[OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
All, First an apology - almost immediately after my post last week I left for a short vacation - completely off the grid - backpacking just outside Yosemite (since I was already in CA anyway). It was cathartic but I still woke up in the middle of the night thinking about SIP loads, local RGs, + dialing, etc. Because of this I have been totally unresponsive to e-mails sent to me for the last three days (no 3G there - thankfully). I have received a number of very pertinent questions that do not in any way violate the NDA that I feel should be responded to. I will compile them into a collective response tomorrow and forward to this group - it is the least I can do. If you have questions about lab practice equipment or study materials utilized or other subjects that are non-NDA violating please forward them and I will answer them to the best of my abilities. HTH, Art Sandborgh _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Good luck Sebastien with your result...let us know how you went J From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Pouplin Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 8:15 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3 Hi Folks, I took once the V2 exam 3 months ago and failed, and very recently took the V3 versionbut did not have the result yet! :) V2 in my opinion was asking for too many features and some 'basic' questions like Unity or IPCC integrations were very time consuming. So in the end, you were able to pass only by knowing in advance which exact types of questions will be asked...which is difficult to guess for your 1st attempt! V3 is also time consuming but reasonably fair. I saw it much more realistic from the Voice Enterprise networking perspective. I could finish and complete all the tasks 30 minutes in advance and then test my dial plan. By the way, when taking a CCIE exam I always reboot my rack before leaving, but does someone know if proctors reload your rack before grading ? Now finger crossed...:) Sebastien Pouplin ( CCIE #20409 ) __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email _ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Yeah, I too was surprised by how much time they give you... when you flip through the 27 pages of lab, you think there is no way I am going to have time for this... but you finish and realize you have 2 or 3 hrs left... Not enough time to learn the stuff you didn't know, but enough time to troubleshoot... And since the four questions only take 3 minutes (30 minutes are way too long... if you don't know it, you don't know it, and adding an extra 25 minutes ain't gonna help...) so you get nearly an extra half hour for the lab... Jonathan On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Sebastien Pouplinseb.poup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, I took once the V2 exam 3 months ago and failed, and very recently took the V3 versionbut did not have the result yet! :) V2 in my opinion was asking for too many features and some 'basic' questions like Unity or IPCC integrations were very time consuming. So in the end, you were able to pass only by knowing in advance which exact types of questions will be asked...which is difficult to guess for your 1st attempt! V3 is also time consuming but reasonably fair. I saw it much more realistic from the Voice Enterprise networking perspective. I could finish and complete all the tasks 30 minutes in advance and then test my dial plan. By the way, when taking a CCIE exam I always reboot my rack before leaving, but does someone know if proctors reload your rack before grading ? Now finger crossed...:) Sebastien Pouplin ( CCIE #20409 ) ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
I asked the proctor about rebooting the rack and he said no that they do not. However they do verify that when the wan goes down that failover works per what the lab asks you to do. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Aamir Panjwani aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au wrote: Good luck Sebastien with your result…let us know how you went J From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice- boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Pouplin Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 8:15 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3 Hi Folks, I took once the V2 exam 3 months ago and failed, and very recently took the V3 versionbut did not have the result yet! :) V2 in my opinion was asking for too many features and some 'basic' questions like Unity or IPCC integrations were very time consuming. So in the end, you were able to pass only by knowing in advance which exact types of questions will be asked...which is difficult to guess for your 1st attempt! V3 is also time consuming but reasonably fair. I saw it much more realistic from the Voice Enterprise networking perspective. I could finish and complete all the tasks 30 minutes in advance and then test my dial plan. By the way, when taking a CCIE exam I always reboot my rack before leaving, but does someone know if proctors reload your rack before grading ? Now finger crossed...:) Sebastien Pouplin ( CCIE #20409 ) __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Congratulations... :) On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations man!!! Great job. *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Art Sandborgh *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2009 7:50 PM *To:* ccie list *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3 All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 -- Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. Try it now.http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Art - that's an awesome story - congrats and I'm glad we could help. Be sure to send succ...@ipexpert.com your details - we're shipping out custom, embroidered polo shirts with your name, number and the new CCIE logo! Regards, Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244 Founder President - IPexpert, Inc. Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com Mobile: +1.810.334.1564 :: Message sent from iPhone. On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Art Sandborgh asandbo...@hotmail.com wrote: All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. Try it now. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Congrats Art! On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Wayne Lawson groupst...@ipexpert.comwrote: Art - that's an awesome story - congrats and I'm glad we could help. Be sure to send succ...@ipexpert.com your details - we're shipping out custom, embroidered polo shirts with your name, number and the new CCIE logo! Regards, Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244 Founder President - IPexpert, Inc. Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.comwlaw...@ipexpert.com Mobile: +1.810.334.1564 :: Message sent from iPhone. On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Art Sandborgh asandbo...@hotmail.com wrote: All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 -- Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. Try it now.http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit http://www.ipexpert.comwww.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Congratulations! Earl Hough CCIE #16508 (RS/Security) From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Art Sandborgh Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:50 PM To: ccie list Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3 All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail(r). Try it now. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID2 3391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The information contained in this transmission is confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) or organization(s) to whom it is addressed. Any disclosure, copying or further distribution is not permitted unless such privilege is explicitly granted in writing by SARCOM, Inc. Furthermore, SARCOM, Inc. is not responsible for the proper and complete transmission of the substance of this communication, nor for any delay in its receipt. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Sir, Congrats! Outstanding job.I'm glad to see that you stuck with it and that IPExpert was instrumental in you success. Thomas J Koch Owner/Consultant Digitones, LLC Cell: 630-808-4910 E-mail: digito...@comcast.net _ From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Art Sandborgh Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:50 AM To: ccie list Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3 All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for HotmailR. Try it now. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391 ::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Koch;Thomas FN:Thomas J Koch (digito...@comcast.net) ORG:Digitones, LLC TITLE:Owner/Consultant TEL;CELL;VOICE:(630) 808-4910 TEL;WORK;FAX:(630) 243-8971 ADR;WORK:;;461 Kromray Road;Lemont;IL;60439;United States of America LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:461 Kromray Road=0D=0ALemont, IL 60439=0D=0AUnited States of America EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:digito...@comcast.net REV:20090702T193658Z END:VCARD ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3
Congratulations man!!! Great job. From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Art Sandborgh Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:50 PM To: ccie list Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] My impression of V3 All, First - please do not e-mail or contact me in any way to ask for any further information about the lab. I will NOT respond - you've been warned. I take the NDA very seriously and will not violate it. Second - a little background - this was my attempt #6 - twice on version 1, three times on ver 2. I was not a big fan of V2, but that was my issue apparently as other folks seemed to pass it just fine. as to V3 - I thought it was a very fair (and challenging) test of technical knowledge of the UC7 software and hardware as listed on Cisco.com. I thought the questions were very clearly written and the goals set out attainable. I think that Ben and his team did an OUTSTANDING job re-writing the lab and I give them a standing ovation. There were items on the lab that I did not expect to see and I did leave some points on the table because I had not thoroughly enough prepared for all aspects of all the solution components (my bad). I did not get a personalized letter back from any of the proctors, just a form letter congratulating me for passing - I guess that will have to do. I want to thank IPExpert for the outstanding instruction and matrials and all of the contributors to this forum for the support along the way. Good luck to all - it is attainable, and worth it, even if you do have to go back again and again. Cheers! Art Sandborgh #25081 _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for HotmailR. Try it now. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391 ::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
