Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

[Wladek Minor]

James,

This is correct. To my knowledge, the only  result of BD2K initiative 
which is still alive (barely) is proteindiffraction.org.  I know that 
PDBj is planning to pick-up the data but they do not have funds to keep 
the entire system alive, i.e. check of netadata, processing, doi 
handlig, etc.


Best regards

Wladek

On 6/14/2024 10:52 PM, James Holton wrote:
I seem to recall Wladek mentioning that he has been trying to keep 
proteindiffraction.org alive using his own personal funds, which must 
be difficult.  The NIH grant for Proteindiffraction.org was U01 
HG008424, which had a Project End date of 2018-05-31, and no record of 
a renewal. It was part of the NIH BD2K (Big Data to Knowledge) 
program, but the website for BD2K appears to be a broken link now. The 
final archive.org of it lists an NIH Request for Information 
NOT-OD-16-091 in 2016, where the community was solicited to fill out a 
survey about how useful the program was.  Did anyone here fill out 
that survey?


-James Holton
MAD Scientist

On 6/13/2024 12:24 PM, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago,
there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr 
Melbourne.
Greetings,
John

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc





On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:
Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

Gerard

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On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer onhttps://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
currently.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin 
Malý martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:





Dear John,
Thank you for the link. It would be great if
https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I
preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
data sets will be gone...
Cheers,
Martin

On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:


  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published 
this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
Best wishes,
John
Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc



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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

[Wladek Minor]

Dear Martin,

I am the one who presented in Melbourne. When you contact support, 
please send cc to wla...@minorlab.org. Just for your information, 
proteindiffraction.org is not supported by NIH since 2018.


Best regards

Wladek


On 6/14/2024 1:55 PM, Martin Malý wrote:

Dear John,
Please could you give us an advice who to contact - who presented in 
Melbourne?
I think there are more of us who are not successful in contacting 
their support.

Thank you.
Martin

On 13/06/2024 20:24, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a 
month ago,

there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at 
IUCr Melbourne.

Greetings,
John

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc




On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  
wrote:

Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the 
IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be 
expected to

be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

    Gerard

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On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:
Dear 
Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation 
to offer onhref="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
currently.Greetings,Johndir="ltr">Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell 
DScdir="ltr">On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, 
Martin Malý martin.maly...@email.cz 
wrote:dir="ltr">



    



    Dear John,
    Thank you for the link. It would be great if
    href="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ 
(IRRMC) was rescued. I
    preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets 
- or

    at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
    worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
    data sets will be gone...
    Cheers,
    Martin
    
    On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:
    
    cite="mid:025c572c-c078-40d5-9fca-e697aba6b...@gmail.com">

  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen 
interest, published this afternoon, is available open access from 
this weblink:-
href="https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html

Best wishes,
John
Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc

 



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