Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[Hurf Sheldon]

This is a very good option for carbon offsetting:
https://www.fingerlakesclimatefund.org/
cheers,
hurf

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:24 AM Regi Teasley  wrote:

> Totally agree.  I have always thought that birders are a “sleeping giant”
> that can make a *big* difference.
> Regi
>
> 
> *“If we surrendered to the earth’s intelligence, we could rise up rooted,
> like trees.” Rainer Maria Rilke*
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
>
>  I like this idea, Bob.
>
> Re SPCA, they do more than any other group to neuter/spay feral cats, &
> also cats of low-income people, with their free feral program & their
> low-cost program for pets of those with limited means. I sometimes trap
> ferals here & take them to SPCA.
> All animals adopted from SPCA go home neutered.
>
> And to repeat what I have recently posted at various online places:
> The Finger Lakes Land Trust really needs donations NOW for the purchase of
> the Bell Station land from NYSEG.
> for more info see www.fllt.org/savebellstation
> This explains the way this deal works.
>
>  NYS didn’t buy BS from NYSEG; nys just convinced NYSEG & Public Service
> Commission to let FLLT buy Bell Station for later transfer to NYS DEC as a
> Wildlife Mgt. Area, ensuring public access to this wonderful
> lakeshore-woods.
>
> Non-profit FLLT does a masterful job at saving land from development in
> various ways & they always emphasize that what they do creates, improves &
> saves habitat for birds & wildlife!
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Stephanie P. Herrick  wrote:
>
> 
> I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:
>
> 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
> 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect
> on why we are doing it
>
> Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!
>
> - S
> --
> *From:* bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of bob mcguire <
> bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
> *To:* Dave Nutter 
> *Cc:* linda orkin ; John Gregoire <
> johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <
> cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by
> Bryan Pfeiffer
>
> Me too (a movement here?).
>
> And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize
> field trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was
> encouraged (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either
> the Land Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player
> in habitat conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check
> this out) play a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local
> organizations, local impact.
>
> Could something like this fly?
>
> Bob McGuire
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for
> me a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as
> organizations, as unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.
>
> - - Dave Nutter
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
>
> Thanks John.
>
> Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I
> embrace these thoughts fully.
>
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Birdwatching’s Carbon Problem | Bryan Pfeiffer
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[Dave Nutter]

Good to hear others’ ideas, thanks!

One of Pfeiffer’s suggestions is that, as must as possible, we walk rather than 
drive on the Christmas Bird Count. I’ve made that my tradition for a number of 
years, literally just walking out my door and out on a big complicated loop for 
the morning, then off “poaching” in the afternoon (again by foot) at one of the 
hotspot parks which others already formally covered on the count. I find that 
starting the year this way keeps me in touch with the birds and people of my 
neighborhood, and of course I can do a far more thorough job birding outside of 
a car. 

Before I adopted my neighborhood as a CBC territory, I shared a rural CBC 
territory with another birder. We took my small car and a spare set of keys. We 
drove to the start of a road, I dropped her off with keys at the start. Then I 
drove a mile, parked, and walked ahead while she birded and caught up to the 
car. She drove to me, we switched and I drove ahead. We leapfrogged, all 
birding on foot, and neither the people nor the car backtracked, so neither 
time nor fuel were not wasted, we didn’t get too cold, and we checked in 
regularly. 

- - Dave Nutter

> On Dec 9, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Poppy Singer  wrote:
> 
> I appreciated the author saying that he has shifted his focus to learning 
> more of the local flora and fauna. Along this line, perhaps we could combine 
> bird walks with plant walks?
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM Stephanie P. Herrick  wrote:
>> I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:
>> 
>> 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
>> 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect on 
>> why we are doing it
>> 
>> Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!   
>> 
>> - S
>> From: bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu 
>>  on behalf of bob mcguire 
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
>> To: Dave Nutter 
>> Cc: linda orkin ; John Gregoire 
>> ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan 
>> Pfeiffer
>>  
>> Me too (a movement here?).   
>> 
>> And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field 
>> trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged 
>> (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land 
>> Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat 
>> conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) 
>> play a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local 
>> organizations, local impact. 
>> 
>> Could something like this fly?  
>> 
>> Bob McGuire
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for 
>>> me a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as 
>>> organizations, as unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome. 
>>> 
>>> - - Dave Nutter
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks John. 
 
 Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I 
 embrace these thoughts fully. 
 
 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY
 
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire  
> wrote:
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> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[Astrid Jirka]

It's good to see this issue being brought to light folks. Another
organization to consider that is directly involved in local carbon
offsetting initiatives in Tompkins County is the Sustainable Tompkins
Fingerlakes Climate Fund. The Cayuga Bird Club could have an account with
them under their Carbon Race project. Any time anyone ever travels, for
birding purposes or otherwise, they could donate funds via the Club's
account. ST will do the carbon calculation for you.

Here's some info: https://www.fingerlakesclimatefund.org/

Thanks to everyone paying attention out there and for sharing the article
Linda.

*Astrid Jirka*
Director of Tourism Initiatives
~~~
Discover Cayuga Lake - "Tourism with a Mission"
www.discovercayugalake.org 
Tompkins Center for History & Culture, Suite 303
607-327-LAKE (5253)


On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:24 AM Regi Teasley  wrote:

> Totally agree.  I have always thought that birders are a “sleeping giant”
> that can make a *big* difference.
> Regi
>
> 
> *“If we surrendered to the earth’s intelligence, we could rise up rooted,
> like trees.” Rainer Maria Rilke*
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
>
>  I like this idea, Bob.
>
> Re SPCA, they do more than any other group to neuter/spay feral cats, &
> also cats of low-income people, with their free feral program & their
> low-cost program for pets of those with limited means. I sometimes trap
> ferals here & take them to SPCA.
> All animals adopted from SPCA go home neutered.
>
> And to repeat what I have recently posted at various online places:
> The Finger Lakes Land Trust really needs donations NOW for the purchase of
> the Bell Station land from NYSEG.
> for more info see www.fllt.org/savebellstation
> This explains the way this deal works.
>
>  NYS didn’t buy BS from NYSEG; nys just convinced NYSEG & Public Service
> Commission to let FLLT buy Bell Station for later transfer to NYS DEC as a
> Wildlife Mgt. Area, ensuring public access to this wonderful
> lakeshore-woods.
>
> Non-profit FLLT does a masterful job at saving land from development in
> various ways & they always emphasize that what they do creates, improves &
> saves habitat for birds & wildlife!
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Stephanie P. Herrick  wrote:
>
> 
> I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:
>
> 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
> 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect
> on why we are doing it
>
> Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!
>
> - S
> --
> *From:* bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of bob mcguire <
> bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
> *To:* Dave Nutter 
> *Cc:* linda orkin ; John Gregoire <
> johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <
> cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by
> Bryan Pfeiffer
>
> Me too (a movement here?).
>
> And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize
> field trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was
> encouraged (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either
> the Land Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player
> in habitat conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check
> this out) play a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local
> organizations, local impact.
>
> Could something like this fly?
>
> Bob McGuire
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for
> me a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as
> organizations, as unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.
>
> - - Dave Nutter
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
>
> Thanks John.
>
> Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I
> embrace these thoughts fully.
>
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Birdwatching’s Carbon Problem | Bryan Pfeiffer
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[Regi Teasley]

Totally agree.  I have always thought that birders are a “sleeping giant” that 
can make a big difference.
Regi


“If we surrendered to the earth’s intelligence, we could rise up rooted, like 
trees.” Rainer Maria Rilke


> On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Donna Lee Scott  wrote:
> 
>  I like this idea, Bob. 
> 
> Re SPCA, they do more than any other group to neuter/spay feral cats, & also 
> cats of low-income people, with their free feral program & their low-cost 
> program for pets of those with limited means. I sometimes trap ferals here & 
> take them to SPCA. 
> All animals adopted from SPCA go home neutered. 
> 
> And to repeat what I have recently posted at various online places: 
> The Finger Lakes Land Trust really needs donations NOW for the purchase of 
> the Bell Station land from NYSEG. 
> for more info see www.fllt.org/savebellstation
> This explains the way this deal works.
> 
>  NYS didn’t buy BS from NYSEG; nys just convinced NYSEG & Public Service 
> Commission to let FLLT buy Bell Station for later transfer to NYS DEC as a 
> Wildlife Mgt. Area, ensuring public access to this wonderful lakeshore-woods. 
> 
> Non-profit FLLT does a masterful job at saving land from development in 
> various ways & they always emphasize that what they do creates, improves & 
> saves habitat for birds & wildlife!
> 
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Stephanie P. Herrick  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:
>> 
>> 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
>> 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect on 
>> why we are doing it
>> 
>> Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!   
>> 
>> - S
>> From: bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu 
>>  on behalf of bob mcguire 
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
>> To: Dave Nutter 
>> Cc: linda orkin ; John Gregoire 
>> ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan 
>> Pfeiffer
>>  
>> Me too (a movement here?).   
>> 
>> And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field 
>> trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged 
>> (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land 
>> Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat 
>> conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) 
>> play a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local 
>> organizations, local impact. 
>> 
>> Could something like this fly?  
>> 
>> Bob McGuire
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for 
>>> me a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as 
>>> organizations, as unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome. 
>>> 
>>> - - Dave Nutter
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks John. 
 
 Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I 
 embrace these thoughts fully. 
 
 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY
 
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Birdwatching’s Carbon Problem | Bryan Pfeiffer
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[Jane Frances Bunker]

I love the idea of including a focus on plants and insects as well as birds, 
and am guessing there is plenty of expertise in this group to do so. Or we 
could also reach out to like-minded organizations to partner/collaborate in 
this way. A focus on the broader ecosystem makes great sense, a la Doug Tallamy.

From: bounce-126137580-90604...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Poppy Singer
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 9:13 AM
To: Stephanie P. Herrick 
Cc: bob mcguire ; Dave Nutter 
; linda orkin ; John Gregoire 
; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan 
Pfeiffer

It would be fun to learn about insects as well!

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 9:02 AM Poppy Singer 
mailto:poppysinger.ith...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I appreciated the author saying that he has shifted his focus to learning more 
of the local flora and fauna. Along this line, perhaps we could combine bird 
walks with plant walks?

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM Stephanie P. Herrick 
mailto:s...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:

1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect on 
why we are doing it

Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!

- S

From: 
bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu
 
mailto:bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu>>
 on behalf of bob mcguire 
mailto:bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
To: Dave Nutter mailto:nutter.d...@me.com>>
Cc: linda orkin mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>>; John 
Gregoire mailto:johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>>; 
CAYUGABIRDS-L 
mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan 
Pfeiffer

Me too (a movement here?).

And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field 
trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged (not 
required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land Trust or 
the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat 
conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) play a 
role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local organizations, local 
impact.

Could something like this fly?

Bob McGuire


On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter 
mailto:nutter.d...@me.com>> wrote:

Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for me a 
long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as organizations, as 
unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.
- - Dave Nutter

On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin 
mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks John.

Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I embrace 
these thoughts fully.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY


On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire 
mailto:johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>> wrote:

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[Poppy Singer]

It would be fun to learn about insects as well!

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 9:02 AM Poppy Singer 
wrote:

> I appreciated the author saying that he has shifted his focus to learning
> more of the local flora and fauna. Along this line, perhaps we could
> combine bird walks with plant walks?
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM Stephanie P. Herrick 
> wrote:
>
>> I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:
>>
>> 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
>> 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect
>> on why we are doing it
>>
>> Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!
>>
>> - S
>> --
>> *From:* bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu <
>> bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of bob mcguire <
>> bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
>> *To:* Dave Nutter 
>> *Cc:* linda orkin ; John Gregoire <
>> johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <
>> cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by
>> Bryan Pfeiffer
>>
>> Me too (a movement here?).
>>
>> And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize
>> field trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was
>> encouraged (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either
>> the Land Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player
>> in habitat conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check
>> this out) play a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local
>> organizations, local impact.
>>
>> Could something like this fly?
>>
>> Bob McGuire
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>>
>> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for
>> me a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as
>> organizations, as unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.
>>
>> - - Dave Nutter
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks John.
>>
>> Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I
>> embrace these thoughts fully.
>>
>> Linda Orkin
>> Ithaca, NY
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire 
>> wrote:
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>> 
>> Birdwatching’s Carbon Problem | Bryan Pfeiffer
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[Poppy Singer]

I appreciated the author saying that he has shifted his focus to learning
more of the local flora and fauna. Along this line, perhaps we could
combine bird walks with plant walks?

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM Stephanie P. Herrick 
wrote:

> I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:
>
> 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
> 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect
> on why we are doing it
>
> Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!
>
> - S
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> *From:* bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu <
> bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of bob mcguire <
> bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
> *To:* Dave Nutter 
> *Cc:* linda orkin ; John Gregoire <
> johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <
> cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by
> Bryan Pfeiffer
>
> Me too (a movement here?).
>
> And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize
> field trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was
> encouraged (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either
> the Land Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player
> in habitat conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check
> this out) play a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local
> organizations, local impact.
>
> Could something like this fly?
>
> Bob McGuire
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
>
> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for
> me a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as
> organizations, as unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.
>
> - - Dave Nutter
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  wrote:
>
> Thanks John.
>
> Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I
> embrace these thoughts fully.
>
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Birdwatching’s Carbon Problem | Bryan Pfeiffer
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[Donna Lee Scott]

I like this idea, Bob.

Re SPCA, they do more than any other group to neuter/spay feral cats, & also 
cats of low-income people, with their free feral program & their low-cost 
program for pets of those with limited means. I sometimes trap ferals here & 
take them to SPCA.
All animals adopted from SPCA go home neutered.

And to repeat what I have recently posted at various online places:
The Finger Lakes Land Trust really needs donations NOW for the purchase of the 
Bell Station land from NYSEG.
for more info see www.fllt.org/savebellstation
This explains the way this deal works.

 NYS didn’t buy BS from NYSEG; nys just convinced NYSEG & Public Service 
Commission to let FLLT buy Bell Station for later transfer to NYS DEC as a 
Wildlife Mgt. Area, ensuring public access to this wonderful lakeshore-woods.

Non-profit FLLT does a masterful job at saving land from development in various 
ways & they always emphasize that what they do creates, improves & saves 
habitat for birds & wildlife!

Donna Scott
Lansing
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Stephanie P. Herrick  wrote:


I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:

1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect on 
why we are doing it

Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!

- S

From: bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of bob mcguire 

Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
To: Dave Nutter 
Cc: linda orkin ; John Gregoire 
; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan 
Pfeiffer

Me too (a movement here?).

And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field 
trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged (not 
required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land Trust or 
the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat 
conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) play a 
role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local organizations, local 
impact.

Could something like this fly?

Bob McGuire

On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter 
mailto:nutter.d...@me.com>> wrote:

Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for me a 
long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as organizations, as 
unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.

- - Dave Nutter

On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin 
mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks John.

Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I embrace 
these thoughts fully.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY

On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:21 AM, John Gregoire 
mailto:johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>> wrote:


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[Stephanie P. Herrick]

I like this idea Bob,  for two reasons:

1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups
2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect on 
why we are doing it

Thanks for suggesting!   Looking forward to others thoughts!

- S

From: bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of bob mcguire 

Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM
To: Dave Nutter 
Cc: linda orkin ; John Gregoire 
; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan 
Pfeiffer

Me too (a movement here?).

And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field 
trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged (not 
required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land Trust or 
the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat 
conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) play a 
role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local organizations, local 
impact.

Could something like this fly?

Bob McGuire

On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter 
mailto:nutter.d...@me.com>> wrote:

Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for me a 
long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as organizations, as 
unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome.

- - Dave Nutter

On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin 
mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks John.

Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I embrace 
these thoughts fully.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY

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mailto:johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>> wrote:


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan Pfeiffer

[bob mcguire]

Me too (a movement here?).   

And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field 
trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged (not 
required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land Trust or 
the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat 
conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) play a 
role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local organizations, local 
impact. 

Could something like this fly?  

Bob McGuire

> On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter  wrote:
> 
> Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for me 
> a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as organizations, as 
> unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome. 
> 
> - - Dave Nutter
> 
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin  > wrote:
> 
>> Thanks John. 
>> 
>> Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. I 
>> embrace these thoughts fully. 
>> 
>> Linda Orkin
>> Ithaca, NY
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