RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project: a sign, using a photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the sign to include something like Dispose of your used line wisely, to be placed near fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to this awful issue. It would be controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what?? STuff happens that way. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-63372156-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-63372156-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Paul Anderson [p...@grammatech.com] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:56 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Myers and Hog Hole this morning, plus the hazards of discarded fishing line Below are my eBird reports for Myers Point and Hog Hole - nothing too surprising in either location. However, at Myers in a tree by the creek a Kingfisher had gotten trapped in fishing line with predictable and tragic results. Don't look if you are easily upset... https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/VB5Pmc14LEr9HVGdHnGVhdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink -Paul -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
I think that's a good idea Marie has. I also think it would be good if some kind of project could clean up the accumulated fishing debris that's already out there, not just at Myers but also Stewart Park. I'd be happy to do what I can from my kayak when I go out but not sure it would be safe or that I would have the proper tools. Whom can we contact to share this photo, encourage this kind of clean up, and perhaps volunteer to help with the process? I've noticed a lot of tangled fishing wire and other trash along the inlet shore at Stewart Park when I am out in my kayak. Perhaps there are already regularly scheduled clean ups in place by park personnel but just thought I'd ask. Melissa Melissa Groo Fine Art Photography http://melissagroo.com From: m...@cornell.edu To: p...@grammatech.com; cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project? Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:11:06 + I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project: a sign, using a photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the sign to include something like Dispose of your used line wisely, to be placed near fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to this awful issue. It would be controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what?? STuff happens that way. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
On 8/19/2012 12:11 PM, Marie P Read wrote: I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project: a sign, using a photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the sign to include something like Dispose of your used line wisely, to be placed near fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to this awful issue. It would be controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what?? STuff happens that way. Marie Personally I think it would be a lot more effective for us to just go around to all of the fishing sites we can and remove any line we find. Even making it a point that we make the extra effort when we are birding to watch for things like this and take action on the spot. With as many of us who go out regularly it would only take a little more effort on out part to seek out and remove these hazards as we bird. Besides the fact that while making signs one would have to look at the photos, I don't think I would care to do so. Carl Steckler For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know Unknown Marine Khe Sahn, Vietnam -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
As far as contacting the people in charge (and with the hope that they will initiate some solutions to the problem of left-behind fish line), I suggest the following: Steve Colt, director of parks and recreation, Town of Lansing. The Town manages the park at Myers AND the area of Salt Point. Fishermen use the Town marina and fish from the shore at SP. Both the fisheries biologist and head of the DEC region office in Cortland (names I don't have at the moment). The State of NY actually owns Salt Point even though the Town of Lansing manages it. A letter containing Paul's photo should go to each of them. There are two problems here: fish line that is no longer wanted (tangles, broken line, etc) and line that became snagged in trees or underwater and cut. I have seen the PVC pipe that Steve Fast mentions in fishing spots all over the country, especially at marinas and boat launches. I wouldn't be surprised if the DEC has a stock of them and could supply one for the Myers marina. Dealing with snagged line - and the hazards it can cause - is more difficult. An education campaign, such as a copy of Paul's photo with a caption noting the problem, would be a place to start. Post the photo around the park and at Salt Point. Bob McGuire On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Melissa Groo wrote: I think that's a good idea Marie has. I also think it would be good if some kind of project could clean up the accumulated fishing debris that's already out there, not just at Myers but also Stewart Park. I'd be happy to do what I can from my kayak when I go out but not sure it would be safe or that I would have the proper tools. Whom can we contact to share this photo, encourage this kind of clean up, and perhaps volunteer to help with the process? I've noticed a lot of tangled fishing wire and other trash along the inlet shore at Stewart Park when I am out in my kayak. Perhaps there are already regularly scheduled clean ups in place by park personnel but just thought I'd ask. Melissa Melissa Groo Fine Art Photography http://melissagroo.com From: m...@cornell.edu To: p...@grammatech.com; cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project? Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:11:06 + I wonder whether the Bird CLub should take up a new project: a sign, using a photo such as Paul's (I couldn't actually bring myself to look at it), the sign to include something like Dispose of your used line wisely, to be placed near fishing areas, would make people pay more attention to this awful issue. It would be controversial and upsetting to some peoplebut then, so what?? STuff happens that way. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
Thanks for the contact info Bob. Yes, I was wondering how one would deal with the snagged line, since that's usually inaccessible (one of the reasons it is cut and left!). One way would be to remove the offending branch(es) to which it's caught...I have a long tree trimmer that could be used. But one would probably need to alert the authorities before doing this. I would be willing to start the ball rolling on this issue, although knowing what else I have to do, it will be a slow process. Let me gather all the information and thoughts from other postings today, and compile, and maybe present a suggested plan of action at the next CBC directors meeting. I could also present something at the business section of an upcoming club meeting...but not the September one because I have knee surgery that day and will be not in the best frame of mind...if even conscious! Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bob mcguire [bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:50 PM To: Melissa Groo Cc: Marie P Read; p...@grammatech.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project? As far as contacting the people in charge (and with the hope that they will initiate some solutions to the problem of left-behind fish line), I suggest the following: Steve Colt, director of parks and recreation, Town of Lansing. The Town manages the park at Myers AND the area of Salt Point. Fishermen use the Town marina and fish from the shore at SP. Both the fisheries biologist and head of the DEC region office in Cortland (names I don't have at the moment). The State of NY actually owns Salt Point even though the Town of Lansing manages it. A letter containing Paul's photo should go to each of them. There are two problems here: fish line that is no longer wanted (tangles, broken line, etc) and line that became snagged in trees or underwater and cut. I have seen the PVC pipe that Steve Fast mentions in fishing spots all over the country, especially at marinas and boat launches. I wouldn't be surprised if the DEC has a stock of them and could supply one for the Myers marina. Dealing with snagged line - and the hazards it can cause - is more difficult. An education campaign, such as a copy of Paul's photo with a caption noting the problem, would be a place to start. Post the photo around the park and at Salt Point. Bob McGuire On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Melissa Groo wrote: I think that's a good idea Marie has. I also think it would be good if some kind of project could clean up the accumulated fishing debris that's already out there, not just at Myers but also Stewart Park. I'd be happy to do what I can from my kayak when I go out but not sure it would be safe or that I would have the proper tools. Whom can we contact to share this photo, encourage this kind of clean up, and perhaps volunteer to help with the process? I've noticed a lot of tangled fishing wire and other trash along the inlet shore at Stewart Park when I am out in my kayak. Perhaps there are already regularly scheduled clean ups in place by park personnel but just thought I'd ask. Melissa Melissa Groo Fine Art Photography http://melissagroo.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
Carl makes some good points here Personally I think it would be a lot more effective for us to just go around to all of the fishing sites we can and remove any line we find. Even making it a point that we make the extra effort when we are birding to watch for things like this and take action on the spot. With as many of us who go out regularly it would only take a little more effort on out part to seek out and remove these hazards as we bird. Certainly we could clean up as we go. But, unless I'm mistaken, the most egregious line is that which is inaccessibly high and snagged on branches, which is why it is cut and abandoned in the first place. To remove that would probably require more effort and more tools that most of us carry around birding with us. I am totally ignorant about fishing...so a question to those who know, is there a better way for an angler to deal with snagged line than to cut and leave it? Of course the obvious answer is to make more of an effort to reach it and untangle. I am not trying to set anyone up, simply wanting more information. It strikes me that we should be tackling the problem at its outset, not merely cleaning up afterwards. Marie Marie Read Wildlife Photography 452 Ringwood Road Freeville NY 13068 USA Phone 607-539-6608 e-mail m...@cornell.edu http://www.marieread.com ***NEW*** Music of the Birds Vol 1 ebook for Apple iPad now available from iTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/music-of-the-birds-v1/id529347014?mt=11 From: bounce-63376103-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-63376103-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Carl Steckler [c...@cornell.edu] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:39 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] plus the hazards of discarded fishing line - a new club project?
In response to Geo's note - I caught a fishing line in a tree on my first cast once, so I know how easily it happens. Luckily for me and any unsuspecting wildlife, the line was retrievable! Ann Mitchell On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:28 PM, geoklop...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience (having been raised among anglers), snags in trees are should have known better events, i.e. the result of careless or inept casting. Experienced anglers can avoid this problem. More difficult to avoid are the underwater snags, and I suspect the latter exact a greater cost on wildlife, though the submerged tackle and the victims may remain out of sight. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
