Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Gary Zhu]

anyone interested in buying full voice lab? I am selling mine.

On 01/05/2013, at 12:31, Robert Thomas  wrote:

> 
> Thanks for the Advise.  CCIE salary expectations vary on time and they also 
> vary on Geography. 
> 
> Currently a CCNP in CR (Costa Rica) makes somewhere 25K a year. (Yeah we are 
> cheap, perhaps not as cheap as India) and a CCIE makes somewhere aroun 50K a 
> year. You can leave pretty decently on this country anywhere above the 20K. 
> 
> I'm planning to buy the whole Routers, Switch, PVDM2 and so on, just like the 
> lab. Perhaps I might skip over the 4ESW modules. 
> 
> For the server I'm planning to use my good old I7, 24GB RAM Desktop, that has 
> suite me well. 
> 
> Eventhoug Cisco refresh to CUCM and go ballistic, with a 2 Cluster Setup and 
> multiple products, I don't think they will go beyond the 32GB ball park. 
> Specially looking at the UCS TRC, and the B6K, so people have equipment to 
> play with. 
> 
> One of the factor cost is shipping large stuff, like servers became a 
> logistic hassle. Routers and SW, and small parts are easy to "transit" 
> through customs. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem 
>  wrote:
>> Also , It's good to mention that if you've decided to wait for a new version.
>> You have to wait for a very long time at least a year after the new version 
>> released.
>> As  you must wait for a new workbook versions as well as you need to consult 
>> people who took and passed the new version so that will never be in a couple 
>> of months and you talkin' at least a year for things to get cleared to you 
>> if you will wait for a new version so you talkin' about 2 years from now to 
>> make your first attempt.
>> I see go ahead look for the equipment right this minute , Practice and Study 
>> and good luck
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 April 2013 19:12, Hesham Abdelkereem  wrote:
>>> Robert,
>>> 
>>> Robert my good advice for you.
>>> But the lab with the highest end Server something like DELL POWER EDGE V3 
>>> which has 64 gb rams and 4 TB hard drives the server will be valid for any 
>>> other application you want.
>>> CUCM Cluster V9 , Microsoft Server 2012 , Exchange 2013 and LYNC 2013.
>>> Make sure your server is powerful in the first place and that will not cost 
>>> you more than $950 from ebay.com.
>>> For the routers and switches If you bought it as components and you would 
>>> like to sell it as component it will still sell slightly more or less than 
>>> the price you get.
>>> I see don't hesitate just buy your homelab nowadays from ebay.com and Never 
>>> give up.
>>> If you have only this year for this current version then keep calm and 
>>> carry on.
>>> Study and If you didn't pass schedule a test every 30 days exactly till the 
>>> abolishment date.
>>> You will find a spot somewhere for sure whether in SJC , RTP , Europe , 
>>> Dubai and it worth to travel if needed.
>>> We have to struggle for something which will give us the lifeline and CCIE 
>>> is a big lifeline for many people not necessarily R/S as it lost it's value 
>>> in the market already but CCIE Voice is unique and demanded and if you 
>>> invested 20K for lab equipment , lab attempts , workbooks and etc. believe 
>>> me you will get compensated right away as soon as you achieve it.
>>> If you value in the market now 80K - 120K with your current experience + 
>>> CCVP then when you become CCIE V you will get a job for 150K or 150K+ then 
>>> its worth it its lifetime investment do it mate.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hesham
>>> 
>>> On 30 April 2013 18:35, Bill Lake  wrote:
 I know this can be true.  When I took my lab, another version was updating 
 and I talked to one of the guys taking it.  he said that all the seats 
 were full for the next 6 weeks.  So if he did not pass, he most likely 
 would not get another chance.  Not sure what people do, book extra labs 
 just in case?  Then what do you do with the extra one if you pass?  Oh 
 well, don't have to worry about that.
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Robert Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean I 
> think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...
> 
> Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the 
> field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers. 
> 
> The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone is 
> going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the 
> year. 
> 
> Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months from 
>> then to pass your lab.
>> 
>> My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time 
>> then go for it.  

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Robert Thomas]

Thanks for the Advise.  CCIE salary expectations vary on time and they also
vary on Geography.

Currently a CCNP in CR (Costa Rica) makes somewhere 25K a year. (Yeah we
are cheap, perhaps not as cheap as India) and a CCIE makes somewhere aroun
50K a year. You can leave pretty decently on this country anywhere above
the 20K.

I'm planning to buy the whole Routers, Switch, PVDM2 and so on, just like
the lab. Perhaps I might skip over the 4ESW modules.

For the server I'm planning to use my good old I7, 24GB RAM Desktop, that
has suite me well.

Eventhoug Cisco refresh to CUCM and go ballistic, with a 2 Cluster Setup
and multiple products, I don't think they will go beyond the 32GB ball
park. Specially looking at the UCS TRC, and the B6K, so people have
equipment to play with.

One of the factor cost is shipping large stuff, like servers became a
logistic hassle. Routers and SW, and small parts are easy to
"transit" through customs.









On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
heshamcentr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also , It's good to mention that if you've decided to wait for a new
> version.
> You have to wait for a very long time at least a year after the new
> version released.
> As  you must wait for a new workbook versions as well as you need to
> consult people who took and passed the new version so that will never be in
> a couple of months and you talkin' at least a year for things to get
> cleared to you if you will wait for a new version so you talkin' about 2
> years from now to make your first attempt.
> I see go ahead look for the equipment right this minute , Practice and
> Study and good luck
>
>
> On 30 April 2013 19:12, Hesham Abdelkereem wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> Robert my good advice for you.
>> But the lab with the highest end Server something like DELL POWER EDGE V3
>> which has 64 gb rams and 4 TB hard drives the server will be valid for any
>> other application you want.
>> CUCM Cluster V9 , Microsoft Server 2012 , Exchange 2013 and LYNC 2013.
>> Make sure your server is powerful in the first place and that will not
>> cost you more than $950 from ebay.com.
>> For the routers and switches If you bought it as components and you would
>> like to sell it as component it will still sell slightly more or less than
>> the price you get.
>> I see don't hesitate just buy your homelab nowadays from ebay.com and
>> Never give up.
>> If you have only this year for this current version then keep calm and
>> carry on.
>> Study and If you didn't pass schedule a test every 30 days exactly till
>> the abolishment date.
>> You will find a spot somewhere for sure whether in SJC , RTP , Europe ,
>> Dubai and it worth to travel if needed.
>> We have to struggle for something which will give us the lifeline and
>> CCIE is a big lifeline for many people not necessarily R/S as it lost it's
>> value in the market already but CCIE Voice is unique and demanded and if
>> you invested 20K for lab equipment , lab attempts , workbooks and etc.
>> believe me you will get compensated right away as soon as you achieve it.
>> If you value in the market now 80K - 120K with your current experience +
>> CCVP then when you become CCIE V you will get a job for 150K or 150K+ then
>> its worth it its lifetime investment do it mate.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hesham
>>
>> On 30 April 2013 18:35, Bill Lake  wrote:
>>
>>> I know this can be true.  When I took my lab, another version was
>>> updating and I talked to one of the guys taking it.  he said that all the
>>> seats were full for the next 6 weeks.  So if he did not pass, he most
>>> likely would not get another chance.  Not sure what people do, book extra
>>> labs just in case?  Then what do you do with the extra one if you pass?  Oh
>>> well, don't have to worry about that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>>>

 Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean
 I think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...

 Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the
 field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers.

 The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone
 is going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the
 year.

 Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots






 On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:

> If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months
> from then to pass your lab.
>
> My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time
> then go for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be
> better off waiting to see.
>
>  My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if
> you spread it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.
>
> Sent from my iPad

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Hesham Abdelkereem]

Also , It's good to mention that if you've decided to wait for a new
version.
You have to wait for a very long time at least a year after the new version
released.
As  you must wait for a new workbook versions as well as you need to
consult people who took and passed the new version so that will never be in
a couple of months and you talkin' at least a year for things to get
cleared to you if you will wait for a new version so you talkin' about 2
years from now to make your first attempt.
I see go ahead look for the equipment right this minute , Practice and
Study and good luck


On 30 April 2013 19:12, Hesham Abdelkereem  wrote:

> Robert,
>
> Robert my good advice for you.
> But the lab with the highest end Server something like DELL POWER EDGE V3
> which has 64 gb rams and 4 TB hard drives the server will be valid for any
> other application you want.
> CUCM Cluster V9 , Microsoft Server 2012 , Exchange 2013 and LYNC 2013.
> Make sure your server is powerful in the first place and that will not
> cost you more than $950 from ebay.com.
> For the routers and switches If you bought it as components and you would
> like to sell it as component it will still sell slightly more or less than
> the price you get.
> I see don't hesitate just buy your homelab nowadays from ebay.com and
> Never give up.
> If you have only this year for this current version then keep calm and
> carry on.
> Study and If you didn't pass schedule a test every 30 days exactly till
> the abolishment date.
> You will find a spot somewhere for sure whether in SJC , RTP , Europe ,
> Dubai and it worth to travel if needed.
> We have to struggle for something which will give us the lifeline and CCIE
> is a big lifeline for many people not necessarily R/S as it lost it's value
> in the market already but CCIE Voice is unique and demanded and if you
> invested 20K for lab equipment , lab attempts , workbooks and etc. believe
> me you will get compensated right away as soon as you achieve it.
> If you value in the market now 80K - 120K with your current experience +
> CCVP then when you become CCIE V you will get a job for 150K or 150K+ then
> its worth it its lifetime investment do it mate.
>
> Thanks,
> Hesham
>
> On 30 April 2013 18:35, Bill Lake  wrote:
>
>> I know this can be true.  When I took my lab, another version was
>> updating and I talked to one of the guys taking it.  he said that all the
>> seats were full for the next 6 weeks.  So if he did not pass, he most
>> likely would not get another chance.  Not sure what people do, book extra
>> labs just in case?  Then what do you do with the extra one if you pass?  Oh
>> well, don't have to worry about that.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean
>>> I think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...
>>>
>>> Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the
>>> field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers.
>>>
>>> The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone
>>> is going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the
>>> year.
>>>
>>> Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
 If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months
 from then to pass your lab.

 My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time
 then go for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be
 better off waiting to see.

  My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if
 you spread it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Mendoza 
 wrote:

 Did you know the official date for new version?

 I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013

 Best Regards

 AA Mendoza
 Sent from my iPhone 

 On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
 It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.

 However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live
 for announcement about the new version.

 I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone
 models like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.

 However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the
 exam.

 I would appreciate your opinions on this.

 --
 Robert Thomas Zamora
 tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
 http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
 CCNP, CCNP Voice

 ___
 For more information regarding industry leading CCIE

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Abel ...]

The system only allow one booking per time.
On Apr 30, 2013 10:02 PM, "Bill Lake"  wrote:

> I know this can be true.  When I took my lab, another version was updating
> and I talked to one of the guys taking it.  he said that all the seats were
> full for the next 6 weeks.  So if he did not pass, he most likely would not
> get another chance.  Not sure what people do, book extra labs just in
> case?  Then what do you do with the extra one if you pass?  Oh well, don't
> have to worry about that.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>
>>
>> Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean I
>> think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...
>>
>> Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the
>> field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers.
>>
>> The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone is
>> going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the
>> year.
>>
>> Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>
>>> If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months from
>>> then to pass your lab.
>>>
>>> My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time
>>> then go for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be
>>> better off waiting to see.
>>>
>>>  My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if you
>>> spread it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Mendoza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you know the official date for new version?
>>>
>>> I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> AA Mendoza
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>
>>> On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
>>> It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.
>>>
>>> However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live
>>> for announcement about the new version.
>>>
>>> I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models
>>> like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.
>>>
>>> However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the
>>> exam.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate your opinions on this.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Robert Thomas Zamora
>>> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
>>> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
>>> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>>>
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>>
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert Thomas Zamora
>> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
>> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
>> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>>
>
>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>
___
For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit 
www.ipexpert.com

Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out 
www.PlatinumPlacement.com

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Hesham Abdelkereem]

Robert,

Robert my good advice for you.
But the lab with the highest end Server something like DELL POWER EDGE V3
which has 64 gb rams and 4 TB hard drives the server will be valid for any
other application you want.
CUCM Cluster V9 , Microsoft Server 2012 , Exchange 2013 and LYNC 2013.
Make sure your server is powerful in the first place and that will not cost
you more than $950 from ebay.com.
For the routers and switches If you bought it as components and you would
like to sell it as component it will still sell slightly more or less than
the price you get.
I see don't hesitate just buy your homelab nowadays from ebay.com and Never
give up.
If you have only this year for this current version then keep calm and
carry on.
Study and If you didn't pass schedule a test every 30 days exactly till the
abolishment date.
You will find a spot somewhere for sure whether in SJC , RTP , Europe ,
Dubai and it worth to travel if needed.
We have to struggle for something which will give us the lifeline and CCIE
is a big lifeline for many people not necessarily R/S as it lost it's value
in the market already but CCIE Voice is unique and demanded and if you
invested 20K for lab equipment , lab attempts , workbooks and etc. believe
me you will get compensated right away as soon as you achieve it.
If you value in the market now 80K - 120K with your current experience +
CCVP then when you become CCIE V you will get a job for 150K or 150K+ then
its worth it its lifetime investment do it mate.

Thanks,
Hesham

On 30 April 2013 18:35, Bill Lake  wrote:

> I know this can be true.  When I took my lab, another version was updating
> and I talked to one of the guys taking it.  he said that all the seats were
> full for the next 6 weeks.  So if he did not pass, he most likely would not
> get another chance.  Not sure what people do, book extra labs just in
> case?  Then what do you do with the extra one if you pass?  Oh well, don't
> have to worry about that.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>
>>
>> Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean I
>> think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...
>>
>> Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the
>> field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers.
>>
>> The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone is
>> going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the
>> year.
>>
>> Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>
>>> If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months from
>>> then to pass your lab.
>>>
>>> My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time
>>> then go for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be
>>> better off waiting to see.
>>>
>>>  My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if you
>>> spread it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Mendoza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you know the official date for new version?
>>>
>>> I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> AA Mendoza
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>
>>> On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
>>> It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.
>>>
>>> However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live
>>> for announcement about the new version.
>>>
>>> I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models
>>> like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.
>>>
>>> However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the
>>> exam.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate your opinions on this.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Robert Thomas Zamora
>>> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
>>> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
>>> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>>>
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>>
>>> ___
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert Thomas Zamora
>> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
>> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
>> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>>
>
>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.Pl

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Bill Lake]

I know this can be true.  When I took my lab, another version was updating
and I talked to one of the guys taking it.  he said that all the seats were
full for the next 6 weeks.  So if he did not pass, he most likely would not
get another chance.  Not sure what people do, book extra labs just in
case?  Then what do you do with the extra one if you pass?  Oh well, don't
have to worry about that.


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Robert Thomas  wrote:

>
> Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean I
> think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...
>
> Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the
> field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers.
>
> The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone is
> going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the
> year.
>
> Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:
>
>> If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months from
>> then to pass your lab.
>>
>> My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time then
>> go for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be better
>> off waiting to see.
>>
>>  My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if you
>> spread it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Mendoza  wrote:
>>
>> Did you know the official date for new version?
>>
>> I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> AA Mendoza
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
>> It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.
>>
>> However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live
>> for announcement about the new version.
>>
>> I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models
>> like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.
>>
>> However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the
>> exam.
>>
>> I would appreciate your opinions on this.
>>
>> --
>> Robert Thomas Zamora
>> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
>> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
>> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>>
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>
>> ___
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Robert Thomas Zamora
> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
> CCNP, CCNP Voice
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Robert Thomas]

Eventhough they refresh the HW I don't expect any major changes. I mean I
think people will continue to use 28XX series and PVDM2 for a while...

Most likely they will upgrade to CUCM 8.6, 9 is still too early on the
field.  10 wont be comming out until next year to the customers.

The only thing that concerns me, is if they anounce a change, everyone is
going to book their last attempts and buyout any remaining spots for the
year.

Cisco might go for a refresher just to "increase demand" for spots






On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Bill  wrote:

> If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months from
> then to pass your lab.
>
> My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time then
> go for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be better
> off waiting to see.
>
>  My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if you
> spread it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Mendoza  wrote:
>
> Did you know the official date for new version?
>
> I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013
>
> Best Regards
>
> AA Mendoza
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
> It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.
>
> However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live
> for announcement about the new version.
>
> I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models
> like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.
>
> However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the
> exam.
>
> I would appreciate your opinions on this.
>
> --
> Robert Thomas Zamora
> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Bill]

If they announce a new version in June you will have about 6 months from then 
to pass your lab.

My recommendation from there is if you have plenty of study/lab time then go 
for it.  If you don't and have to squeeze it in then you might be better off 
waiting to see.

 My thought is that 600 to 1200 hours of lab time is needed, more if you spread 
it out and less if you can focus solely on Cisco voice stuff.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Alex Mendoza  wrote:

> Did you know the official date for new version?
> 
> I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> AA Mendoza 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies. 
>> It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list. 
>> 
>> However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live for announcement about 
>> the new version. 
>> 
>> I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models 
>> like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX. 
>> 
>> However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the 
>> exam. 
>> 
>> I would appreciate your opinions on this. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Robert Thomas Zamora
>> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
>> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
>> CCNP, CCNP Voice
>> ___
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> 
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>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Alex Mendoza]

Did you know the official date for new version?

I assume that I'll be ready for Sep/oct 2013

Best Regards

AA Mendoza 
Sent from my iPhone 

On 28/04/2013, at 10:33, Robert Thomas  wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies. 
> It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list. 
> 
> However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live for announcement about 
> the new version. 
> 
> I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models like 
> 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX. 
> 
> However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the exam. 
> 
> I would appreciate your opinions on this. 
> 
> -- 
> Robert Thomas Zamora
> tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
> http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
> CCNP, CCNP Voice
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Leslie Meade]

Speaking of buying a lab I am selling mine..
I passed a few weeks ago and it is sitting idle at home..

Email me if you want to chat further..

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 28, 2013, at 8:52 AM, "Robert Thomas" 
mailto:tho...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.

However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live for announcement about the 
new version.

I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models like 
99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.

However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the exam.

I would appreciate your opinions on this.

--
Robert Thomas Zamora
tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
CCNP, CCNP Voice
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Buying home lab or Waiting for Cisco Live in June

[Robert Thomas]

Hi,

I'm thinking on buying a home lab to start my studies.
It would run around 3K investment according to my amazon shopping list.

However I'm thinking to wait for June and Cisco Live for announcement about
the new version.

I don't expect major changes on the setup, perhaps some new phone models
like 99XX, or 89XX on the phones. And upgrade to the routers 29XX.

However I don't expect major new features from the 29XX roll out on the
exam.

I would appreciate your opinions on this.

-- 
Robert Thomas Zamora
tho...@gmail.com +50689389544
http://cr.linkedin.com/pub/robert-thomas-zamora/29/913/8a8
CCNP, CCNP Voice
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