[cayugabirds-l] redwings cowbird grackle
This morning at our feeders we have 25 RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS, 1 BROWN-HEADED COWBIRD, and 1 GRACKLE. Stay tuned for possible exciting updates. S. S. Fast Brooktondale -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Yesterday at the Game Farm
Nancy Ostman and I went to look at the Red-tailed Hawks at Cornell's game farm yesterday from 13:15-13:45 (NW 29 G 37, 29 degrees F, clear). I was curious to see how the winds would affect the hawk count and behavior. An approaching Arctic cold front made it extremely windy as temperatures fell rapidly. There were about 20 RTHA, down from 51 yesterday, with most flying and soaring instead of perching, as usual, on the poles and fences around the pheasant pens. The air was alive with RTHA and countless American Crows, with at least a thousand starlings wheeling and alighting in the pens. Along Stevenson Road, halfway between the pheasant pens and the compost piles, a vast number of gulls and crows sailed on the wind, joined for a brief time by two Turkey Vultures. Numerous small chevrons of Canada Geese flew by, or rather, were blown by, as we watched the aerial mêlée. Closer to the compost piles, gull and crow numbers tripled in the air and on the fields, with crows also perched in the nearby trees. While we saw no unusual species, it was exciting to be amidst such a vast number of black and white birds being whipped about in all directions. Candace Cornell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
This may be a naive question, but why don’t the large number of Red-tailed Hawks (15-60+), which keep vigil at the Ring-necked Pheasant pens on Game Farm Road in Ithaca, decimate the pheasant population? According to the BNA, Ring-necked Pheasant is one of their preferred foods and I've seen them eating what looks pheasant entrails within the pens. Candace Cornell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
Hi Folks, I have talked with the Game Farm manager. He told me that they try to release about 130,000 pheasant each fall, that the captive flock starts in fall at about 35,000, and that they loose about 7000 to predation every year. Since the potential for the weight of snow and ice on the screen prohibit the use of screen on top for about 200 days of the year, that means about 35 eaten per day. This winter the count may be higher. There is the mega-number of hawks now, but when the first remove the over-the-top screen in early fall there aren't as many predators around, and before they but it back in spring, there aren't as many hawks then either. So, even though there may be more than 35 eaten per day now, an average of 35 per day for the entire period of no-screen seems reasonable to me. I must admit that I get some satisfaction from seeking hunting license dollars going to feed red-tails. After all, we birders loose the pleasure of seeing so many things due to hunting, it is nice to have some turn around. I wonder how many owls eat there? I wonder if juvenile red-tails have a lower efficiency of capture than the adults? Cheers, John On 3/3/2011 12:22 PM, Candace Cornell wrote: This may be a naive question, but why don’t the large number of Red-tailed Hawks (15-60+), which keep vigil at the Ring-necked Pheasant pens on Game Farm Road in Ithaca, decimate the pheasant population? According to the BNA, Ring-necked Pheasant is one of their preferred foods and I've seen them eating what looks pheasant entrails within the pens. Candace Cornell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --attachment: confer.vcf
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
Well, I was thinking Red tailed hawks were organic feeders, they want free ranging pheasants. Anyways, how come pheasants are preferred food? These are non native birds. And are there so many pheasant farms all around US? May be the particular study that found pheasant are preferred food, happen to have been conducted in Ithaca around game farm and does not reflect true preferences of RTHA Just another query. Meena Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Phone 607-254-1258 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ http://haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdfhttp://www.geocities.com/asiootusloe/http:/www.geocities.com/asiootusloe/mothsofithaca.htmlhttp:/haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf From: bounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Confer Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:05 PM To: Candace Cornell Cc: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Hi Folks, I have talked with the Game Farm manager. He told me that they try to release about 130,000 pheasant each fall, that the captive flock starts in fall at about 35,000, and that they loose about 7000 to predation every year. Since the potential for the weight of snow and ice on the screen prohibit the use of screen on top for about 200 days of the year, that means about 35 eaten per day. This winter the count may be higher. There is the mega-number of hawks now, but when the first remove the over-the-top screen in early fall there aren't as many predators around, and before they but it back in spring, there aren't as many hawks then either. So, even though there may be more than 35 eaten per day now, an average of 35 per day for the entire period of no-screen seems reasonable to me. I must admit that I get some satisfaction from seeking hunting license dollars going to feed red-tails. After all, we birders loose the pleasure of seeing so many things due to hunting, it is nice to have some turn around. I wonder how many owls eat there? I wonder if juvenile red-tails have a lower efficiency of capture than the adults? Cheers, John On 3/3/2011 12:22 PM, Candace Cornell wrote: This may be a naive question, but why don't the large number of Red-tailed Hawks (15-60+), which keep vigil at the Ring-necked Pheasant pens on Game Farm Road in Ithaca, decimate the pheasant population? According to the BNA, Ring-necked Pheasant is one of their preferred foods and I've seen them eating what looks pheasant entrails within the pens. Candace Cornell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
HI Folks, The only state-owned pheasant farm left in NY is our own on Game Farm Rd. The immediate factor that led to the close of the next to last game farm was budget concerns, (although there may well have been environmental reasons to close them.) Our pheasant farm was scheduled for closure, but the threat of declining hunting licenses may have kept it open. By the way, until about 20 years ago the game farm controlled for hawk and owl predation by putting leg traps on the poles and then killing the captured raptors, which would have died of a broken leg, anyway. By the way, did you know that Professor Allen wrote a small brochure (It's in the archives for the Cayuga Bird Club at Uris Library) about How to Kill the Bad Hawks (which meant those that take chickens and birds we like) without killing the good hawks that take mice and rats. About 15 years ago, Profesor Whittaker, the famous ecologist of the widely-used text, called up the Hawk Barn, while it was still in Ithaca, to say that they should come and capture the Cooper's Hawk feeding at his bird feeder or he would take care of the hawk himself. Yeah, values do change. Cheers, John Confer On 3/3/2011 1:47 PM, Meena Haribal wrote: Well, I was thinking Red tailed hawks were organic feeders, they want free ranging pheasants. Anyways, how come pheasants are preferred food? These are non native birds. And are there so many pheasant farms all around US? May be the particular study that found pheasant are preferred food, happen to have been conducted in Ithaca around game farm and does not reflect true preferences of RTHA Just another query. Meena Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Phone 607-254-1258 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ http://haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf http://www.geocities.com/asiootusloe/http:/www.geocities.com/asiootusloe/mothsofithaca.htmlhttp:/haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf *From:*bounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Confer *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:05 PM *To:* Candace Cornell *Cc:* cayugabirds-l *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Hi Folks, I have talked with the Game Farm manager. He told me that they try to release about 130,000 pheasant each fall, that the captive flock starts in fall at about 35,000, and that they loose about 7000 to predation every year. Since the potential for the weight of snow and ice on the screen prohibit the use of screen on top for about 200 days of the year, that means about 35 eaten per day. This winter the count may be higher. There is the mega-number of hawks now, but when the first remove the over-the-top screen in early fall there aren't as many predators around, and before they but it back in spring, there aren't as many hawks then either. So, even though there may be more than 35 eaten per day now, an average of 35 per day for the entire period of no-screen seems reasonable to me. I must admit that I get some satisfaction from seeking hunting license dollars going to feed red-tails. After all, we birders loose the pleasure of seeing so many things due to hunting, it is nice to have some turn around. I wonder how many owls eat there? I wonder if juvenile red-tails have a lower efficiency of capture than the adults? Cheers, John On 3/3/2011 12:22 PM, Candace Cornell wrote: This may be a naive question, but why don't the large number of Red-tailed Hawks (15-60+), which keep vigil at the Ring-necked Pheasant pens on Game Farm Road in Ithaca, decimate the pheasant population? According to the BNA, Ring-necked Pheasant is one of their preferred foods and I've seen them eating what looks pheasant entrails within the pens. Candace Cornell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --attachment: confer.vcf
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
It seems like the Game Farm must have been in violation (unless they were permitted otherwise) of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, as well as the esteemed professor: Establishment of a Federal prohibition, unless permitted by regulations, to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill, attempt to take, capture or kill, possess, offer for sale, sell, offer to purchase, purchase, deliver for shipment, ship, cause to be shipped, deliver for transportation, transport, cause to be transported, carry, or cause to be carried by any means whatever, receive for shipment, transportation or carriage, or export, at any time, or in any manner, any migratory bird, included in the terms of this Convention . . . for the protection of migratory birds . . . or any part, nest, or egg of any such bird. (16 U.S.C. 703) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:56 PM, John Confer con...@ithaca.edu wrote: HI Folks, The only state-owned pheasant farm left in NY is our own on Game Farm Rd. The immediate factor that led to the close of the next to last game farm was budget concerns, (although there may well have been environmental reasons to close them.) Our pheasant farm was scheduled for closure, but the threat of declining hunting licenses may have kept it open. By the way, until about 20 years ago the game farm controlled for hawk and owl predation by putting leg traps on the poles and then killing the captured raptors, which would have died of a broken leg, anyway. By the way, did you know that Professor Allen wrote a small brochure (It's in the archives for the Cayuga Bird Club at Uris Library) about How to Kill the Bad Hawks (which meant those that take chickens and birds we like) without killing the good hawks that take mice and rats. About 15 years ago, Profesor Whittaker, the famous ecologist of the widely-used text, called up the Hawk Barn, while it was still in Ithaca, to say that they should come and capture the Cooper's Hawk feeding at his bird feeder or he would take care of the hawk himself. Yeah, values do change. Cheers, John Confer On 3/3/2011 1:47 PM, Meena Haribal wrote: Well, I was thinking Red tailed hawks were “organic feeders”, they want free ranging pheasants. Anyways, how come pheasants are preferred food? These are non native birds. And are there so many pheasant farms all around US? May be the particular study that found pheasant are preferred food, happen to have been conducted in Ithaca around game farm and does not reflect true preferences of RTHA Just another query. Meena Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Phone 607-254-1258 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ http://haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdfhttp://www.geocities.com/asiootusloe/http:/www.geocities.com/asiootusloe/mothsofithaca.htmlhttp:/haribal.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/wildwest+trip+August+2007+.pdf *From:* bounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edu [ mailto:bounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edubounce-8671320-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Confer *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:05 PM *To:* Candace Cornell *Cc:* cayugabirds-l *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Hi Folks, I have talked with the Game Farm manager. He told me that they try to release about 130,000 pheasant each fall, that the captive flock starts in fall at about 35,000, and that they loose about 7000 to predation every year. Since the potential for the weight of snow and ice on the screen prohibit the use of screen on top for about 200 days of the year, that means about 35 eaten per day. This winter the count may be higher. There is the mega-number of hawks now, but when the first remove the over-the-top screen in early fall there aren't as many predators around, and before they but it back in spring, there aren't as many hawks then either. So, even though there may be more than 35 eaten per day now, an average of 35 per day for the entire period of no-screen seems reasonable to me. I must admit that I get some satisfaction from seeking hunting license dollars going to feed red-tails. After all, we birders loose the pleasure of seeing so many things due to hunting, it is nice to have some turn around. I wonder how many owls eat there? I wonder if juvenile red-tails have a lower efficiency of capture than the adults? Cheers, John On 3/3/2011 12:22 PM, Candace Cornell wrote: This may be a naive question, but why don’t the large number of Red-tailed Hawks (15-60+), which keep vigil at the Ring-necked Pheasant pens on Game Farm Road in Ithaca, decimate the pheasant population? According to the BNA, Ring-necked Pheasant is one of their preferred foods and I've seen them eating what looks pheasant entrails within the pens. Candace Cornell -- asher -Never play it the same way once. -- Cayugabirds-L List
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
Yes, the latter. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Bill Evans wrev...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- asher -Never play it the same way once. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people who work there have told me that they often see them catch them. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM To: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
Yes. I totally agree Chris. And what a totally unnatural environment and conditions, with those blinders on and totally exposed to all inclement weather. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: Wouldn't these Red-tailed Hawks primarily be targeting the weak or sick; the ones that might die off (in this unnatural environment) anyway? -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -Original Message- From: bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:19 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people who work there have told me that they often see them catch them. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM To: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
What I guess we don't know is what proportion of their diet it pheasant versus rodent. - Original Message - From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com To: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu Cc: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Yes. I totally agree Chris. And what a totally unnatural environment and conditions, with those blinders on and totally exposed to all inclement weather. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: Wouldn't these Red-tailed Hawks primarily be targeting the weak or sick; the ones that might die off (in this unnatural environment) anyway? -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -Original Message- From: bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:19 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people who work there have told me that they often see them catch them. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM To: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
True. I know those birds catch a lot of mice, etc., that are attracted there by the grain. And Cooper's Hawks catch pigeons, starlings, and House Sparrows there, which are also attracted by the grain. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:23 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? What I guess we don't know is what proportion of their diet it pheasant versus rodent. - Original Message - From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com To: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu Cc: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Yes. I totally agree Chris. And what a totally unnatural environment and conditions, with those blinders on and totally exposed to all inclement weather. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: Wouldn't these Red-tailed Hawks primarily be targeting the weak or sick; the ones that might die off (in this unnatural environment) anyway? -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -Original Message- From: bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:19 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people who work there have told me that they often see them catch them. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM To: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
I don't think I've ever seen one of those hawks with a mouse or rat. Lots of pheasants, though. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-8672579-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8672579-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:29 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? True. I know those birds catch a lot of mice, etc., that are attracted there by the grain. And Cooper's Hawks catch pigeons, starlings, and House Sparrows there, which are also attracted by the grain. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:23 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? What I guess we don't know is what proportion of their diet it pheasant versus rodent. - Original Message - From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com To: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu Cc: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Yes. I totally agree Chris. And what a totally unnatural environment and conditions, with those blinders on and totally exposed to all inclement weather. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: Wouldn't these Red-tailed Hawks primarily be targeting the weak or sick; the ones that might die off (in this unnatural environment) anyway? -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -Original Message- From: bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:19 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people who work there have told me that they often see them catch them. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM To: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1)
[cayugabirds-l] Bald Eagle on Game Farm Road
About half and hour ago, Gaelyn Ong and I saw an adult Bald Eagle flying over Game Farm Road, near the East Hill rec trail. The crows in the area were certainly not very happy. Sarah MacLean -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
I just want to add this, which may cause more controversy or be disapproved by Chris, but I have heard there is close to a 99% mortality rate within a month for these pheasants when they are released and those blinders are not removed (at least according to list serve info from last year) and I can't imagine a one of us that would want to live in their circumstances, out in all weather, with blinders on, in incredibly close quarters and being stalked by around 60 hungry RTH who have been suffering themselves with snow covered fields for two months. But I will choose to take John Confer's perspective for now and be glad that the RTH can find some sustenance. Linda On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Kevin J. McGowan k...@cornell.edu wrote: I don't think I've ever seen one of those hawks with a mouse or rat. Lots of pheasants, though. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-8672579-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: bounce-8672579-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:29 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? True. I know those birds catch a lot of mice, etc., that are attracted there by the grain. And Cooper's Hawks catch pigeons, starlings, and House Sparrows there, which are also attracted by the grain. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu [ bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [ wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:23 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? What I guess we don't know is what proportion of their diet it pheasant versus rodent. - Original Message - From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com To: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu Cc: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Yes. I totally agree Chris. And what a totally unnatural environment and conditions, with those blinders on and totally exposed to all inclement weather. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: Wouldn't these Red-tailed Hawks primarily be targeting the weak or sick; the ones that might die off (in this unnatural environment) anyway? -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -Original Message- From: bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:19 PM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people who work there have told me that they often see them catch them. Tim Gallagher Editor-in-Chief LIVING BIRD Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 254-2443 t...@cornell.edu From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM To: cayugabirds-l Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm? Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME
Re:[cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the game farm?
Thank you all for your replies to my question! I made an error in my initial email. Ring-necked Pheasants (RNEP) are *one of many* food sources for RTHA and not a *preferred *food. Per Tim: “Like sitting ducks” is the metaphor I use when I'm at the Game Farm. John Confer brought up a good point. Since opportunistic GHOW will feed on RNEP, I imagine they must also take advantage of the high concentration of rodents and captive RNEP at the Game Farm. Linda: The Game Farm doesn’t intentionally release the RNEP with the blinders on, do they? Are you referring to escapees? At 13:30 today (clear, calm, 23 degrees F) there were about 16 RTHA pen-sitting with at least 23 more in near by trees. A BALD EAGLE was soaring over the fields west of Game Farm Road/south of McGowan Woods. Good Birding, Folks! Candace On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Candace Cornell cec...@gmail.com wrote: This may be a naive question, but why don’t the large number of Red-tailed Hawks (15-60+), which keep vigil at the Ring-necked Pheasant pens on Game Farm Road in Ithaca, decimate the pheasant population? According to the BNA, Ring-necked Pheasant is one of their preferred foods and I've seen them eating what looks pheasant entrails within the pens. Candace Cornell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Green-winged Teal
On a drive up the lake to take site photos, I stopped at Ladoga. Birds of special note were one male Green-winged Teal and three Northern Pintails. In Aurora Bay there were 16 very distant Horned Grebes. I did not find the female shoveler at factory Street Pond but did see a female Ruddy Duck there along with several Hooded Mergansers. Bob McGuire -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] lake birds
To add to the list of birds seen on lake trips the last few days- on a Sunday trip up the lake Shannon and I found a female WOOD DUCK on the Mill Pond in Union Springs. The only other birds we found that was not mentioned previously were the 3 Turkey Vultures we saw on Seybolt Rd (Town of Varick if I remember correctly). We found Red-winged Blackbirds in various places, and at least for me perhaps the nicest find was the E. Bluebird we saw sitting on a wire on Ellis Hollow Rd about 1000 ft from Rt. 79. Bill Baker - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Monday Night Seminar: The Legend of Pale Male
__ The Legend of Pale Male Frederic Lilien Cinematographer, Director With clips from his latest film The Legend of Pale Male, filmmaker Frederic Lilien will explore how one single red-tailed hawk became a symbol of the successful immigrant, a model of fatherhood, an ambassador of the wild, a metaphor for freedom, and a cause célèbre in heart of New York City. Lilien presents The Legend of Pale Male as a character study that chronicles how one special bird came to embody so much to so many. See the film, too! There will also be a special advance screening of The Legend of Pale Male on the following evening, *Tuesday, March 8*, at the Willard Straight Theater featuring Frederic Lilien. More information available at http://cinema.cornell.edu Check out the flyer online at http://goo.gl/fzCCK and the trailer for the new movie at http://www.thelegendofpalemale.com/HOME.html ___ Monday Night Seminars were originally conceived by Lab founder Dr. Arthur A. Allen as a venue for sharing the complex world of science in a format aimed at a public audience. Seminars typically begin at 7:30 p.m. (doors open at 7:00 p.m.) in the Visitors’ Center Auditorium. As always, admission is free and open to all. ** Charles Eldermire Public Education Outreach Associate Manager, Sapsucker Woods Johnson Visitors' Center Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Rd. Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 254-1131 (607) 254-2111 [fax] birds.cornell.edu/visit twitter.com/sapsuckerwoods facebook.com/sapsuckerwoods -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
