[ccp4bb] SUMMARY: suggestions for UV spectrometer

2009-01-22 Thread Tim Gruene
On Dec 4th last year I asked for recommendations for a UV 
spectrophotometer to determine the concentration of protein/ [RD]NA 
samples.


I received an enormous amount of answer emails, both to the board and 
privately and I am trying to summarise them as good as possible.


We finally decided for a GeneQuant 1300 from GE Healthcare 
(http://www4.gelifesciences.com/aptrix/upp01077.nsf/Content/spectrophotometry_site~spectro_meter~spectro_mol_bio~genequant_pro?OpenDocumentparentid=80211498moduleid=167189) 
for the following reasons

- wide wavelength range (190 - 1100 nm, 5nm bandwidth)
- small display to show the spectrum
- built-in (thermo) printer
- no need for a controlling PC
- price about 4,000 Euro
- small enough to be carried between labs
- It can play Tetris (;-)

Following is an attempted summary of all the replies
- most people (the vast majority, actually) advocated the Nanodrop 1000
  (http://www.nanodrop.com/),
  which costs about 10,000 Euro (I believe).
  The main argument was that you only need 1ul and that it was fast.
  Several people pointed out that they found the nanodrop to be
  inaccurate, especially over time and repeating a measuremant would
  produce a considerable variation
  Others liked that you could re-use the sample for it was measured
  undiluted due to the short path length
  Personally I did not like the need of a controlling PC to record the
  measurement

- The Biorad BioPhotometer Plus was in the same price range as the
  GeneQuant (4,000 Euro), but only measures at 9 fixed wavelengths and
  does not have a display to show the measured spectrum.

- The Biorad Smartspec 3000 has got a wavelength range of 200-800nm, and
  only a 2 line matrix display. I don't know the price

- The Beckman Coulter DU-730
 
(http://www.beckman.com/products/instrument/analytical/uvvis/duseries700_inst_dcr.asp)
  was recommended by one person. It seems to
  have similar features (both technically and in measure) as the GeneQuant
  although with a slightliy improved bandwidth (3nm). It includes a
  display that show the spectrum. I don't know how much it costs.

- The Cary 50 (Varian,
 http://www.varianinc.com/cgi-bin/nav?products/spectr/uv/cary50/cary50cid=HFIH)
  was too big for our purposes.

- USB2000+ (Ocean Optics,
  http://www.oceanoptics.com/products/usb2000+.asp) is a low-cost solution
  ( 3000USD) but requires a PC for control to spoil the prive. It also
  covers 200nm-1100nm. The Ocean Optics USB4000 was also recommended once.

- The Shimadzu UV2450 (successor of UV2401)
  (http://www.shimadzu.com/products/lab/spectro/oh80jt001k16.html)
  was again a little too big for our lab since we were looking for a
  protable machine.


I hope, but don't claim this information is complete.

I am grateful to everybody who answered and hope not to disappoint the 
about 90% voters for the Nanodrop system for choosing a different machine.


Tim

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Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] Summary: cryoloops for X-ray data collection from protein crystals at room temperature.

2009-01-22 Thread cedric bauvois
hello all,

I would like to thank everyone for all suggestions.

Summary:

1 - MiTeGen Tools - MicroRT™ Room Temperature Mounting System
   - crystals slipping ? (suggestion of juan: amongst other things, problem
resolved by using micromesh loops instead of using standard loops)
   - uses polyester capillary which scatters xrays less than the glass
   - works quite well
   - everyting is reasonably airtight
   - much easier to do than the old way.

links:
http://www.jenabioscience.com/cms/en/1/catalog/733_microrttrade_room_temperature_mounting_system.html
http://mitegen.com/products/micrort/micrort.shtml

2 - coat the crystal with paratone oil and mount the crystal in a standard
cryoloop
  - no special tools required
  - you can use the same crystal to collect under cryo-conditions and
directly compare the impact of cooling the crystal

3 - the free mounting system (FMS) from Proteros Biostructures: a humidity
control device
- it does not have highly volatile components in the conditions
- room temperature not too difficult

links:
http://www.proteros.com/articles.php?sid=18lang=de
contact: kris.t...@rigaku.com

4 - the humidifier device HC1b
   - developed at the EMBL
   - available at ESRF
   - easy to use

links:
http://www.esrf.eu/UsersAndScience/Experiments/MX/special-setup
technical information: weathe...@embl.fr

5 - test crystal directly on plate

- japan

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2002/10/01/issconts.html
http://www.labo.co.jp/contents/direct_ex.html
contact: nobuh...@nagoya-u.jp

 - France, Grenoble

explanations
http://www.natx-ray.com/products/G-Rob_2D.html
the movie
http://www.natx-ray.com/products/G-Rob_2D_movie.html
a prototype, commercialized by Natx-ray, is available on FIP beamline (
http://www.esrf.eu/exp_facilities/BM30/).*http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/commercialized
*
contact: fer...@ibs.fr

Best regards,
Cédric

-- 
Dr. Cedric Bauvois
Cristallographie des protéines
Institut de Recherches Microbiologiques JM Wiame -IRMW
Av E. Gryzon 1, 1070 Brussels (Belgium)
tél: +32 (0)2 5273634
fax: +32 (0)2 5267273


Re: [ccp4bb] temperature after 30 minutes using microscopes ?

2009-01-22 Thread Sandy, DJ (James)
We have both LED and cold light sources attached to our Zeiss Stemi
microscopes on the beamlines at Diamond. There was some argument about
not using LED lights however the solution from Zeiss is very good
allowing different sections of LEDs to be used which can be moved
around. This allows crystal faces to be specifically highlighted and
makes crystal visualisation simple. 

If you were wanting to take photos of protein crystals I would probably
favour a cold light source though.
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[ccp4bb] ARP/wARP and computer platforms

2009-01-22 Thread Victor Lamzin
We are collecting information on computer platforms that people would 
like ARP/wARP to run on. To access the questionnaire please go to 
http://www.embl-hamburg.de/ARP/platinf_new.shtml


Thank you for your cooperation.

With best regards,
Victor


[ccp4bb] BEAM TIME AVAILABLE FOR MACROMOLECULAR CRYSTALOGRAPHY

2009-01-22 Thread Cyndi Salbego

BEAM TIME AVAILABLE FOR MACROMOLECULAR CRYSTALLOGRAPHY AT THE TWO ID
BEAMLINES OF NE-CAT AT APS.

Beamline 24ID-C: Variable energy between 6-18keV, ADSC Q315 Detector, MAD
Capable.

Beamline 24ID-E: Equipped with MD2 microdiffractometer, delivering beam as
small as 5 microns. Single energy (12662eV), ADSC Q315 Detector.

Contact csalb...@anl.gov for further details.

See http://necat.chem.cornell.edu for information on our beamlines and a 
calendar of available days.


Re: [ccp4bb] Summary: cryoloops for X-ray data collection from protein crystals at room temperature.

2009-01-22 Thread Watanabe Nobuhisa
If you will use the Nextal device, I have also modified it something  
like fig.2 for checking crystals in the drop at room temperature. It  
is not difficult to make, too. Please see,

http://journals.iucr.org/j/issues/2005/02/00/he5324/he5324bdy.html

However, getting the film I have used in the note is not easy. The  
film was SUMILITE FS-1700 film of 50um thickness (Sumitomo Bakelite  
Co. Ltd). I guess I can not get it in small amounts commercially now.  
But you can go with any seal tape if you do not care about background,  
and absorption and permeability of water. Water absorption of the film  
is 0.01% at 313 K, 90% relative humidity, and water vapour  
permeability is only 0.4 g/m2/24h.

http://www.sumibe.co.jp/english/products/pdf/03_10_1700.pdf

I found I did not cite the histric paper in my labo-note...

Nobuhisa Watanabe, PhD.
===
Synchrotron Radiation Research Center
Department of Biotechnology and Biomaterial Chemistry,
Graduate School of Engineering
Nagoya University
C1-3(651) Furo-cho Chikusa-ku, Nagoya 4648603 Japan
Email: nobuh...@nagoya-u.jp  Fax: +81-52-789-5286

On 2009/01/23, at 2:03, James Holton wrote:

Something that is missing from your list is a remarkable device  
pictured as figure 2 in:
Perutz, M. (1985) Early days of protein crystallography. /Methods  
in Enzymology/ *114* 3-18 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=PubMeddopt=Abstractlist_uids=4079771 
.


which is actually a reproduction of figure 5 from:
J. D. Bernal and I. Fankuchen (1941) J. Gen. Physiol., 25, 111-146.

This cell is not difficult to make.  I made one using a plastic ring  
(to replace the brass) glued to an iron nut (to attach to the  
goniometer magnet), a piece of Scotch Tape for the exit window and  
the cover slip from the hanging drop setup of interest as the  
entrance window.  All you do is move the cover slip from the tray to  
the ring and then mount it up.  The excess vacuum grease from the  
tray makes the seal.  Maybe put ~10 uL of well solution on the inner  
edge of the ring before closing it to keep the humidity stable.  The  
background (especially from glass) is high but you have the  
advantage of never touching the crystal before shooting it.  We do  
use this device from time to time at the beamline.


I thought I had invented something new until I saw Perutz's paper.   
It was then that I realized that my invention was one of the FIRST  
mounts ever used to get diffraction from a protein crystal:


J. D. Bernal and D. Crowfoot (1934) Nature (London) 133, 794.


-James Holton
MAD Scientist


[ccp4bb] cbuccanner.exam failed with libFFTW generated by Intel MKL

2009-01-22 Thread Nobuo OKAZAKI
Dear all,

I tried to build CCP4 6.1 with Intel Compiler  Intel Math Kernel
Library(MKL) on Fedora 8. I used MKL as LAPACK and FFTW libraries. The
building processes have been completed successfully, but all tests
passed except cbuccaneer.exam (core dumped).

Log: ---
 % ./cbuccaneer.exam or make runtest
(snip.)
Cycle: 1

 C-alphas after finding:5
 C-alphas after growing:5
./cbuccaneer.exam: line 12: 23479 Aborted cbuccaneer -mtzin-ref 
$CLIBD/reference_structures/reference-1tqw.mtz -pdbin-ref 
$CLIBD/reference_structures/reference-1tqw.pdb -mtzin-wrk 
$CCP4_SCR/toxd_phase_mir_pirate1.mtz -pdbout-wrk $CCP4_SCR/toxd_phase_mir.pdb 
-colin-wrk-fo '/NATIVE/NATIVE/[FTOXD3,SIGFTOXD3]' -colin-wrk-hl 
'/*/*/[pirate.ABCD.A,pirate.ABCD.B,pirate.ABCD.C,pirate.ABCD.D]' -find -grow 
-join -link -prune
(core dumped)
-

In case of compiling with Intel Compiler and default fftw libraries
(bundled by CCP4), building and all test processes passed.

Building process:
 % mkdir ccp4-intel
 % cd ccp4-intel
 % tar xvf CCP4-6.1.0.src.tar   (CCP4 core source package)
 % setenv XLDFLAGS -lmkl -liomp5 -lguide
 % setenv COPTIM -O -ip
 % setenv FFTW_LIBS -lfftw2xc_intel -lmkl -liomp5 -lguide -lpthread
 % setenv FFTW_CXXFLAGS -I/opt/intel/Compiler/11.0/074/mkl/include/fftw
 % ./install.sh
   (building x-windows programs - no)
   (building fftw library - no)

Any suggestions?
Thanks,

Nobuo OKAZAKI


Re: [ccp4bb] cbuccanner.exam failed with libFFTW generated by Intel MKL

2009-01-22 Thread William G. Scott

Dear Nobuo:

I should let the experts answer definitively, but I think this might  
be because the clipper-related stuff (and coot) need single-precision  
s[r]fftw libraries.


I had to do something like this:

LDFLAGS=-Wl,-dylib_file,/sw/lib/libsfftw.2.0.7.dylib:/sw/lib/ 
libsrfftw.2.0.7.dylib


It will probably be a bit different on Fedora (linux uses .so instead  
of .dylib suffixes).  The main point is to force-feed it the single- 
precision libraries.


In practice it is probably just easier just to let ccp4 build its own,  
unless you need the mpi versions.  Single precision makes the  
calculation go faster and you can't see the difference in the maps, in  
my experience.


HTH,

Bill


William G. Scott

contact info:  http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott



On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Nobuo OKAZAKI wrote:


Dear all,

I tried to build CCP4 6.1 with Intel Compiler  Intel Math Kernel
Library(MKL) on Fedora 8. I used MKL as LAPACK and FFTW libraries. The
building processes have been completed successfully, but all tests
passed except cbuccaneer.exam (core dumped).

Log: ---
% ./cbuccaneer.exam or make runtest
(snip.)
Cycle: 1

C-alphas after finding:5
C-alphas after growing:5
./cbuccaneer.exam: line 12: 23479 Aborted cbuccaneer  
-mtzin-ref $CLIBD/reference_structures/reference-1tqw.mtz -pdbin-ref  
$CLIBD/reference_structures/reference-1tqw.pdb -mtzin-wrk $CCP4_SCR/ 
toxd_phase_mir_pirate1.mtz -pdbout-wrk $CCP4_SCR/toxd_phase_mir.pdb - 
colin-wrk-fo '/NATIVE/NATIVE/[FTOXD3,SIGFTOXD3]' -colin-wrk-hl '/*/*/ 
[pirate.ABCD.A,pirate.ABCD.B,pirate.ABCD.C,pirate.ABCD.D]' -find - 
grow -join -link -prune

(core dumped)
-

In case of compiling with Intel Compiler and default fftw libraries
(bundled by CCP4), building and all test processes passed.

Building process:
% mkdir ccp4-intel
% cd ccp4-intel
% tar xvf CCP4-6.1.0.src.tar   (CCP4 core source package)
% setenv XLDFLAGS -lmkl -liomp5 -lguide
% setenv COPTIM -O -ip
% setenv FFTW_LIBS -lfftw2xc_intel -lmkl -liomp5 -lguide -lpthread
% setenv FFTW_CXXFLAGS -I/opt/intel/Compiler/11.0/074/mkl/include/ 
fftw

% ./install.sh
  (building x-windows programs - no)
  (building fftw library - no)

Any suggestions?
Thanks,

Nobuo OKAZAKI


[ccp4bb] Caution - 120 Hz LCDs: Not CRT killers yet...

2009-01-22 Thread Warren DeLano
Stereo 3D Users:

I tested out the Samsung Syncmaster 2233RZ / NVIDIA 3D Vision bundle
today ($599 for a 120 Hz LCD display with one pair of glasses).

Unfortunately, the 2233RZ display is clearly not yet a drop-in
replacement for your stereo-3D-capable CRT:  The display is very nice,
and the stereo quality is excellent (as good as a CRT!), but only
provided that you:

1. Run Microsoft Vista.

2. Install a high-end GeForce 3D card (9800 GT or similar).

3. Have DirectX-based software than has been modified to support
nVidia's consumer-grade stereo API.

4. Use nVidia's 3D Vision glasses and sync emitter (a USB-based device).

In other words, despite the high stereo image quality, this is not yet a
servicable stereo 3D solution for professional use.  Rats!

I was very much hoping that this new display would nevertheless also
work with existing nVidia Quadro-based Mac or Linux systems with
existing emitters and glasses running existing OpenGL software.  Sadly,
this does not seem to be the case due at least in part to the fact that
the phase of the sync signal coming out of the Quadro card does not
match the update phase of the LCD display.  In addition, light from the
display itself seems to corrupt the sync signal for StereoGraphics
glasses.

So, in summary, it seems we are out of luck until nVidia does a bit more
work.  Reportedly, there is a driver update coming that will target use
of nVidia's 3D vision glasses with Quadro-based graphics cards, so stay
tuned.  

Cheers,
Warren