Re: [cayugabirds-l] Rough legged hawk

2016-01-19 Thread Geo Kloppel
Everything on the east side of Potomac Road in the vicinity of Searsburg Road 
is in the Cayuga basin. The west side is more ambiguous, though there is 
clearly some basin territory over there too. See the Town of Hector map:

http://www.schuylercounty.us/DocumentCenter/View/622

-Geo

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> On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:22 PM, David Diaz  wrote:
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> Saw a light morph rough-legged hawk flying over fields along Potomac and 
> Searsburg Road (FLNF). Is this within the basin?
> 
> David Diaz
> Tburg, NY
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Rough legged hawk

2016-01-19 Thread Dave Nutter
Looking at Google Maps terrain feature, which has some too lines as well as 
creeks, and comparing that to the aerial view to show field v forest, it 
appears that the divide is west of Potomac Rd about halfway between Potomac Rd 
and the west edge of the field along Searsburg Rd. The Interloken Trail appears 
to be close to or on the divide where it crosses Searsburg Rd. So, most of 
those fields are in the Cayuga Lake Basin along both sides of Potomac, but the 
western extreme along Searsburg is out. 
—Dave Nutter
> On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:
> 
> Everything on the east side of Potomac Road in the vicinity of Searsburg Road 
> is in the Cayuga basin. The west side is more ambiguous, though there is 
> clearly some basin territory over there too. See the Town of Hector map:
> 
> http://www.schuylercounty.us/DocumentCenter/View/622
> 
> -Geo
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:22 PM, David Diaz  wrote:
>> 
>> Saw a light morph rough-legged hawk flying over fields along Potomac and 
>> Searsburg Road (FLNF). Is this within the basin?
>> 
>> David Diaz
>> Tburg, NY
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[cayugabirds-l] Cayuga Lake Basin 2016 First Records, with explanation

2016-01-19 Thread Dave Nutter
For those who already saw the initial announcement, sorry for the redundancy. 
I’m also adding some explanatory notes.
For those who are only now enabled to read the message on the digest, archives, 
and certain email services, sorry I didn’t send it that way the first time. 

The 2016 basin first records list is now up to date and available here
http://www.cayugabirdclub.org/Resources/cayuga-lake-basin-first-records 

for critical review. Please let me know of any 
questions/disagreements/corrections regarding species, dates, observers, or 
locations. (Killdeer, for instance, was found earlier on Hile School Road, but 
my maps show this area to be outside the basin, draining instead to Owasco 
lake.) 

Apologies for this taking so long. My goal is to keep the list up to date 
within a day or so of new findings.

A word about the number of names and sites listed: 

It used to be (when I started coming to the Lab) that only the earliest birder 
to find a species was listed. This was exciting for birders like me, who strove 
to get their names in calligraphy on the first records list displayed in the 
Lab of O observatory. Now, as the person compiling the list, I’ve found that 
it’s a difficult task to sort out who saw a bird a 6:07am versus someone else 
who heard the same species at 5:59am even though their eBird reports started in 
the other order. Also, some information gets lost. Is the new find a stray, or 
is it part of a massive overnight invasion? The list isn’t as fancy-looking 
anymore, but there’s also room for more observations and the opportunity for 
revisions. I figure that, as long as the observations are from the same initial 
calendar day that the species has been found, then multiple independent 
observations of different individual birds add to the interest. So that’s what 
I put on the list.

The exception is the first day of the year, New Year’s Day, when we hold the 
Ithaca Christmas Bird Count, which is mostly within the Cayuga Lake Basin. A 
lot of birds get observed that day. Northern Cardinals and Black-capped 
Chickadees are lovely creatures, but darned if I’m gonna spend time and further 
bore people by listing every observation. I figure that any species which is 
observed by multiple parties on that count goes in the broad category of “they 
were already generally here.” Listing a single person or place for those 
species would be both distracting and misinformative. So in these cases, as was 
traditional on these annual lists, I just write "Ithaca CBC" for the 
observer(s) and the location. 

But if only a single party finds a species on the Ithaca CBC, or even if 
multiple parties independently find only the same individual bird or flock of a 
species, then I figure we’re back in the category of rarities, strays, 
holdovers, and initial invaders which deserve special documentation. And the 
birders who find such birds should be recognized as diligent, observant, 
knowledgeable, and open-minded, perhaps making an extra effort or having 
special knowledge of techniques or where to go. They can be consulted about 
what exactly they observed or where exactly they found the critter. 

And since the scouring of a 15-mile diameter CBC circle has only turned up the 
species once, we’re talking again about the thin wispy edges of a population, 
so I think it’s informative to show how sparse the species is or isn’t by 
including any additional observations of the species that day from parts of the 
basin outside the Ithaca CBC circle. This is, after all, a list for the whole 
basin. The “Ithaca CBC” designation on some January 1 species is not meant to 
be Ithaca-centric. I am simply using the Ithaca CBC as a tool to separate the 
uncommon birds and birders. A few species may inadvertantly end up in this rare 
bird category even though they were “already generally here” only at the north 
end of the basin, but I figure the folks who go to the trouble to find them on 
New Year’s Day deserve credit.

—Dave Nutter
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[cayugabirds-l] Cayuga Lake Basin 2016 First Records

2016-01-19 Thread Dave Nutter

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[cayugabirds-l] Rough legged hawk

2016-01-19 Thread David Diaz
Saw a light morph rough-legged hawk flying over fields along Potomac and 
Searsburg Road (FLNF). Is this within the basin?

David Diaz
Tburg, NY
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