[cayugabirds-l] duck hunting IN Stewart Park
I've stayed out of this discussion, but this morning four duck hunters were shooting ducks in Stewart Park, just off the tennis courts. Although they might technically be legally offshore, they could have walked to the parking lot without getting their feet wet. And they barely got their feet wet to pick up their ducks; not even knee high water. One could argue where the shoreline actually is when the lake level is down or the edge frozen. For all intents and purposes they were IN the park. I'm pro hunting, but not in my city park! Kevin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Evening Grosbeaks
Evening Grosbeaks continue this morning. They're not coming to my feeders, but hanging out in my neighbor's yard. She has a bigger sunflower operation, but it's not visible from the road. I will try to put up a feeder today, within sight of the road for the benefit of car birders. Will keep you posted. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park: decoys on ice, gunners' boat adjacen...
Hi Dave, Kevin, et al., I thought it might be worth pointing out that the issue of hunters hunting “in the water” is based on substantial case law and even a U.S. Supreme Court ruling. I am not saying anybody should like the behavior of hunters doing this, but it is clearly legal. Actually, the law specifically states that they can hunt below the high-water line. Given that Cayuga Lake is drawn down in winter to prevent spring flooding along the Canal system, hunters can legally hunt from dry land. State law then allows hunters “on the water” to hunt within the statutorily defined safety zone (50 feet from homes and other occupied buildings) as long as they do not shoot toward those buildings. Hence, you have people shooting near homes while moored at the end of a dock, for example. There actually are well thought-out reasons for this. Waterfowl do not use the lake randomly or certainly not evenly. There are certain places where the waterfowl want to be. The effective shooting range of shotguns is up to about 50 yards. That means that hunters literally have to be in the particular locations where the birds want to be. Zoning hunters into parts of the lake not used by the waterfowl on a regular basis would essentially eliminate the opportunity to hunt. Now, having said all that, nobody should hunt in a given location just because it is legal to do so (in my opinion). I think it is egregiously unethical to hunt from a boat right off of somebody else’s dock without first getting their permission. Similarly, the kind of “in your face” attitude expressed by people who hunt right off shore adjacent to Steward Park, in my opinion, is despicable. The Hog Hole situation is a lot more gray in my opinion. But please keep in mind, that my opinion only matters to me! Same goes for my sense of ethics. In my warped view of the world, I think it was also egregiously unethical for Stewart Park to have been filled. I’d personally love to see a restored marsh (think Catherine Marsh at s. end of Seneca Lake). Of course that might ultimately mean loss of Renwick Woods if a hydrological regime was re-established at the s. end of Cayuga Lake. Anyway, restoration of at least some marsh area at the end of Cayuga Lake could be something that both birders and hunters could get excited about. I am not saying that is feasible or could ever get enough traction locally to see the light of day, but it sure would be exciting to think about. For those of you who can’t wait until waterfowl season is over, the last day to hunt ducks in this part of the state is January 13th. Jody Jody W. Enck, PhD Human Dimensions of Natural Resources Cornell Lab of Ornithology From: 6072292...@vtext.com Sent: January 11, 2013 7:48 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park: decoys on ice, gunners' boat adjacen... Stewart Park: decoys on ice, gunners' boat adjacent, dying bird retrieved on foot, most birds in southeast corner. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Skittishness of large bird flocks -- Re: 200 Redpolls again
It seems to me that large bird flocks are moreprone to take flight suddenly as a group simply because the large number makes it more probable that one or more birds moves suddenly, causing the whole group to take fright/flight. Smaller flocks have a smaller probability at any given moment. Birds in a flock are constantly aware of what others are doing, presumably as warning and group safety. Meanwhile, an individual is always twitching to get at the food -- a sudden jump may be all that it takes to set off the whole flock. This looks like what one always sees with Snow Bunting flocks that take off and return to the same spot every few moments. Does someone have a video of such behaviour to demonstrate whether this interpretation is correct? (However, this does not explain why flocks disappear from feeders for hours or days before returning.) Nari Mistry -- Nari B. Mistry, Ithaca, NY To see my paintings, visit http://www.ArtbyNari.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Gunners packed up from Stewart Park, headed NW. St...
Gunners packed up from Stewart Park, headed NW. Still some birds in SE corner. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fw: Birdhouse Roof Tile
This clever looking birdhouse appears to be glued to the roof tile and made of clay, itself. So, how does one clean it out periodically? Donna Scott - Original Message - From: Lisa Welch To: cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fw: Birdhouse Roof Tile - Forwarded Message - From: Erik Bootsma erikboot...@bootsma-design.com To: trada...@listserv.miami.edu Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: Birdhouse Roof Tile A roof tile/birdhouse. Pretty cool idea. I wonder if they can do a bat house too? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/designboom/birdhouse-rooftile-klaas-kuiken_b_2402279.html -- Erik Bootsma 4400 Lee Highway #309 Arlington VA, 22207 (571) 502-8500 e...@bootsma-design.com radianceofform.blogspot.com * * * * * * * The Tradarch List is an open forum for the discussion of the theory and practice of traditional architecture; It is affiliated with the Certificate in Classical Architecture at the University of Miami School of Architecture, the ICAA, and INTBAU. Please direct enquiries to the listowner, Dr Richard John (rj...@miami.edu). To join (or leave) the listserv, or to browse its archives, visit www.tradarch.net. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fw: Birdhouse Roof Tile
Hmm...the wording isn't terribly clear, but it sounds like the idea is that the nest itself is below the tile and not entirely within the box: the box would just provide the entrance. I'm guessing this based on the article says that Birds often create nesting areas within the roofs of houses, and later that an archetypal house to be attached on top of it with a basket below. I've seen the insides of a few Belgian and German roofs (I'm assuming that Dutch roofs would be similar) from below the outer tiles, and as long as there's an attic area at the top, then the tiles can just be sitting on wooden slats that are running horizontally across the roof with downward hooks on the books of the tiles hooking over the slats so that the tiles do not slide down and fall off. There doesn't have to be any continuous solid base on which the tiles are resting. Anyway, that's what I think is happening with this design, and so I'm guessing that the bird house could be cleaned from underneath, because the bottom is not the base of the tile, but extends downwards into the attic. Wesley Hochachka From: bounce-72575939-3494...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72575939-3494...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Donna Scott Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:32 PM To: Lisa Welch; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fw: Birdhouse Roof Tile This clever looking birdhouse appears to be glued to the roof tile and made of clay, itself. So, how does one clean it out periodically? Donna Scott - Original Message - From: Lisa Welchmailto:welch_m_l...@yahoo.com To: cayugabird...@list.cornell.edumailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fw: Birdhouse Roof Tile - Forwarded Message - From: Erik Bootsma erikboot...@bootsma-design.commailto:erikboot...@bootsma-design.com To: trada...@listserv.miami.edumailto:trada...@listserv.miami.edu Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: Birdhouse Roof Tile A roof tile/birdhouse. Pretty cool idea. I wonder if they can do a bat house too? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/designboom/birdhouse-rooftile-klaas-kuiken_b_2402279.html -- Erik Bootsma 4400 Lee Highway #309 Arlington VA, 22207 (571) 502-8500 e...@bootsma-design.commailto:i...@bootsma-design.com radianceofform.blogspot.comhttp://radianceofform.blogspot.com/ * * * * * * * The Tradarch List is an open forum for the discussion of the theory and practice of traditional architecture; It is affiliated with the Certificate in Classical Architecture at the University of Miami School of Architecture, the ICAA, and INTBAU. Please direct enquiries to the listowner, Dr Richard John (rj...@miami.edumailto:rj...@miami.edu). To join (or leave) the listserv, or to browse its archives, visit www.tradarch.nethttp://www.tradarch.net/. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Rafts of ducks
At dusk today, I spotted a few (4?) long rafts of many dark-headed ducks near the Boy Scout Camp on the WEST shore of Cayuga Lake, ACROSS from Bill George Rd and Lansing Station Rds. (on the East side). Didn't have my scope along in car, so I could not determine species. Donna Scott Donna L. Scott Lansing Station Road Lansing, NY 14882 d...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Short-Eared Owls
Gary and I scoured the Ovid area for SHORT-EARED OWLS, but Usually if you see Northern Harriers, you see Short-eared Owls. There were none of either species. There was lots of corn in the fields. I think the owls like hay better. The search is on. Good Birding, Ann -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
