[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose

2013-11-22 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Using your favorite editor, you can copy the LINK record from the pdb file 
generated by Coot and paste it into the pdb file produced by Phenix. You can 
also make a script to do this. This is what I did during the time LINK records 
were not properly handled by coot, refmac and buster. 

Best regards,
Herman



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Dmitry 
Rodionov
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2013 22:09
An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose

Thank you all for helpful suggestions.

My question was how to properly connect a mannose to a serine and real-space 
refine the result. My apologies for not being clear enough.

Coot can't find MAN-SER or SER-MAN in it's library (Coot 0.7.1, mon_lib 5.41)
It does not automatically make the bond between MAN C1 and OG of SER either.

Here is the way I finally made the connection followed by refinement it in Coot:

1) Get monomer... MAN
2) real-space refine MAN into reasonable position
3) Delete hydrogens and reducing hydroxyl
Bond is not detected
4) Extensions-Modelling ...-make Link (Click 2 atoms) ... Click on C1 of MAN 
and OG of SER
dashed bond appears
5) Sphere refine 

A whole different issue that was touched in the replies is how this model will 
be handled by refinement programs.
For the sake of a record, I am using Phenix and it seems to not respect the 
described link without massaging by means of either pdb.edits or apply_link.def.
Also, phenix.refine does not produce LINK records in the output PDB, so step 4 
might have to be repeated.

Best regards,
Dmitry


Re: [ccp4bb] Stereo monitor

2013-11-22 Thread Kay Diederichs
I'm using a 24 BenQ XL2420TX (emitter builit-in; price 500€) monitor connected 
to the DisplayPort of a Quadro FX 380 card. Works very well on 64bit 
ScientificLinux 6.4 with the kmod-nvidia driver from ElRepo.

Please also see 
http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo .

HTH,

Kay


[ccp4bb] How accurate are refined group-occupancies?

2013-11-22 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear bulletin board members,

A referee came back with a question about the accuracy of refined 
group-occupancies. In the manuscript we describe 3 crystal structures with 
resolutions between 2.1 and 2.4 Å. In all three cases, the inhibitor has been 
fitted in two alternative conformations and the group occupancy of each 
conformation has been refined and the relative occupancies vary depending on 
the inhibitor.

The accuracy will depend on the amount of overlap between the inhibitor 
densities and the amount of unique density belonging only to one conformation 
and the amount of additional disorder of the inhibitors, since most of the 
interactions are non-specific hydrophobic interactions. Also partially occupied 
solvent molecules could lead to errors in the refined occupancies. My gut 
feeling is that the error will be somewhere between 20 and 30% or even higher, 
but I would be very happy if someone could come with a more scientific way, 
however crude, to get an estimate of this error.

Best regards,
Herman



Re: [ccp4bb] Sokalan cp 42 as a cryoprotectant

2013-11-22 Thread abhimanyu singh
Thank you all for your suggestions.



Greetings,

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Jim Pflugrath jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com wrote:
 Here's an easy experiment to try:

 What happens when you flash-cool your reservoir solution in Liquid Nitrogen?  
 Does it remains glass-clear at 100 K or lower?

 Jim

 
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of abhimanyu 
 singh [abhisingh@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:03 AM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] Sokalan cp 42 as a cryoprotectant

 Dear all,

 Recently I got couple of crystallization hits in conditions containing
 30-40% sokalan cp 42 provided in MIDAS commercial screen from
 molecular dimensions. I tried to look up for information regarding its
 probable cryo protection activity but failed to find anything. Could
 someone have any clue about this ?



 Thank you.


 Greetings,

 --
 Abhimanyu Kumar Singh
 Ph.D. Student
 Department of Macromolecular Structures
 National Center for Biotechnology (CNB-CSIC)
 C/ Darwin 3, Campus de Cantoblanco,
 28049 Madrid, Spain.
 E-Mail: abhimanyu.si...@cnb.csic.es



-- 
Abhimanyu Kumar Singh
Ph.D. Student
Department of Macromolecular Structures
National Center for Biotechnology (CNB-CSIC)
C/ Darwin 3, Campus de Cantoblanco,
28049 Madrid, Spain.
E-Mail: abhimanyu.si...@cnb.csic.es


Re: [ccp4bb] How accurate are refined group-occupancies?

2013-11-22 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Herman,

you could apply random shifts to the occupancies, coordinates, and
B-values and refine a large number of times, e.g. with 50 variations.
Then you can calculate the mean occupancies with standard deviations.
That's give you an idea about the precision of the occupancies.

I am not sure how to get to the accuracy - you would have to figure
out how much all the parameters are interrelated, which I dare say is
quite impossible - it is easier for the referee to learn what a
crystallographic model represents.

Best,
Tim

On 11/22/2013 10:07 AM, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote:
 Dear bulletin board members,
 
 A referee came back with a question about the accuracy of refined
 group-occupancies. In the manuscript we describe 3 crystal
 structures with resolutions between 2.1 and 2.4 ᅤ. In all three
 cases, the inhibitor has been fitted in two alternative
 conformations and the group occupancy of each conformation has been
 refined and the relative occupancies vary depending on the
 inhibitor.
 
 The accuracy will depend on the amount of overlap between the
 inhibitor densities and the amount of unique density belonging only
 to one conformation and the amount of additional disorder of the
 inhibitors, since most of the interactions are non-specific
 hydrophobic interactions. Also partially occupied solvent molecules
 could lead to errors in the refined occupancies. My gut feeling is
 that the error will be somewhere between 20 and 30% or even higher,
 but I would be very happy if someone could come with a more
 scientific way, however crude, to get an estimate of this error.
 
 Best regards, Herman
 
 

- -- 
- --
Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] PostDoc - Structural Biology - Cancer

2013-11-22 Thread Alessandro Vannini
Dear CCP4ers,


apologies but the actual deadline for the advertised post is the 29th November 
2013 (and not 2014). So only one week left to apply and not one year.

Best,

Alessandro



A post-doctoral position is available immediately in the laboratory of Dr. 
Alessandro Vannini, within the Division of Structural Biology at The Institute 
of Cancer Research in Chelsea, London, UK. We are looking for highly motivated 
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Applicants should possess a PhD (or equivalent) in biochemistry or molecular 
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Appointment will be on Fixed Term Contract for 3 years in the first instance, 
with a starting salary in the range of £28,425 to £34,944 p.a. inclusive (based 
on previous post-doctoral experience).  

CV and covering letter must be submitted online at 
http://www.icr.ac.uk/jobsearch

Job Ref. No. 1378320
Closing Date: 29th November 2013

For informal inquiries you can contact me directly at 
alessandro.vann...@icr.ac.uk


[ccp4bb] Ph.D studentship in Structural Biology in Oxford

2013-11-22 Thread Christian Siebold
A 4-year Ph.D studentship in Structural Biology starting October 2014 is 
available in the Research Group led by Dr. Christian Siebold. Our group, based 
in the Division of Structural Biology (STRUBI) at the Wellcome Trust Centre for 
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biology of extracellular recognition and signalling complexes in development 
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STRUBI harbours a well-developed infrastructure for large-scale soluble and 
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The doctoral project concerns the structural and functional characterization of 
the Hedgehog and Bone Morphogenetic Protein signalling pathways. More details 
can be found under:

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The studentship is funded by Cancer Research UK. Applicants should hold or 
expect to gain a first or upper second class honours degree. Cancer Research UK 
will pay a competitive stipend (£19.000 p.a.) as well as University and College 
fees. Ideal candidates have a strong background in biochemistry and molecular 
or cell biology, but science graduates in general are welcome to apply. It 
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January 2014. Interviews are expected to take place on 29 and 30 January 2014.

For further information please contact Christian Siebold 
(christ...@strubi.ox.ac.uk).


Re: [ccp4bb] Orientation of molecules

2013-11-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If you suspect your MR solution is crystallographically correct but it
does not represent the biological entity  - eg - you will generate a
dimer if you move molecule B by a symmetry operator such -x,y-1/2,1-z
then the easy way is to submit the coordinates to PISA - either in the
CCP4 GUI or send them to PDBe to search for quaternary structure, and
let PISA sort out the best orientations of possible crystal symmetry
Eleanor

But Phils suggestion should do the same thing..


On 21 November 2013 18:24, Phil Jeffrey pjeff...@princeton.edu wrote:
 * Open molecular replacement solution in Coot
 * Display crystal packing (DrawCell  Symmetry), perhaps as Calphas only
 * Find the symmetry-related instance of copyB that is in the correct
 position relative to copyA according to your preferences
 * Use FileSave Symmetry Coordinates to write the structure transposed by
 that operator (note: select the menu option, then click on the copyB
 instance)
 * Since Coot will write the entire structure transposed by that symop,
 assemble the desired solution from copyA from the mol.rep. solution and
 copyB from the transposed solution.  I'm a Luddite so I use emacs and/or
 grep for this.

 Phil Jeffrey
 Princeton



 11/21/13 1:11 PM, Appu kumar wrote:

 Dear All,

 I think i have not explained my problem precisely. This
 may be weird one but let me elaborate more. I have have a protein
 moleculeA, having N-term, and C-term end. Structurally, it is dimer
 with anti-parallel arrangement i.e N-terminal of one copyA of molecule
 form dimer in such a way that it copyB would be arranged in
 antiparallel fashioned (N-term of copyA is besides C-term of CopyB).
 So when i am searching for two copy of molecule in phaser it is giving
 me two copy of molecule in parallel arrangement. So my question is,
 how to tell phaser that after fixing the orientation of first copy, to
 change the orientation of 2nd copy with respect to first one so that
 their n-teminal and c-terminal lies beside each other. I am looking
 for your valuable suggestion.
 Thank you




Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose

2013-11-22 Thread Dmitry Rodionov
Thanks, Herman.

Zhijie, what is the difference between LINK and LINKR?

Maybe this will help somebody (though phenix-related):
phenix.link_edits parses the pdb for LINK records and outputs the pdb.edits 
file.
Alternatively, phenix.ligand_linking can guess what should be bonded in the 
absence of LINK records and produce apply_link.def

Best rgards,
Dmitry

On 2013-11-22, at 3:18 AM, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote:

 Using your favorite editor, you can copy the LINK record from the pdb file 
 generated by Coot and paste it into the pdb file produced by Phenix. You can 
 also make a script to do this. This is what I did during the time LINK 
 records were not properly handled by coot, refmac and buster. 
 
 Best regards,
 Herman
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Dmitry 
 Rodionov
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2013 22:09
 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose
 
 Thank you all for helpful suggestions.
 
 My question was how to properly connect a mannose to a serine and real-space 
 refine the result. My apologies for not being clear enough.
 
 Coot can't find MAN-SER or SER-MAN in it's library (Coot 0.7.1, mon_lib 5.41)
 It does not automatically make the bond between MAN C1 and OG of SER either.
 
 Here is the way I finally made the connection followed by refinement it in 
 Coot:
 
 1) Get monomer... MAN
 2) real-space refine MAN into reasonable position
 3) Delete hydrogens and reducing hydroxyl
 Bond is not detected
 4) Extensions-Modelling ...-make Link (Click 2 atoms) ... Click on C1 of 
 MAN and OG of SER
 dashed bond appears
 5) Sphere refine 
 
 A whole different issue that was touched in the replies is how this model 
 will be handled by refinement programs.
 For the sake of a record, I am using Phenix and it seems to not respect the 
 described link without massaging by means of either pdb.edits or 
 apply_link.def.
 Also, phenix.refine does not produce LINK records in the output PDB, so step 
 4 might have to be repeated.
 
 Best regards,
   Dmitry



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Re: [ccp4bb] Orientation of molecules

2013-11-22 Thread Randy Read
Hi,

If you get the 0.8-pre prerelease version of coot, there's a fantastic new 
feature that makes this much easier.  Instead of File-Save Symmetry 
Coordinates, you just center on the symmetry copy that you want to use as the 
master copy and select Extensions-Modelling-Symm Shift Reference Chain Here, 
and then it just moves the original copy of that chain to the new symmetry 
position.  Once you've adjusted all the chains to what you want, you just save 
the model.  No more need for emacs or grep or even vi!

Regards,

Randy Read

On 21 Nov 2013, at 18:24, Phil Jeffrey pjeff...@princeton.edu wrote:

 * Open molecular replacement solution in Coot
 * Display crystal packing (DrawCell  Symmetry), perhaps as Calphas only
 * Find the symmetry-related instance of copyB that is in the correct position 
 relative to copyA according to your preferences
 * Use FileSave Symmetry Coordinates to write the structure transposed by 
 that operator (note: select the menu option, then click on the copyB instance)
 * Since Coot will write the entire structure transposed by that symop, 
 assemble the desired solution from copyA from the mol.rep. solution and copyB 
 from the transposed solution.  I'm a Luddite so I use emacs and/or grep for 
 this.
 
 Phil Jeffrey
 Princeton
 
 
 11/21/13 1:11 PM, Appu kumar wrote:
 Dear All,
I think i have not explained my problem precisely. This
 may be weird one but let me elaborate more. I have have a protein
 moleculeA, having N-term, and C-term end. Structurally, it is dimer
 with anti-parallel arrangement i.e N-terminal of one copyA of molecule
 form dimer in such a way that it copyB would be arranged in
 antiparallel fashioned (N-term of copyA is besides C-term of CopyB).
 So when i am searching for two copy of molecule in phaser it is giving
 me two copy of molecule in parallel arrangement. So my question is,
 how to tell phaser that after fixing the orientation of first copy, to
 change the orientation of 2nd copy with respect to first one so that
 their n-teminal and c-terminal lies beside each other. I am looking
 for your valuable suggestion.
 Thank you
 

--
Randy J. Read
Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge
Cambridge Institute for Medical Research  Tel: + 44 1223 336500
Wellcome Trust/MRC Building   Fax: + 44 1223 336827
Hills RoadE-mail: rj...@cam.ac.uk
Cambridge CB2 0XY, U.K.   www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk


Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose

2013-11-22 Thread Zhijie Li

Hi Dimetry,

The difference between LINK and LINKR can't be explained better:
http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg11865.html

Older versions of COOT used to not display the LINKR record, but now the
newer versions display both LINK and LINKR records as dotted bonds. I assume
that means COOT will now treat LINKR as LINK, otherwise there is no point
displaying a bond but not taking its meanings. However outside the
refmac-COOT universe, LINKR is not a legitimate record.

Zhijie


-Original Message- 
From: Dmitry Rodionov

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:11 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose

Thanks, Herman.

Zhijie, what is the difference between LINK and LINKR?

Maybe this will help somebody (though phenix-related):
phenix.link_edits parses the pdb for LINK records and outputs the pdb.edits
file.
Alternatively, phenix.ligand_linking can guess what should be bonded in the
absence of LINK records and produce apply_link.def

Best rgards,
Dmitry

On 2013-11-22, at 3:18 AM, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote:

Using your favorite editor, you can copy the LINK record from the pdb file 
generated by Coot and paste it into the pdb file produced by Phenix. You 
can also make a script to do this. This is what I did during the time LINK 
records were not properly handled by coot, refmac and buster.


Best regards,
Herman



-Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-
Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von 
Dmitry Rodionov

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2013 22:09
An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Dealnig with O-linked mannose

Thank you all for helpful suggestions.

My question was how to properly connect a mannose to a serine and 
real-space refine the result. My apologies for not being clear enough.


Coot can't find MAN-SER or SER-MAN in it's library (Coot 0.7.1, mon_lib 
5.41)
It does not automatically make the bond between MAN C1 and OG of SER 
either.


Here is the way I finally made the connection followed by refinement it in 
Coot:


1) Get monomer... MAN
2) real-space refine MAN into reasonable position
3) Delete hydrogens and reducing hydroxyl
Bond is not detected
4) Extensions-Modelling ...-make Link (Click 2 atoms) ... Click on C1 of 
MAN and OG of SER

dashed bond appears
5) Sphere refine

A whole different issue that was touched in the replies is how this model 
will be handled by refinement programs.
For the sake of a record, I am using Phenix and it seems to not respect 
the described link without massaging by means of either pdb.edits or 
apply_link.def.
Also, phenix.refine does not produce LINK records in the output PDB, so 
step 4 might have to be repeated.


Best regards,
Dmitry 


[ccp4bb] hello.

2013-11-22 Thread Rex Palmer


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 11/23/2013 2:52:00 AM

[ccp4bb] 3D stereo notebook

2013-11-22 Thread zhongzhou chen
Dear all,


I am looking into ordering a stereo notebook to view 3D protein structure.
 Which notebook can you recommended? I require that the 3D notebook will be 
used with Linux and Windows, so support of the correspoding graphics card with 
both systems is required.

 In addition,  I found that Dell XPS17XPS17D-428 can be used in windows. 
However I do not know whether 3D view is OK or not in Linux? Moreover, the 
displayer is 17 inch, I think that it is a little larger.

Any comments or experience are welcome. 






Thanks and best wishes,


zhongzhou chen

china agricultural university