Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Karen Johnson
Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can help to 
confirm ?




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To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca 
Cc: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; 
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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes.  
On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
My question is :

If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . 
When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or 
gold partnership discount?

 


From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice 
retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM 
If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
Voice/Collaboration CCIE.



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 hi all,
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 Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
 Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Holloway
This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. 

On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 
 My question is :
 
 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . 
 When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or 
 gold partnership discount?
 
 
 From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; 
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; 
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired 
 Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM 
 
 If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.
 
 
 
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  hi all,
  ?
  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
  ?
  Tks
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Abel ...
Yes, it does.


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.cawrote:

 My question is :

 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing
 it . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for
 silver or gold partnership discount?


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 * Subject: * Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
 * Sent: * Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM

   If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.



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  hi all,
  ?
  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
  ?
  Tks
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Karen Johnson
great 




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Yes, it does.
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca 
wrote: 
My question is :If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep 
renewing it . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for 
silver or gold partnership discount? 


From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice 
retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM 
If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
Voice/Collaboration CCIE.



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 Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Wayne Lawson
I have confirmed that your CCIE number will still be valid for a partner - 
through Cisco. 

Regards,
 
Wayne A. Lawson II
Founder  CEO - IPexpert, Proctor Labs,  Platinum, Inc.
 
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 Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can help 
 to confirm ?
 
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 To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca 
 Cc: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
 This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. 
 On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 My question is :
 
 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it 
 . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or 
 gold partnership discount?
 
 From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice 
 retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM
 If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.
 
 
 
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  hi all,
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  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
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  Tks
  K
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Anas Abu Eideh

The issue is related to renaming the CCIE voice itself. Your number for sure 
will be active if you recertify using any one of the written exam.

The issue with this rename, by the time CCIE will become the old school and 
collaboration is the new one. Within one year or two the job vacancies will be 
collaboration.

That means we will lose our investment and reputation.

Unfortunately, this change is a marketing not technical.

Regards
Anas




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Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

I have confirmed that your CCIE number will still be valid for a partner - 
through Cisco.
Regards,

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This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes.
On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson 
karen.johnson...@yahoo.camailto:karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
My question is :

If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . 
When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or gold 
partnership discount?

From: Kamran Ahsanullah 
kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.commailto:kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.commailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 
PM
If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
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Voice/Collaboration CCIE.



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 Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
 Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Vic
Even If the number will still be valid, the CCIE will be almost useless.

The companies and customers will ask, why you did net get CCIE collaboration?

In some Cisco programs, there are special requirements like master UC. One of 
Cisco employee told me that the partner will be Master UC if the partner has at 
least one CCIE Voice, later, it could be one CCIE collaboration and so on

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 To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca 
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 Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
 This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. 
 On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 My question is :
 
 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it 
 . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver 
 or gold partnership discount?
 
 From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice 
 retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM
 If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.
 
 
 
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  hi all,
  ?
  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
  ?
  Tks
  K
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Wayne Lawson
It applies to all. 

Regards,
 
Wayne A. Lawson II
Founder  CEO - IPexpert, Proctor Labs,  Platinum, Inc.
 
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On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

 Wayne:
  
 Thanks for the information. Does this also apply for the Master UC program? 
 This partner certification specifically requires CCIE Voice certified 
 engineers. I would imagine this is going to change at some point in the near 
 future and require Master UC partners to sending their CCIE voice engineers 
 for CCIE Collaboration lab exams. It’d be great to get that confirmed though.
  
 Thanks ahead of time, Wayne!
  
 Daniel Pagan, CCIE #25689
  
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lawson
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 10:51 AM
 To: Karen Johnson
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Kamran Ahsanullah
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
  
 I have confirmed that your CCIE number will still be valid for a partner - 
 through Cisco. 
 
 Regards,
  
 Wayne A. Lawson II
 Founder  CEO - IPexpert, Proctor Labs,  Platinum, Inc.
  
 Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
 eFax: +1.810.454.0130
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 :: Message sent from iPhone 
 
 On Jun 3, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can help 
 to confirm ?
 
  
 From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
 To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca 
 Cc: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
 This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. 
 On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 My question is :
 
 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . 
 When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or 
 gold partnership discount?
 
 From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice 
 retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM
 If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.
 
 
 
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  To: William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com, Martin Sloan
 martinsloa...@gmail.com
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,
 vma...@ipexpert.com vma...@ipexpert.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
  Message-ID:
 1370180403.14208.yahoomail...@web163901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
  hi all,
  ?
  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
  ?
  Tks
  K
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Karen Johnson
Thanks, this what suspected will happen most likely.___
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Vic
You are absolutely right

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Anas Abu Eideh aabuei...@dcgroup.com wrote:

  
 The issue is related to renaming the CCIE voice itself. Your number for sure 
 will be active if you recertify using any one of the written exam.
  
 The issue with this rename, by the time CCIE will become the old school and 
 collaboration is the new one. Within one year or two the job vacancies will 
 be collaboration.
  
 That means we will lose our investment and reputation.
  
 Unfortunately, this change is a marketing not technical.
  
 Regards
 Anas
  
  
  
  
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lawson
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 5:51 PM
 To: Karen Johnson
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Kamran Ahsanullah
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
  
 I have confirmed that your CCIE number will still be valid for a partner - 
 through Cisco. 
 
 Regards,
  
 Wayne A. Lawson II
 Founder  CEO - IPexpert, Proctor Labs,  Platinum, Inc.
  
 Mobile: +1.810.334.1564
 eFax: +1.810.454.0130
 Email: wlaw...@ipexpert.com
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 On Jun 3, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 
 Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can help 
 to confirm ?
 
  
 From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
 To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca 
 Cc: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
 This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. 
 On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 My question is :
 
 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . 
 When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or 
 gold partnership discount?
 
 From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: 
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice 
 retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM
 If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.
 
 
 
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 martinsloa...@gmail.com
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,
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  Message-ID:
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  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
  hi all,
  ?
  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
  ?
  Tks
  K
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-03 Thread Bill Lake
That is good, now what is the value of CCIE ISP Dial when he goes for
another job?  Or how about when a customer asks specifically do you have a
CCIE Collaboration?

There is also a huge difference between the retired CCIE ISP dial and
Voice;  ISP dial is untenable as a CCIE track it has been replaced as a
technology.  CCIE Voice is still exceedingly relevant and is most of the
new CCIE Collaboration, sure you got video but isn't voice part of a
video?  Anyone watching silent movies or making them very often anymore?
Why, because communication or collaboration in general require speech to
supply the best experience.


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Mike mik...@msn.com wrote:

 My friend is a ISP/Dial CCIE and has re-certed on RS written each time
 and his CCIE still counts for his partner and he is listed as “certified”
 under the verification tool.

 ** **

 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Karen Johnson
 *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2013 9:52 AM
 *To:* Mark Holloway
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Kamran Ahsanullah
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

 ** **

 Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can
 help to confirm ?

 

 ** **

 *From:* Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
 *To:* Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca
 *Cc:* Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

 This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes.  

 On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca
 wrote:

 My question is :

 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing
 it . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for
 silver or gold partnership discount?

 *From: *Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; *To: *
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE
 voice retired *Sent: *Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM 

 If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
 CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
 If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
 Voice/Collaboration CCIE.



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  hi all,
  ?
  Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
  Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
  ?
  Tks
  K
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-02 Thread Karen Johnson
hi all,
 
Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when IE voice retired ?
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-02 Thread Kamran Ahsanullah
If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration
CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number.
If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual
Voice/Collaboration CCIE.



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 hi all,
 ?
 Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number.
 Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired??
 ?
 Tks
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired

2013-06-02 Thread Karen Johnson
My question is :

 If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . 
When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or gold 
partnership discount?

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