like generic CMSs and so forth. I think most people using Catalyst prefer to craft code to a solution rather than take an existing tool, like a CMS or generic blogging tool and bend it to fit a business case. John From: Ferruccio Zamuner nonsolos...@diff.orgmailto:nonsolos...@diff.org To: catalyst@lists.scsys.co.ukmailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst On 06/08/13 12:02, Denny wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 16:16 -0700, bill hauck wrote: Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/catalystpoweredsoftware At least SheepWool and FileZ have broken links. Can anyone update them if they are still alive? Bye,\ferz ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.ukmailto:Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ This Email and any attachments contain confidential information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. If this Email has been misdirected, please notify the author as soon as possible. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on any of the information contained, and all copies must be deleted immediately. Whilst we take reasonable steps to try to identify any software viruses, any attachments to this e-mail may nevertheless contain viruses, which our anti-virus software has failed to identify. You should therefore carry out your own anti-virus checks before opening any documents. HomeLoan Partnership will not accept any liability for damage caused by computer viruses emanating from any attachment or other document supplied with this e-mail. HomeLoan Partnership reserves the right to monitor and archive all e-mail communications through its network. No representative or employee of HomeLoan Partnership has the authority to enter into any contract on behalf of HomeLoan Partnership by email. HomeLoan Partnership is a trading name of H L Partnership Limited, registered in England and Wales with Registration Number 5011722. Registered office: 26-34 Old Street, London, EC1V 9QQ. H L Partnership Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:50 AM, John Napiorkowski wrote: snip As for the former, there's not a lot of people actively maintaining the site. We probably have more content there then we can rationally manage given our current contributorship. I do hope we can come together and find a way to have a smaller and more streamlined site, but right now I personally don't have time for it, and the time I do have I'd rather put into development of new capacities, such as the websockets and evented stuff we are doing for the next release, and so forth. That shouldn't stop someone else from stepping up though and I'd be happy to help out if such a person of group did. I'd like to help maintain the Catalyst wiki. - Richard Bychowski ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On 06/08/13 12:02, Denny wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 16:16 -0700, bill hauck wrote: Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/catalystpoweredsoftware At least SheepWool and FileZ have broken links. Can anyone update them if they are still alive? Bye,\ferz ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 16:16 -0700, bill hauck wrote: Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/catalystpoweredsoftware ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Denny wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 16:16 -0700, bill hauck wrote: Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/catalystpoweredsoftware That's 18 links. Eight are dead links. Three have seen updates in 2012-2013, of those only two are version 1.0. Essentially two active, mature projects, from a community boasting 1000+ modules. It strikes me that perl or perhaps specifically Catalyst developers are building and releasing tools over applications. IMHO, the Catalyst community really needs more open source applications to generate outside interest. Am I alone in thinking this? I've been eagerly watching the ShinyCMS project. - Rick - http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/catalystpoweredsoftware Open Blog - OpenDNS dead link Typeface - Japanese wordpress link farm (apparently) Angerwhale - Link to a page with two lines of French and no code. Telemetry - Links to a page with a link to a Page not found. MojoMojo - Hurray! A real project, at v1.10. ShinyCMS - I'm optimistic on this project. Go, Denny! I suspect more developers will contribute once the project is closer to a 1.0 release? Website in a Box - Version 0.02 from Sept 2007. EasyCMS2 - Last update v 0.27 in 2007, no links to the actual code. SheepWool - Dead link. Bio::Catalyst - Link to pages with no reference to the code. Couldn't find it on metacpan either. Handel - version 1.00014 released in December 2011, no activity. Handel is a framework used by the Mango ecommerce app. Mango - version 0.01000_13 released in 2008. Parley - version 1.2.1, released 2009. Foorum - version 1.001, released in 2009. CiderWebmail - version 1.04, released in June2012. GalleryCatWeb - version 0.01, updated in 2010. App-CamelPKI - Broken link, but I was able to find it with manual MetaCPAN search. Version 0.07 from 2008. FileZ - Dead link. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
I especially like the list of spam (?) sites/blogs on http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/sitesrunningcatalyst which don't look very much like Catalyst. Rob On 8 Jun 2013, at 00:16, bill hauck wrote: Hi. Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? I saw the sites using Catalyst on http://www.catalystframework.org/#sites but I'm wondering if there's a list of applications. For instance, MojoMojo is a Catalyst-based web app, but I only know that because the catalystframework website uses it and links to MojoMojo's site, which details the Catalyst involvment. If there's no existing list I think it would be a great addition to the framework's wiki. This could help people use all Catalyst-based software, making maintenance easier as well as sticking with a single language and web framework concept. If there is a list maybe we can mirror it on the wiki. I'll add it if someone can point me to it. Thanks, bill ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On Sat, 2013-06-08 at 10:00 -0700, Richard Bychowski wrote: On Jun 8, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Denny wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 16:16 -0700, bill hauck wrote: Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/catalystpoweredsoftware That's 18 links. Eight are dead links. I didn't say it was a _good_ list. :-p It strikes me that perl or perhaps specifically Catalyst developers are building and releasing tools over applications. I think people are building plenty of applications inside commercial environments, but not many that are publicly released. People seem to use Catalyst to solve big and quite company-specific problems, rather than medium-sized generic problems. IMHO, the Catalyst community really needs more open source applications to generate outside interest. Am I alone in thinking this? I've been eagerly watching the ShinyCMS project. Thanks :) Feel free to join in! I suspect more developers will contribute once the project is closer to a 1.0 release? That would be nice. I'm not sure that Perl developers are particularly scared of 0.x releases though... I feel it's more a lack of interest in solving those medium-sized generic problems. I have a designer pledged to build me a set of front-end templates for the demo site, which I think is one thing that's essential before I bundle up a 0.9 pre-release for people to look at. The other thing I wanted to do was finish the shop order processing stuff, but the client paying some of the development costs for that has pulled out, which has slowed things down considerably. Once I get those two things done, I'll beg and possibly even bribe a few people to look over the code and docs and maybe do some QA, and then hopefully it will be ready for a shiny 1.0 version number. :) Regards, Denny ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
On 09/06/2013, at 4:33, Denny 2...@denny.me wrote: I think people are building plenty of applications inside commercial environments, but not many that are publicly released. People seem to use Catalyst to solve big and quite company-specific problems, rather than medium-sized generic problems. Yes. This is absolutely correct. Catalyst apps service hundreds of millions of end users. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] List of Applications using Catalyst
Hi. Does anyone know of a list of applications that are using Catalyst? I saw the sites using Catalyst on http://www.catalystframework.org/#sites but I'm wondering if there's a list of applications. For instance, MojoMojo is a Catalyst-based web app, but I only know that because the catalystframework website uses it and links to MojoMojo's site, which details the Catalyst involvment. If there's no existing list I think it would be a great addition to the framework's wiki. This could help people use all Catalyst-based software, making maintenance easier as well as sticking with a single language and web framework concept. If there is a list maybe we can mirror it on the wiki. I'll add it if someone can point me to it. Thanks, bill___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
