[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

2009-01-20 Thread kamal yousaf
Is it possible to preserve calls from Br1 MGCP gateway when it falls back
into SRST mode ? I know calls can be preserved while using H323 gateway but
not using MGCP gateway since L3 binding is terminated from gateway to CCM
when falling back to SRST mode and hence calls cannot be preserved ?

Any thoughts on this.


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

2009-01-20 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
You can not preserve calls from MGCP to SRST.
In the IOS of the code on the lab I dont think you can preserve the calls
from H323 to SRST (even though they are 1 in the same)

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it possible to preserve calls from Br1 MGCP gateway when it falls back
 into SRST mode ? I know calls can be preserved while using H323 gateway but
 not using MGCP gateway since L3 binding is terminated from gateway to CCM
 when falling back to SRST mode and hence calls cannot be preserved ?

 Any thoughts on this.



Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

2009-01-20 Thread kamal yousaf
Using H323 GW to SRST fallback,yes you can in Lab IOS version:

voice service voip
h323
no h225 timeout keepalive
!
For later IOS releases,

voice service voip
h323
call preserve
!

Now coming back to question , If br1 gateway was an MGCP gw, then on
fallback from CCM, calls will be preserved by default.

*
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/cminterop/configuration/guide/vc_ucm_mgcp_gw.html
*http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/cminterop/configuration/guide/vc_ucm_mgcp_gw.html
Benefits of Cisco Unified Communications Manager Switchover and MGCP Gateway
Fallback

•Eliminates a potential single point of failure in the VoIP network by
allowing you to designate up to two backup Cisco Unified Communications
Manager servers. Your MGCP voice gateways can continue working if the
primary Cisco Unified Communications Manager server fails.

•Ensures greater stability in the voice network by preserving existing
connections during a switchover to a backup Cisco Unified Communications
Manager server.

•Prevents call-processing interruptions or dropped calls in the event of a
Cisco Unified Communications Manager or WAN failure.

Rgds
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You can not preserve calls from MGCP to SRST.
 In the IOS of the code on the lab I dont think you can preserve the calls
 from H323 to SRST (even though they are 1 in the same)

 Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it possible to preserve calls from Br1 MGCP gateway when it falls back
 into SRST mode ? I know calls can be preserved while using H323 gateway but
 not using MGCP gateway since L3 binding is terminated from gateway to CCM
 when falling back to SRST mode and hence calls cannot be preserved ?

 Any thoughts on this.





Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

2009-01-20 Thread James Key
Ryan is correct on this.  MGCP PRI backhaul does NOT support call preservation 
when switching to SRST and when rehoming to CCM.  Once the connection is lost 
to CCMs, the D-channel will need to terminate on the gateway, so the backhaul 
is tore down and the D-channel is reset, Call is dropped.  With MGCP analog and 
CAS, calls WILL be maintained.  In the case of Switchover, calls will also be 
preserved.

James Key

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of kamal yousaf 
[lovingprin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:32 PM
To: Ryan Trauernicht
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

Using H323 GW to SRST fallback,yes you can in Lab IOS version:

voice service voip
h323
no h225 timeout keepalive
!
For later IOS releases,

voice service voip
h323
call preserve
!

Now coming back to question , If br1 gateway was an MGCP gw, then on fallback 
from CCM, calls will be preserved by default.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/cminterop/configuration/guide/vc_ucm_mgcp_gw.html
Benefits of Cisco Unified Communications Manager Switchover and MGCP Gateway 
Fallback

•Eliminates a potential single point of failure in the VoIP network by allowing 
you to designate up to two backup Cisco Unified Communications Manager servers. 
Your MGCP voice gateways can continue working if the primary Cisco Unified 
Communications Manager server fails.

•Ensures greater stability in the voice network by preserving existing 
connections during a switchover to a backup Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager server.

•Prevents call-processing interruptions or dropped calls in the event of a 
Cisco Unified Communications Manager or WAN failure.

Rgds

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ryan Trauernicht 
ryanstudyvo...@gmail.commailto:ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com wrote:
You can not preserve calls from MGCP to SRST.

In the IOS of the code on the lab I dont think you can preserve the calls from 
H323 to SRST (even though they are 1 in the same)

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kamal yousaf 
lovingprin...@gmail.commailto:lovingprin...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it possible to preserve calls from Br1 MGCP gateway when it falls back into 
SRST mode ? I know calls can be preserved while using H323 gateway but not 
using MGCP gateway since L3 binding is terminated from gateway to CCM when 
falling back to SRST mode and hence calls cannot be preserved ?

Any thoughts on this.


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

2009-01-20 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
I apologize on the H323.  I stand corrected.  Kamal you are correct on the
H323 preserving calls.
MGCP CM Sub goes down but Pub up call preserved.
MGCP All CMs go down... call dropped

H323 CM Sub goes down but Pub up call preserved.
H323 All CMs go down... call preserved

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:32 PM, James Key j...@jackhenry.com wrote:

  Ryan is correct on this.  MGCP PRI backhaul does NOT support call
 preservation when switching to SRST and when rehoming to CCM.  Once the
 connection is lost to CCMs, the D-channel will need to terminate on the
 gateway, so the backhaul is tore down and the D-channel is reset, Call is
 dropped.  With MGCP analog and CAS, calls WILL be maintained.  In the case
 of Switchover, calls will also be preserved.

 James Key
  --
 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of kamal yousaf [
 lovingprin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:32 PM
 *To:* Ryan Trauernicht
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Preserving calls?

  Using H323 GW to SRST fallback,yes you can in Lab IOS version:

 voice service voip
 h323
 no h225 timeout keepalive
 !
 For later IOS releases,

 voice service voip
 h323
 call preserve
 !

 Now coming back to question , If br1 gateway was an MGCP gw, then on
 fallback from CCM, calls will be preserved by default.

 *
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/cminterop/configuration/guide/vc_ucm_mgcp_gw.html
 *http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/cminterop/configuration/guide/vc_ucm_mgcp_gw.html
  Benefits of Cisco Unified Communications Manager Switchover and MGCP
 Gateway Fallback

 •Eliminates a potential single point of failure in the VoIP network by
 allowing you to designate up to two backup Cisco Unified Communications
 Manager servers. Your MGCP voice gateways can continue working if the
 primary Cisco Unified Communications Manager server fails.

 •Ensures greater stability in the voice network by preserving existing
 connections during a switchover to a backup Cisco Unified Communications
 Manager server.

 •Prevents call-processing interruptions or dropped calls in the event of a
 Cisco Unified Communications Manager or WAN failure.

 Rgds
  On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ryan Trauernicht 
 ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can not preserve calls from MGCP to SRST.
  In the IOS of the code on the lab I dont think you can preserve the
 calls from H323 to SRST (even though they are 1 in the same)

  Thanks,
 Ryan Trauernicht

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it possible to preserve calls from Br1 MGCP gateway when it falls back
 into SRST mode ? I know calls can be preserved while using H323 gateway but
 not using MGCP gateway since L3 binding is terminated from gateway to CCM
 when falling back to SRST mode and hence calls cannot be preserved ?

 Any thoughts on this.



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