Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:04:38PM +0700, Ben van Staveren wrote: > Hi Tom, > >>*Cough* remind me not to answer emails late at night :D > >> > >>Okay I've got the following: > >> > >>Catalyst 5.80022 > >>Static::Simple 0.29 > >>Session 0.27 > >>Session::Store::DBIC 0.11 > > > >Thanks. I'll try to look into this at the NPW hackathon this weekend. > > > Awesome. I'm trying to find a little spare time at $job to take a look > at it as well but I'm pretty new to Catalyst guts (and Moose), so not > really making much progress on fixing the problem. Learning a lot though > so it's all good :D I'm wondering what's creating the session in that action at all. A static file serve shouldn't have to bother doing it. Were I you I'd add some Carp::cluck calls or something in $c->session and friends (you're allowed to crack open your own copy of the Session.pm file - just copy it into lib/Catalyst/Plugin in your checkout first :) Doing that should show you where they're called from, which should tell us what inside the session code is getting hit during a static request and why that's happening. My first guess would be "the code to auto-extend session expiry is being triggered". But I've not dug into the code properly to see if that's it yet. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our Catalyst commercial support, training and consultancy packages could help your team. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 08:10:29AM +0800, Moritz Onken wrote: > Still the same behaviour. See my reply downthread for how I'd recommend trying to diagnose this. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our Catalyst commercial support, training and consultancy packages could help your team. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
Hi Tom, *Cough* remind me not to answer emails late at night :D Okay I've got the following: Catalyst 5.80022 Static::Simple 0.29 Session 0.27 Session::Store::DBIC 0.11 Thanks. I'll try to look into this at the NPW hackathon this weekend. Awesome. I'm trying to find a little spare time at $job to take a look at it as well but I'm pretty new to Catalyst guts (and Moose), so not really making much progress on fixing the problem. Learning a lot though so it's all good :D -- Ben van Staveren phone: +62 81 70777529 email: benvanstave...@gmail.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
On 29 Apr 2010, at 02:50, Ben van Staveren wrote: Which is great. But a lot of users leave Static::Simple loaded, so while it's not going to bother you it -will- bother them. So, in the name of paying karma forwards, any chance I could have the versions anyway please? *Cough* remind me not to answer emails late at night :D Okay I've got the following: Catalyst 5.80022 Static::Simple 0.29 Session 0.27 Session::Store::DBIC 0.11 Thanks. I'll try to look into this at the NPW hackathon this weekend. Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
Which is great. But a lot of users leave Static::Simple loaded, so while it's not going to bother you it -will- bother them. So, in the name of paying karma forwards, any chance I could have the versions anyway please? *Cough* remind me not to answer emails late at night :D Okay I've got the following: Catalyst 5.80022 Static::Simple 0.29 Session 0.27 Session::Store::DBIC 0.11 -- Ben van Staveren phone: +62 81 70777529 email: benvanstave...@gmail.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
>> > > Right after ConfigLoader ... shouldn't do that. > > Honestly, the session shouldn't be UPDATEd at all in that case. > >> Like I said though, for me it's not a big deal that this happens, now >> that I know what causes it, I'm not worried about this showing up on my >> app_server.pl output during development. For production DBIC_TRACE is >> forced off and Static::Simple is never loaded :) > > Which is great. But a lot of users leave Static::Simple loaded, so while > it's not going to bother you it -will- bother them. > > So, in the name of paying karma forwards, any chance I could have the > versions anyway please? I updated all Plugins to the latest version using cpan> upgrade /^Catalyst/ Still the same behaviour. cheers, mo ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
>> > > Right after ConfigLoader ... shouldn't do that. > > Honestly, the session shouldn't be UPDATEd at all in that case. > >> Like I said though, for me it's not a big deal that this happens, now >> that I know what causes it, I'm not worried about this showing up on my >> app_server.pl output during development. For production DBIC_TRACE is >> forced off and Static::Simple is never loaded :) > > Which is great. But a lot of users leave Static::Simple loaded, so while > it's not going to bother you it -will- bother them. > > So, in the name of paying karma forwards, any chance I could have the > versions anyway please? I updated all Plugins to the latest version using cpan> upgrade /^Catalyst/ Still the same behaviour. cheers, mo ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:58:58PM +0700, Ben van Staveren wrote: > Hi Matt, > > >Check your plugin order; this doesn't normally happen because > >Static::Simple > >bypasses the loading of the session. If you've tried it both before and > >after you load your session plugins, come back to us with the versions of > >all the plugins you're loading and we'll dig further. > > > Current load order: > > use Catalyst qw/-Debug >ConfigLoader >Unicode >Compress >Authentication >Authorization::Roles >Session >Session::State::Cookie >Session::Store::DBIC >Static::Simple/; > > This makes the "weird" happen. If I move Static::Simple to right after > ConfigLoader, it still happens. Seeing as it happens when things go on > with Session (e.g. Session updating itself for expiry time), it seems > that plugin load order has no effect, unless there's some weirdness > happening with another of those modules. Right after ConfigLoader ... shouldn't do that. Honestly, the session shouldn't be UPDATEd at all in that case. > Like I said though, for me it's not a big deal that this happens, now > that I know what causes it, I'm not worried about this showing up on my > app_server.pl output during development. For production DBIC_TRACE is > forced off and Static::Simple is never loaded :) Which is great. But a lot of users leave Static::Simple loaded, so while it's not going to bother you it -will- bother them. So, in the name of paying karma forwards, any chance I could have the versions anyway please? -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our Catalyst commercial support, training and consultancy packages could help your team. ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
Hi Matt, Check your plugin order; this doesn't normally happen because Static::Simple bypasses the loading of the session. If you've tried it both before and after you load your session plugins, come back to us with the versions of all the plugins you're loading and we'll dig further. Current load order: use Catalyst qw/-Debug ConfigLoader Unicode Compress Authentication Authorization::Roles Session Session::State::Cookie Session::Store::DBIC Static::Simple/; This makes the "weird" happen. If I move Static::Simple to right after ConfigLoader, it still happens. Seeing as it happens when things go on with Session (e.g. Session updating itself for expiry time), it seems that plugin load order has no effect, unless there's some weirdness happening with another of those modules. Like I said though, for me it's not a big deal that this happens, now that I know what causes it, I'm not worried about this showing up on my app_server.pl output during development. For production DBIC_TRACE is forced off and Static::Simple is never loaded :) Thanks though :D -- Ben van Staveren phone: +62 81 70777529 email: benvanstave...@gmail.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 05:07:36PM +0700, Ben van Staveren wrote: > Hi Moritz, > > Yeah I just figured that one out - but that's new, never saw it do this > before to be honest - it's not a big deal actually since in production > Static::Simple isn't used and I let lighttpd take care of serving static > files, but in testing it's a bit disconcerting to see it crop up all of > a sudden :) Check your plugin order; this doesn't normally happen because Static::Simple bypasses the loading of the session. If you've tried it both before and after you load your session plugins, come back to us with the versions of all the plugins you're loading and we'll dig further. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
Hi Moritz, Yeah I just figured that one out - but that's new, never saw it do this before to be honest - it's not a big deal actually since in production Static::Simple isn't used and I let lighttpd take care of serving static files, but in testing it's a bit disconcerting to see it crop up all of a sudden :) Thanks! :D Moritz Onken wrote: I had the same problem. I boiled it down to Static::Simple. Each request to a static resource issued a session update. In a recent release of cat the handling of requests seemed to have changed. Try downgrading to 5.80018 which fixed it for me (which is not a good solution, but I have no time right know to fix it in catalyst or write a test). On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:42:21 +0700, Ben van Staveren wrote: Hi folks, Recently after upgrading all of Catalyst, I'm witnessing some weird behaviour in some apps. I'm using Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC to store my sessions, and when I have DBIC_TRACE going, I see this: BEGIN WORK SELECT me.id, me.session_data, me.expires FROM session me WHERE ( me.id = ? ): 'session:fe3baeddb6ec2d3a14b07651a8792c7b85df9722' COMMIT UPDATE session SET expires = ? WHERE ( id = ? ): '1272443848', 'session:fe3baeddb6ec2d3a14b07651a8792c7b85df9722 Not once per request, but up to 50 times in a single request. Is this something wrong in my code or is C::P::S::S::DBIC going nuts? ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Ben van Staveren phone: +62 81 70777529 email: benvanstave...@gmail.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
I had the same problem. I boiled it down to Static::Simple. Each request to a static resource issued a session update. In a recent release of cat the handling of requests seemed to have changed. Try downgrading to 5.80018 which fixed it for me (which is not a good solution, but I have no time right know to fix it in catalyst or write a test). On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:42:21 +0700, Ben van Staveren wrote: > Hi folks, > > Recently after upgrading all of Catalyst, I'm witnessing some weird > behaviour in some apps. I'm using Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC > to store my sessions, and when I have DBIC_TRACE going, I see this: > > BEGIN WORK > SELECT me.id, me.session_data, me.expires FROM session me WHERE ( me.id > = ? ): 'session:fe3baeddb6ec2d3a14b07651a8792c7b85df9722' > COMMIT > UPDATE session SET expires = ? WHERE ( id = ? ): '1272443848', > 'session:fe3baeddb6ec2d3a14b07651a8792c7b85df9722 > > Not once per request, but up to 50 times in a single request. Is this > something wrong in my code or is C::P::S::S::DBIC going nuts? ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Oddness with Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC
Hi folks, Recently after upgrading all of Catalyst, I'm witnessing some weird behaviour in some apps. I'm using Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC to store my sessions, and when I have DBIC_TRACE going, I see this: BEGIN WORK SELECT me.id, me.session_data, me.expires FROM session me WHERE ( me.id = ? ): 'session:fe3baeddb6ec2d3a14b07651a8792c7b85df9722' COMMIT UPDATE session SET expires = ? WHERE ( id = ? ): '1272443848', 'session:fe3baeddb6ec2d3a14b07651a8792c7b85df9722 Not once per request, but up to 50 times in a single request. Is this something wrong in my code or is C::P::S::S::DBIC going nuts? -- Ben van Staveren phone: +62 81 70777529 email: benvanstave...@gmail.com ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
