Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass

2009-04-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
Should help if you use detergents and, of course, they are cheaper.

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:38 -0400, Sang Hoon Joo wrote:
 I sometimes notice people using non-siliconized cover glass and it
 makes me wonder what pros and cons we can think about using
 siliconized glass... any suggestions?
 
 Sang Hoon Joo, PhD
 Postdoctoral Associate
 Duke University
 239 Nanaline H. Duke
 Box 3711, DUMC
 Durham, NC 27710
-- 
Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Assistant Professor
University of Maryland, Baltimore
--
When the Way is forgotten duty and justice appear;
Then knowledge and wisdom are born along with hypocrisy.
When harmonious relationships dissolve then respect and devotion arise;
When a nation falls to chaos then loyalty and patriotism are born.
--   / Lao Tse /


[ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-04-30 Thread Jacob Keller
I have noticed that a significant majority of crystallizations are done in 
hanging- rather than sitting-drop configuration, and considering the 
significant extra labor involved in hanging drops, can only understand this 
preference as a historical bias. I understand that sometimes one technique 
works and not the other, but all things being equal, why is hanging drop 
still hanging around? Any insights appreciated...


Jacob Keller

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Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
Dallos Laboratory
F. Searle 1-240
2240 Campus Drive
Evanston IL 60208
lab: 847.491.2438
cel: 773.608.9185
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Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-04-30 Thread Poul Nissen
We often find results to be very different between hanging and sitting  
drops (equilibration kinetics for one may be the explanation). Then  
there's the good thing of hanging drops that crystals rarely stick to  
the surface of the support facilitating the mounting procedure, in  
particular for fragile crystals.
All in all we much prefer hanging drops for our membrane proteins -  
the bottle neck is not in the extra few minutes for set-up, but in the  
months it takes to produce the protein.


Poul
On 30/04/2009, at 16.45, Jacob Keller wrote:

I have noticed that a significant majority of crystallizations are  
done in hanging- rather than sitting-drop configuration, and  
considering the significant extra labor involved in hanging drops,  
can only understand this preference as a historical bias. I  
understand that sometimes one technique works and not the other, but  
all things being equal, why is hanging drop still hanging around?  
Any insights appreciated...


Jacob Keller

***
Jacob Pearson Keller
Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
Dallos Laboratory
F. Searle 1-240
2240 Campus Drive
Evanston IL 60208
lab: 847.491.2438
cel: 773.608.9185
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***



Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass

2009-04-30 Thread Lin Chen
Drops tend to spread and flatten on non-siliconized cover glass, which is why 
people use siliconized cover slides despite the cost.  We recently find some 
places sell siliconized cover slides at much lower prices,  These are not as 
fancy as the Hampton ones in terms of packaging, but worked very well for us.


- Original Message -
From: Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:49 am
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

 Should help if you use detergents and, of course, they are cheaper.
 
 On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:38 -0400, Sang Hoon Joo wrote:
  I sometimes notice people using non-siliconized cover glass and it
  makes me wonder what pros and cons we can think about using
  siliconized glass... any suggestions?
  
  Sang Hoon Joo, PhD
  Postdoctoral Associate
  Duke University
  239 Nanaline H. Duke
  Box 3711, DUMC
  Durham, NC 27710
 -- 
 Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Assistant Professor
 University of Maryland, Baltimore
 --
 When the Way is forgotten duty and justice appear;
 Then knowledge and wisdom are born along with hypocrisy.
 When harmonious relationships dissolve then respect and devotion 
 arise;When a nation falls to chaos then loyalty and patriotism are 
 born.--   / Lao Tse /
 


[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral position available in Bethesda, Maryland, USA

2009-04-30 Thread Shuishu Wang
Postdoctoral Position in Protein Crystallography

A postdoctoral position is available immediately at the Department of
Biochemistry, Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences to
perform structural and biochemical research on potential drug target
proteins from Mycobacterium tuberculosis.  Job duties include protein
expression and purification, biochemical analysis, and crystal
structure determination.  Candidates must have a recent Ph.D. degree
in biochemistry or a related field, with experience in protein
expression and purification and  in protein X-ray crystallography.
Uniformed Services University is located across the street from the
National Institute of Health (NIH) campus in Bethesda, Maryland.  The
position offers a competitive salary with generous fringe benefits.
Interested persons please send CV with names of at least two referees
by e-mail to:

Shuishu Wang
Assistant Professor
Department of Biochemistry
Uniformed Services University
4301 Jones Bridge Road
Bethesda, Maryland 20814

e-mail: shuis...@gmail.com


Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-04-30 Thread Bostjan Kobe
There is really not much difference in terms of setup between hanging and
sitting drop, especially if the drops are set up on tape. Visualization is
also usually easier with hanging drops.

Bostjan


On 1/05/09 1:37 AM, Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk wrote:

 We often find results to be very different between hanging and sitting
 drops (equilibration kinetics for one may be the explanation). Then
 there's the good thing of hanging drops that crystals rarely stick to
 the surface of the support facilitating the mounting procedure, in
 particular for fragile crystals.
 All in all we much prefer hanging drops for our membrane proteins -
 the bottle neck is not in the extra few minutes for set-up, but in the
 months it takes to produce the protein.
 
 Poul
 On 30/04/2009, at 16.45, Jacob Keller wrote:
 
 I have noticed that a significant majority of crystallizations are
 done in hanging- rather than sitting-drop configuration, and
 considering the significant extra labor involved in hanging drops,
 can only understand this preference as a historical bias. I
 understand that sometimes one technique works and not the other, but
 all things being equal, why is hanging drop still hanging around?
 Any insights appreciated...
 
 Jacob Keller
 
 ***
 Jacob Pearson Keller
 Northwestern University
 Medical Scientist Training Program
 Dallos Laboratory
 F. Searle 1-240
 2240 Campus Drive
 Evanston IL 60208
 lab: 847.491.2438
 cel: 773.608.9185
 email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
 ***
 

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School of Chemistry and Molecular Biosciences
  and Institute for Molecular Bioscience
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University of Queensland
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Australia
Phone: +61 7 3365 2132
Fax: +61 7 3365 4699
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Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass

2009-04-30 Thread Lin Chen
Dear Bernhard and all others who asked for this information:

The place we order siliconized cover slides:

Atlantic SciTech Group, Inc.
601 E. Linden Ave.
Linden, NJ 07036, USA
Phone: Tel. 800-720-9483; Fax 877-765-6616
E-mail: sa...@astginc.com
www.astginc.com

lin

- Original Message -
From: Bernhard Spingler sping...@aci.uzh.ch
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass
To: Lin Chen linc...@usc.edu

 Dear Lin,
 
 Thanks for your post. Could you please tell me, which other places 
 sell siliconized cover slides?
 
 Best regards from Switzerland
 
 Bernhard
 
 
 **
 Dr. Bernhard Spingler
 University of Zurich
 Institute of Inorganic Chemistry, Y34F42
 Winterthurerstr. 190
 CH 8057 Zurich
 Switzerland
 +41 44 635 46 56
 
 
 At 18:27 30.04.2009, you wrote:
 Drops tend to spread and flatten on non-siliconized cover glass, 
 which is why people use siliconized cover slides despite the 
 cost.  We recently find some places sell siliconized cover slides 
 at 
 much lower prices,  These are not as fancy as the Hampton ones in 
 terms of packaging, but worked very well for us.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu
 Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:49 am
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] use of siliconized cover glass
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 
   Should help if you use detergents and, of course, they are 
 cheaper. 
   On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 15:38 -0400, Sang Hoon Joo wrote:
I sometimes notice people using non-siliconized cover glass 
 and it
makes me wonder what pros and cons we can think about using
siliconized glass... any suggestions?
   
Sang Hoon Joo, PhD
Postdoctoral Associate
Duke University
239 Nanaline H. Duke
Box 3711, DUMC
Durham, NC 27710
   --
   Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Assistant Professor
   University of Maryland, Baltimore
   --
   When the Way is forgotten duty and justice appear;
   Then knowledge and wisdom are born along with hypocrisy.
   When harmonious relationships dissolve then respect and devotion
   arise;When a nation falls to chaos then loyalty and patriotism are
   born.--   / Lao Tse /
  
 
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-04-30 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi, I beg to differ.  Evaporation rates change dramatically between a 
drop lying on a flat surface open to air flow;  a drop lying in a 
depression;  and a drop lying in a depression with some reservoir 
solution next to it.  We're talking seconds to minutes.


So especially when using robotics to set up lots of drops, you might 
find increased precipitation (or nucleation?) events in hanging drops -- 
but also less repeatable experiments.


As for visualisation:  a proper drop shape (e.g. as used in the SwissCi 
MRC or 3-drop plates) can make a big difference;  certainly those are 
superior to average hanging drop, I argue.  (Whatever superior means.)


phx



Bostjan Kobe wrote:

There is really not much difference in terms of setup between hanging and
sitting drop, especially if the drops are set up on tape. Visualization is
also usually easier with hanging drops.

Bostjan


On 1/05/09 1:37 AM, Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk wrote:

  

We often find results to be very different between hanging and sitting
drops (equilibration kinetics for one may be the explanation). Then
there's the good thing of hanging drops that crystals rarely stick to
the surface of the support facilitating the mounting procedure, in
particular for fragile crystals.
All in all we much prefer hanging drops for our membrane proteins -
the bottle neck is not in the extra few minutes for set-up, but in the
months it takes to produce the protein.

Poul
On 30/04/2009, at 16.45, Jacob Keller wrote:



I have noticed that a significant majority of crystallizations are
done in hanging- rather than sitting-drop configuration, and
considering the significant extra labor involved in hanging drops,
can only understand this preference as a historical bias. I
understand that sometimes one technique works and not the other, but
all things being equal, why is hanging drop still hanging around?
Any insights appreciated...

Jacob Keller

***
Jacob Pearson Keller
Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
Dallos Laboratory
F. Searle 1-240
2240 Campus Drive
Evanston IL 60208
lab: 847.491.2438
cel: 773.608.9185
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***

  


---
Bostjan Kobe
ARC Federation Fellow
Professor of Structural Biology
School of Chemistry and Molecular Biosciences
  and Institute for Molecular Bioscience
Cooper Road
University of Queensland
Brisbane, Queensland 4072
Australia
Phone: +61 7 3365 2132
Fax: +61 7 3365 4699
E-mail: b.k...@uq.edu.au
URL: http://profiles.bacs.uq.edu.au/Bostjan.Kobe.html
Office: Building 76 Room 452
Notice: If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please notify me, and do not
make any use of its contents. I do not waive any privilege, confidentiality
or copyright associated with it. Unless stated otherwise, this e-mail
represents only the views of the Sender and not the views of The University
of Queensland.
  


[ccp4bb] Call for proposals for biodeuteration [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-04-30 Thread DUFF, Anthony
The (Australian) National Deuteration Facility has issued a call for
proposals for protein and DNA deuteration services.  The deadline for
this first call is May 8, 2009.

Deuteration may be necessary or desirable for:
* Neutron crystallography
* Neutron scattering (e.g. SANS, neutron reflectrometry)
* NMR
* Other purposes with scientific merit

Deuteration services are available for proteins, DNA, or other molecules
produced using bacterial fermentation in D2O, using deuterated
precursors if necessary.  Deuteration via chemical synthesis is not
included in this call, although informal expressions of interest are
always welcome, and recommended where development lead times might be
long.

For more information, please see www.ansto.gov.au/ndf

This call for deuteration proposals is part of a general call for
neutron facility proposals at ANSTO.  See
http://www.ansto.gov.au/research/bragg_institute/users

Sincerely,

Dr Anthony Duff
ANSTO Bldg 21
PMB 1, Menai NSW 2234
Telephone: 02 9717 3493
Mobile: 043 189 1076




Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-04-30 Thread Debajyoti Dutta


Hi,



From the experiance of mine I can tell you that the crystal size sometimes 
matters between these two methods. Hanging drop may yield bigger crystals than 
sitting drop, that may be due to the evaporation rate(surface area). Hanging 
drop allow us to set different protocols also like free interface diffusion, 
area covered by the drp etc.



These informations are gained purely by experiance.



cheers

Deb





On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:40:35 +0530  wrote

I have noticed that a significant majority of crystallizations are done in 

hanging- rather than sitting-drop configuration, and considering the 

significant extra labor involved in hanging drops, can only understand this 

preference as a historical bias. I understand that sometimes one technique 

works and not the other, but all things being equal, why is hanging drop 

still hanging around? Any insights appreciated...



Jacob Keller



***

Jacob Pearson Keller

Northwestern University

Medical Scientist Training Program

Dallos Laboratory

F. Searle 1-240

2240 Campus Drive

Evanston IL 60208

lab: 847.491.2438

cel: 773.608.9185

email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu

***