Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[nutter . dave]

Yes, Fuertes made great contributions. There's a bronze plaque where a sanctuary was created in his honor shortly after his untimely death - the area now often called the swan pond. Cayuga Bird Club Historian Jane Graves has the documentation of this - contemporary newspaper accounts of the plans and fund-raising for that purpose. Websites are notorious for being inaccurate, and the City of Ithaca website referring to Renwick Wildwood (the name on the concrete arch) as Fuertes Sanctuary is unsubstantiated by any historical record that our historian has found so far. Please use the correct name, not perpetuate the misnomer. If someone sends you a reference to an official renaming of Renwick as Fuertes, please let us know. --Dave NutterOn May 13, 2013, at 05:14 PM, Christopher Wood  wrote:Hi everyone,I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that opinions are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the woods Renwick, I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official website of Ithaca calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary". It describes this both in text and on the map. Given the huge contributions that Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the official City of Ithaca website and go with calling the 55 acres the "Fuertes Sanctuary". http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfmChristopher WoodeBird Project LeaderCornell Lab of Ornithologyhttp://ebird.orghttp://birds.cornell.edu--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!--
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

Hi all,

Now I am curious to know why was it named Renwick Woods? Who was Renwick? Must 
have done something good  to name after him and when was it named? If it was 
named before Fuertes' death Fuertes must have been in agreement with that 
naming,

Curious about the Ithaca history.

Meena







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Yes, Fuertes made great contributions. There's a bronze plaque where a 
sanctuary was created in his honor shortly after his untimely death - the area 
now often called the swan pond. Cayuga Bird Club Historian Jane Graves has the 
documentation of this - contemporary newspaper accounts of the plans and 
fund-raising for that purpose. Websites are notorious for being inaccurate, and 
the City of Ithaca website referring to Renwick Wildwood (the name on the 
concrete arch) as Fuertes Sanctuary is unsubstantiated by any historical record 
that our historian has found so far. Please use the correct name, not 
perpetuate the misnomer. If someone sends you a reference to an official 
renaming of Renwick as Fuertes, please let us know.

--Dave Nutter

On May 13, 2013, at 05:14 PM, Christopher Wood  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that opinions 
are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the woods Renwick, 
I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official website of Ithaca 
calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary". It 
describes this both in text and on the map. Given the huge contributions that 
Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the official City of Ithaca 
website and go with calling the 55 acres the "Fuertes Sanctuary".

http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm


Christopher Wood
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Catherine Cooke]

Perhaps this is the answer to your question.

http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm

Cathy Cooke


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Meena Madhav Haribal wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Now I am curious to know why was it named Renwick Woods? Who was Renwick?
> Must have done something good  to name after him and when was it named? If
> it was named before Fuertes' death Fuertes must have been in agreement with
> that naming,
>
> Curious about the Ithaca history.
>
> Meena
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Meena Haribal
> Ithaca NY 14850
> http://haribal.org/
> http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
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> *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes
>
>   Yes, Fuertes made great contributions. There's a bronze plaque where a
> sanctuary was created in his honor shortly after his untimely death - the
> area now often called the swan pond. Cayuga Bird Club Historian Jane Graves
> has the documentation of this - contemporary newspaper accounts of the
> plans and fund-raising for that purpose. Websites are notorious for being
> inaccurate, and the City of Ithaca website referring to Renwick Wildwood
> (the name on the concrete arch) as Fuertes Sanctuary is unsubstantiated by
> any historical record that our historian has found so far. Please use the
> correct name, not perpetuate the misnomer. If someone sends you a reference
> to an official renaming of Renwick as Fuertes, please let us know.
>
> --Dave Nutter
>
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 05:14 PM, Christopher Wood 
> wrote:
>
>   Hi everyone,
>
>  I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that
> opinions are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the
> woods Renwick, I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official
> website of Ithaca calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes
> Bird Sanctuary". It describes this both in text and on the map. Given the
> huge contributions that Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the
> official City of Ithaca website and go with calling the 55 acres the
> "Fuertes Sanctuary".
>
>  http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm
>
>
>  Christopher Wood
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Geo Kloppel]

It hardly seems an honor to the memory of Louis Agassiz Fuertes, the Cayuga 
Bird Club's first president, for the eBird team or the city or the authors of 
the waterfront plan to preempt his club's authority regarding the proper name 
of the sanctuary that he dedicated on its behalf as "Renwick Wildwood". If you 
want the name changed, I think you should petition the Cayuga Bird Club.

-Geo Kloppel

On May 13, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Wood  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that 
> opinions are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the 
> woods Renwick, I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official 
> website of Ithaca calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes Bird 
> Sanctuary". It describes this both in text and on the map. Given the huge 
> contributions that Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the official 
> City of Ithaca website and go with calling the 55 acres the "Fuertes 
> Sanctuary". 
> 
> http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm
> 
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Diane Morton]

I have a copy of a booklet called "Stewart Park, Its History, Buildings and
Plantings", published for Earth Day, 1990.
Here is what it says about that tract of land:

"When the future of the park was uncertain, fifty-five acres immediately to
the south were set aside as a bird sanctuary.  Sometime in 1913, the land
was presented to the City of Ithaca by Renwick descendants-- it was the
last significant portion of the 1790 tract to remain in their hands.  The
sanctuary was christened as the "Renwick Wildwood" and maintained by the
Cayuga Bird Club.  The club developed a system of trails and constructed a
concrete arch at the southern entrance in 1917.  These projects were funded
by the city's Board of Public Works, but executed with volunteer labor.
 The president of the club at the time was the artist-naturalist Louis
Agassiz Fuertes.  After his death in 1927, the sanctuary was renamed in his
honor."

So it would seem that either name could be used, with "Fuertes Sanctuary"
dating from 1927.

Diane Morton


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Meena Madhav Haribal wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Now I am curious to know why was it named Renwick Woods? Who was Renwick?
> Must have done something good  to name after him and when was it named? If
> it was named before Fuertes' death Fuertes must have been in agreement with
> that naming,
>
> Curious about the Ithaca history.
>
> Meena
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Meena Haribal
> Ithaca NY 14850
> http://haribal.org/
> http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 10:39 PM
> *To:* Christopher Wood
> *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes
>
>   Yes, Fuertes made great contributions. There's a bronze plaque where a
> sanctuary was created in his honor shortly after his untimely death - the
> area now often called the swan pond. Cayuga Bird Club Historian Jane Graves
> has the documentation of this - contemporary newspaper accounts of the
> plans and fund-raising for that purpose. Websites are notorious for being
> inaccurate, and the City of Ithaca website referring to Renwick Wildwood
> (the name on the concrete arch) as Fuertes Sanctuary is unsubstantiated by
> any historical record that our historian has found so far. Please use the
> correct name, not perpetuate the misnomer. If someone sends you a reference
> to an official renaming of Renwick as Fuertes, please let us know.
>
> --Dave Nutter
>
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 05:14 PM, Christopher Wood 
> wrote:
>
>   Hi everyone,
>
>  I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that
> opinions are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the
> woods Renwick, I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official
> website of Ithaca calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes
> Bird Sanctuary". It describes this both in text and on the map. Given the
> huge contributions that Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the
> official City of Ithaca website and go with calling the 55 acres the
> "Fuertes Sanctuary".
>
>  http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm
>
>
>  Christopher Wood
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Linda Orkin]

If you follow this link to the Cayuga Bird Club newsletter you will be able to 
read one of four articles written by bird club historian Jane Graves this year. 
 She has spent considerable time researching and detailing these facts so that 
the bird club history in Stewart Park could be well understood by us all.

http://www.cayugabirdclub.org/about-us/the-renwick-wildwood-inception-1913--1914

And as Dave Nutter has pointed out, in all of this research there is no record 
or evidence that at any point was a name change from Renwick Wildwood to 
Fuertes Sanctuary ever either proposed or approved. 

For insight into the bird Club's involvement with the actual Fuertes Wildlife 
Sanctuary which we now call the swan pen, read the first of Jane's articles, 
which you can link to directly from this one. 

People should perhaps be encouraged to begin calling the swan pen the Fuertes 
Sanctuary. 

Best
Linda Orkin 
President, Cayuga Bird Club

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Diane Morton  wrote:

> I have a copy of a booklet called "Stewart Park, Its History, Buildings and 
> Plantings", published for Earth Day, 1990.
> Here is what it says about that tract of land:
> 
> "When the future of the park was uncertain, fifty-five acres immediately to 
> the south were set aside as a bird sanctuary.  Sometime in 1913, the land was 
> presented to the City of Ithaca by Renwick descendants-- it was the last 
> significant portion of the 1790 tract to remain in their hands.  The 
> sanctuary was christened as the "Renwick Wildwood" and maintained by the 
> Cayuga Bird Club.  The club developed a system of trails and constructed a 
> concrete arch at the southern entrance in 1917.  These projects were funded 
> by the city's Board of Public Works, but executed with volunteer labor.  The 
> president of the club at the time was the artist-naturalist Louis Agassiz 
> Fuertes.  After his death in 1927, the sanctuary was renamed in his honor."
> 
> So it would seem that either name could be used, with "Fuertes Sanctuary" 
> dating from 1927.
> 
> Diane Morton
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Meena Madhav Haribal  
> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Now I am curious to know why was it named Renwick Woods? Who was Renwick? 
> Must have done something good  to name after him and when was it named? If it 
> was named before Fuertes' death Fuertes must have been in agreement with that 
> naming, 
> 
> Curious about the Ithaca history.
> 
> Meena
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Meena Haribal
> Ithaca NY 14850
> http://haribal.org/
> http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
>  
> From: bounce-91398343-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-91398343-3493...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of nutter.d...@me.com 
> [nutter.d...@me.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:39 PM
> To: Christopher Wood
> Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes
> 
> Yes, Fuertes made great contributions. There's a bronze plaque where a 
> sanctuary was created in his honor shortly after his untimely death - the 
> area now often called the swan pond. Cayuga Bird Club Historian Jane Graves 
> has the documentation of this - contemporary newspaper accounts of the plans 
> and fund-raising for that purpose. Websites are notorious for being 
> inaccurate, and the City of Ithaca website referring to Renwick Wildwood (the 
> name on the concrete arch) as Fuertes Sanctuary is unsubstantiated by any 
> historical record that our historian has found so far. Please use the correct 
> name, not perpetuate the misnomer. If someone sends you a reference to an 
> official renaming of Renwick as Fuertes, please let us know. 
> --Dave Nutter
> 
> On May 13, 2013, at 05:14 PM, Christopher Wood  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that 
>> opinions are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the 
>> woods Renwick, I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official 
>> website of Ithaca calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes Bird 
>> Sanctuary". It describes this both in text and on the map. Given the huge 
>> contributions that Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the official 
>> City of Ithaca website and go with calling the 55 acres the "Fuertes 
>> Sanctuary". 
>> 
>> http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher Wood
>> eBird Project Leader
>> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
>> http://ebird.org
>> http://birds.cornell.edu
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me about the names. Now I think I would 
like to vote for a new name and call it “OWL WOODS” which seems more 
appropriate instead of naming by a human name. They have been owners of the 
woods for now long time.

Meena

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[mailto:bounce-91566342-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:35 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

It hardly seems an honor to the memory of Louis Agassiz Fuertes, the Cayuga 
Bird Club's first president, for the eBird team or the city or the authors of 
the waterfront plan to preempt his club's authority regarding the proper name 
of the sanctuary that he dedicated on its behalf as "Renwick Wildwood". If you 
want the name changed, I think you should petition the Cayuga Bird Club.

-Geo Kloppel

On May 13, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Wood 
mailto:chris.w...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I know this issue has been discussed many times before and I know that opinions 
are divided. For every email I get that says we should call the woods Renwick, 
I get three that say we should call it Fuertes. The official website of Ithaca 
calls the 55 acres south of Stewart Park the "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary". It 
describes this both in text and on the map. Given the huge contributions that 
Fuertes made, we (eBird) are happy to follow the official City of Ithaca 
website and go with calling the 55 acres the "Fuertes Sanctuary".

http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm


Christopher Wood
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Cornell Lab of Ornithology
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Linda Orkin]

Thank you Jeff. I very much appreciate this first hand account and
confirmation of what we have researched also.

Hope you can come up here and bird again sometime. You could lead a walk at
Renwick in celebration of the Cayuga Bird Club's 100  years.

Best,
Linda Orkin


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jeff Nulle  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm president of the Linnaean Society of New York, and I grew up in Ithaca
> and started birding with Arthur Allen and the other Cornell bird walk
> leaders in 1951 in a place that was never called anything other than
> Renwick Sanctuary.
> Best,
> Geoffrey Nulle
>
> --- On *Tue, 5/14/13, Linda Orkin * wrote:
>
>
> From: Linda Orkin 
>
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes
> To: "Diane Morton" 
> Cc: "Meena Madhav Haribal" , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" <
> cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 11:41 AM
>
>
> If you follow this link to the Cayuga Bird Club newsletter you will be
> able to read one of four articles written by bird club historian Jane Graves
> this year.  She has spent considerable time researching and detailing these
> facts so that the bird club history in Stewart Park could be well
> understood by us all.
>
>
> http://www.cayugabirdclub.org/about-us/the-renwick-wildwood-inception-1913--1914
>
> And as Dave Nutter has pointed out, in all of this research there is no
> record or evidence that at any point was a name change from Renwick
> Wildwood to Fuertes Sanctuary ever either proposed or approved.
>
> For insight into the bird Club's involvement with the actual Fuertes
> Wildlife Sanctuary which we now call the swan pen, read the first of Jane's
> articles, which you can link to directly from this one.
>
> People should perhaps be encouraged to begin calling the swan pen the
> Fuertes Sanctuary.
>
> Best
> Linda Orkin
> President, Cayuga Bird Club
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Diane Morton 
> http://mc/compose?to=dianegmor...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I have a copy of a booklet called "Stewart Park, Its History, Buildings
> and Plantings", published for Earth Day, 1990.
> Here is what it says about that tract of land:
>
> "When the future of the park was uncertain, fifty-five acres immediately
> to the south were set aside as a bird sanctuary.  Sometime in 1913, the
> land was presented to the City of Ithaca by Renwick descendants-- it was
> the last significant portion of the 1790 tract to remain in their hands.
>  The sanctuary was christened as the "Renwick Wildwood" and maintained by
> the Cayuga Bird Club.  The club developed a system of trails and
> constructed a concrete arch at the southern entrance in 1917.  These
> projects were funded by the city's Board of Public Works, but executed with
> volunteer labor.  The president of the club at the time was the
> artist-naturalist Louis Agassiz Fuertes.  After his death in 1927, the
> sanctuary was renamed in his honor."
>
> So it would seem that either name could be used, with "Fuertes Sanctuary"
> dating from 1927.
>
> Diane Morton
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Meena Madhav Haribal 
> http://mc/compose?to=m...@cornell.edu>
> > wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>
> Now I am curious to know why was it named Renwick Woods? Who was Renwick?
> Must have done something good  to name after him and when was it named? If
> it was named before Fuertes' death Fuertes must have been in agreement with
> that naming,
>
> Curious about the Ithaca history.
>
> Meena
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Meena Haribal
> Ithaca NY 14850
> http://haribal.org/
> http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
>
>  --
> *From:* 
> bounce-91398343-3493...@list.cornell.edu<http://mc/compose?to=bounce-91398343-3493...@list.cornell.edu>[
> bounce-91398343-3493...@list.cornell.edu<http://mc/compose?to=bounce-91398343-3493...@list.cornell.edu>]
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> nutter.d...@me.com <http://mc/compose?to=nutter.d...@me.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 10:39 PM
> *To:* Christopher Wood
> *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes
>
>   Yes, Fuertes made great contributions. There's a bronze plaque where a
> sanctuary was created in his honor shortly after his untimely death - the
> area now often called the swan pond. Cayuga Bird Club Historian Jane Graves
> has the documentation of this - contemporary newspaper accounts of the
> plans and fund-raising for that purpose. Websites are notorious for being
> inaccurate,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Suan Hsi Yong]

If you buy a map of Ithaca, you see those woods clearly marked as
Fuertes Bird Sanctuary.
However it came to pass, Fuertes is the de facto name of those woods
as far as the city and population is concerned.

Jane's fine articles and research show that this is erroneous (I
assume due to a clerical error or some such), but "the truth" is
irrelevant if we don't do something about it (e.g., make corrections
in the city records, publicize the matter more widely, etc.).

I think the important question is: do we want to do anything about it?
Getting it "right" may be an uphill battle for minimal gain, causing
nothing but confusion along the way. Maybe it's just best and easiest
to stick with the "wrong" name.

Speaking pragmatically, one might consider the potential impact on
conservation of both the wildwoods and the swan pen. Both places look
to many people like messy unkempt places that could benefit from being
replaced by nice neat gardens or apartment buildings (I'd like to
think this is less true of Ithacans -- but remember the clearing of
Salt Point a few years back? It only takes a few ill-informed people
in power to make huge mistakes). Does attaching the Fuertes name carry
more weight with potential conservation discussions in the future?
Which parcel needs it more?

The swan pen looks messier, and the boathouse (which I guess was
slated to house a birding museum) is in bad disrepair. After reading
about this "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary" last fall, I *ahem* may or may not
have snuck upstairs to the balcony of that building, to be amazed by
the view it gave of the ponds -- it's a fantastic spot for birding.
But the floors are uneven, the wood looks weak and on the verge of
collapse, and I assume the boat club blocks off that stairway for
safety reasons. (Which is to say -- don't go upstairs; and if you do
and fall, don't sue me or the boat club :-D). Sooner or later we'll be
faced with having to do something about that building, and that could
impact the future state of the swan pen a.k.a. the "real" Fuertes Bird
Sanctuary.

Suan

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Chris Proulx]

Hi all,

Just a quick note to add more context.

The City and the private group, The Friends of Stewart Park, have been
awarded a grant to make some renovations to the Boat House that would allow
limited use of the second floor.  Additional grants will likely be applied
for to further restore the Boat House.
http://www.ithaca.com/news/article_7538462a-5fe9-11e2-84aa-001a4bcf887a.html

The Friends may have a long-term plan for further improvements to the Swan
Pen.
http://friendsofstewartpark.org/

The larger, "unkempt" Bird Sanctuary is considered a Natural Area by the
City and therefore received minimal maintenance as opposed to parkland.
Although certainly the trails could be maintained by volunteers like they
are in Six Mile Creek or as the Cayuga Trails Club does on other areas
around the County.

 -Chris

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City of Ithaca
cpro...@cityofithaca.org


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Suan Hsi Yong  wrote:

> If you buy a map of Ithaca, you see those woods clearly marked as
> Fuertes Bird Sanctuary.
> However it came to pass, Fuertes is the de facto name of those woods
> as far as the city and population is concerned.
>
> Jane's fine articles and research show that this is erroneous (I
> assume due to a clerical error or some such), but "the truth" is
> irrelevant if we don't do something about it (e.g., make corrections
> in the city records, publicize the matter more widely, etc.).
>
> I think the important question is: do we want to do anything about it?
> Getting it "right" may be an uphill battle for minimal gain, causing
> nothing but confusion along the way. Maybe it's just best and easiest
> to stick with the "wrong" name.
>
> Speaking pragmatically, one might consider the potential impact on
> conservation of both the wildwoods and the swan pen. Both places look
> to many people like messy unkempt places that could benefit from being
> replaced by nice neat gardens or apartment buildings (I'd like to
> think this is less true of Ithacans -- but remember the clearing of
> Salt Point a few years back? It only takes a few ill-informed people
> in power to make huge mistakes). Does attaching the Fuertes name carry
> more weight with potential conservation discussions in the future?
> Which parcel needs it more?
>
> The swan pen looks messier, and the boathouse (which I guess was
> slated to house a birding museum) is in bad disrepair. After reading
> about this "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary" last fall, I *ahem* may or may not
> have snuck upstairs to the balcony of that building, to be amazed by
> the view it gave of the ponds -- it's a fantastic spot for birding.
> But the floors are uneven, the wood looks weak and on the verge of
> collapse, and I assume the boat club blocks off that stairway for
> safety reasons. (Which is to say -- don't go upstairs; and if you do
> and fall, don't sue me or the boat club :-D). Sooner or later we'll be
> faced with having to do something about that building, and that could
> impact the future state of the swan pen a.k.a. the "real" Fuertes Bird
> Sanctuary.
>
> Suan
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[nutter.dave]

What can or should be done to educate the public, now that we know that Fuertes' name was attached to the swan pond area, not the woods south of Stewart Park? * Website: It ought to be easy to get the City of Ithaca Website changed from Fuertes to Renwick. * Arch: As part of the Cayuga Bird Club centennial we could repair or at least paint the arch to cover the graffiti and accentuate the original lettering. * Signage: The Cayuga Waterfront Trail Initiative and Cayuga Bird Club are designing kiosks about birding for Stewart Park and the adjacent woods. Rick Manning, Linda Orkin, Jane Graves, Lynn Leopold, and I have been working on this. Planned locations include on the boardwalk between the suspension bridges, near the swan pond, and along the lakeshore (perhaps more than one spot, or perhaps just one a short distance east of the swan pond). There are apt to be some place names on the panels which will spread the word on what to call them. We plan to include historical information about how these areas were saved, geographical and ecological information about why they are great places for birds and birding, information about and pictures of some of the birds we find there, and information about the habitats they use and need, so that those habitats will be appreciated. Some habitat features which I think are in particular need of appreciation & education include: * Thickets: shrubs which reach the ground to meet ground plants below, and fruiting vines above: In the past few years nearly all shrubs in Stewart Park have bottomed out and wood chips put below. The result is a dearth of sparrows in most of the park, and Northern Mockingbirds are pretty much gone. I think the people who view parks as places only for lawn with discrete trees would love to clean up the swan pond area entirely (you may have noticed that the path has been greatly widened and straightened in the last few months), so I want to emphasize its habitat features which give birds cover and food. I think it's worth pointing out that the swan pond area is a bird sanctuary, even though it now serves different species than in the original plan. * Logs along the shore and in the water: Driftwood accumulation is a natural process which has been going on at the head of Cayuga Lake since the last glacier retreated and the first trees returned, and it's not about to stop. The City can spend lots of money and energy fighting it, as they did a few years ago by hauling out and grinding every log they could get ahold of during winter's low water. There are still calls for hauling away logs and weed-whacking the shoreline. Or perhaps more people can be shown to appreciate the beauty and the wildlife they serve. The logs provide (photogenic) resting places for numerous species of water birds along the shore and out in the lake while protecting the shoreline from erosion. And the shoreline plants serve as cover for additional foraging species. Similarly the silt and aquatic plants along the shore can attract some incredible shorebirds in the fall.* Undisturbed shoreline: The more people walk along every stretch of shoreline, the fewer species of birds we have. In recent years the north end of Renwick has had a path formalized, and the shore has been used by more anglers. As a result it's getting harder to see Wood Ducks, Green Herons, and even Great Blue Herons which used to use the lagoon and the Renwick side of its shoreline tolerating people in Stewart Park proper. I think it's important to leave stretches of shoreline planted and less inviting to people walking, while a few access points and viewing areas can serve people's desire for access to the water and the views of birds as well as general beauty.* Snags and nest holes: Not every tree with a hole in it is dangerous, and not every dead tree is in a bad spot. They are worth appreciating and keeping whenever possible. It would be interesting to display a collection of photos of cool birds perched on snags around Stewart Park - Bald Eagles, Peregrine Falcons, Merlins, Ospreys, Double-crested Cormorants... For that matter maybe there should just be a website devoted to photos of birds at Stewart Park so people can get a sense of what we've found here.* Goose habitat: The more lawn for grazing and easy access to the shore, the more the Canada Geese have loved Stewart Park and defecated on it. There used to be more little hedges blocking the march of the geese. I think the resident geese serve an interesting birding function in that they attract rarities in passage and wounded birds after hunting, but I don't think we need so many Canadas. At any rate I think the public should be aware of where the geese came from (the rare midwestern maximus race now thoroughly saved from extinction) and the habitats which attract them. And I think there are ways to diversify Stewart Park's habitats and bird life which would reduce the goose-crap problem. The Cascadilla Boathouse is owned by the City but used by the C

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Randolph Scott Little]

On May 14, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Diane Morton 
http://mc/compose?to=dianegmor...@gmail.com>>

wrote:

I have a copy of a booklet called "Stewart Park, Its History, Buildings
and Plantings", published for Earth Day, 1990.
Here is what it says about that tract of land:

"When the future of the park was uncertain, fifty-five acres immediately
to the south were set aside as a bird sanctuary.  Sometime in 1913, the
land was presented to the City of Ithaca by Renwick descendants-- it was
the last significant portion of the 1790 tract to remain in their hands.
 The sanctuary was christened as the "Renwick Wildwood" and maintained by
the Cayuga Bird Club.  The club developed a system of trails and
constructed a concrete arch at the southern entrance in 1917.  These
projects were funded by the city's Board of Public Works, but executed 
with

volunteer labor.  The president of the club at the time was the
artist-naturalist Louis Agassiz Fuertes.  After his death in 1927, the
sanctuary was renamed in his honor."

So it would seem that either name could be used, with "Fuertes Sanctuary"
dating from 1927.

Diane Morton


It was six years after his death, more specifically June 1933, that the 
sanctuary was renamed in Fuertes' honor.
And this re-naming was done by your very same Cayuga Bird Club in 
conjunction with the Ithaca Rotary Club.
(See Boynton, Mary Fuertes. 1956. p.308. "Louis Agassiz Fuertes", Oxford 
Univ. Press, New York.)


Good birding,
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Linda Orkin]

On my way to the library right now to get this book. Would be nice to get
the definitive answer. I am not invested in this one way or the other, just
want to get it right.

Linda Orkin

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Randolph Scott Little  wrote:

> On May 14, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Diane Morton > /mc/compose?to=dianegmorton@**gmail.com
>> >>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a copy of a booklet called "Stewart Park, Its History, Buildings
>> and Plantings", published for Earth Day, 1990.
>> Here is what it says about that tract of land:
>>
>> "When the future of the park was uncertain, fifty-five acres immediately
>> to the south were set aside as a bird sanctuary.  Sometime in 1913, the
>> land was presented to the City of Ithaca by Renwick descendants-- it was
>> the last significant portion of the 1790 tract to remain in their hands.
>>  The sanctuary was christened as the "Renwick Wildwood" and maintained by
>> the Cayuga Bird Club.  The club developed a system of trails and
>> constructed a concrete arch at the southern entrance in 1917.  These
>> projects were funded by the city's Board of Public Works, but executed
>> with
>> volunteer labor.  The president of the club at the time was the
>> artist-naturalist Louis Agassiz Fuertes.  After his death in 1927, the
>> sanctuary was renamed in his honor."
>>
>> So it would seem that either name could be used, with "Fuertes Sanctuary"
>> dating from 1927.
>>
>> Diane Morton
>>
>
> It was six years after his death, more specifically June 1933, that the
> sanctuary was renamed in Fuertes' honor.
> And this re-naming was done by your very same Cayuga Bird Club in
> conjunction with the Ithaca Rotary Club.
> (See Boynton, Mary Fuertes. 1956. p.308. "Louis Agassiz Fuertes", Oxford
> Univ. Press, New York.)
>
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>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick versus Fuertes

[Linda Orkin]

A final word on this for now, and then I think we should lay this topic to
rest as we wait for some in progress research as to when the city
erroneously changed Renwick Wildwood to Fuertes.

Randy's lead sounded promising but I now have that book in hand and here I
quote:

"The Louis Agassiz Fuertes Wildlife Sanctuary at Stewart Park, just south
of Cayuga Lake, was a project of the Cayuga Bird Club and the Ithaca Rotary
Club, made ready for the birds and the public in June, 1933"

This "wildlife sanctuary" is the area that we now all call the swan pen.
That is where the bronze signs are.  This is what we already knew. It does
not refer to the woods.

The booklet that Diane references has many inaccuracies including acreage,
funding sources etc. So it is not a reliable reference.

As I say, we are checking to discover the source of the original error on
city documents and sites.

But since we are positive the swan pen is the Fuertes Wildlife Sanctuary,
and if we are serious about including Fuertes's name in our descriptions
as an honor to him, of where we are birding, let's at least use this
correctly.

Linda


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Randolph Scott Little  wrote:

> On May 14, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Diane Morton > /mc/compose?to=dianegmorton@**gmail.com
>> >>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a copy of a booklet called "Stewart Park, Its History, Buildings
>> and Plantings", published for Earth Day, 1990.
>> Here is what it says about that tract of land:
>>
>> "When the future of the park was uncertain, fifty-five acres immediately
>> to the south were set aside as a bird sanctuary.  Sometime in 1913, the
>> land was presented to the City of Ithaca by Renwick descendants-- it was
>> the last significant portion of the 1790 tract to remain in their hands.
>>  The sanctuary was christened as the "Renwick Wildwood" and maintained by
>> the Cayuga Bird Club.  The club developed a system of trails and
>> constructed a concrete arch at the southern entrance in 1917.  These
>> projects were funded by the city's Board of Public Works, but executed
>> with
>> volunteer labor.  The president of the club at the time was the
>> artist-naturalist Louis Agassiz Fuertes.  After his death in 1927, the
>> sanctuary was renamed in his honor."
>>
>> So it would seem that either name could be used, with "Fuertes Sanctuary"
>> dating from 1927.
>>
>> Diane Morton
>>
>
> It was six years after his death, more specifically June 1933, that the
> sanctuary was renamed in Fuertes' honor.
> And this re-naming was done by your very same Cayuga Bird Club in
> conjunction with the Ithaca Rotary Club.
> (See Boynton, Mary Fuertes. 1956. p.308. "Louis Agassiz Fuertes", Oxford
> Univ. Press, New York.)
>
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3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html

Please submit your observations to eBird:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/

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