Given some of the etymological discussion, and the suggestion of economics as an alternative career, it would seem that the workshop should be held in either Italy or Greece.
Lynn Ten Eyck On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: > Maybe we could have the workshop in Abilene? > > JPK > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Gerard Bricogne <g...@globalphasing.com> > wrote: > Dear James, > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:39:41AM -0700, James Kiefer wrote: > > Dear Jacob, > > > > With all due respect, you have left out a key component to successful > > data fabrication in the modern age: software. It is quite obtuse not > > to have allocated at least one day of the workshop for practical > > applications of Photoshop to diffraction image generation and at least > > a passing coverage of whether or not Adobe Lightroom and > > crystallographic presets therein will be sufficiently capable of > > muddling the RCSB staff analysis of data feasibility checking. > > > > I would very much like to see Gerard Bricogne present a keynote > > lecture entitled something like, "The R-Fake Parameter: A Maximum > > Likelihood Modulus to Define a Minimum Acceptable Data Drift > > Coefficient for Use in the Fabrication of Credibly Artificial > > Diffraction Data." > > > Wait a minute ... I have indeed been trying to understand what types of > random processes would best model errors in actual data, but that is in > order to produce better likelihood functions to refine against raw data, not > to better fake errors in fabricated data ;-) - although of course ... . > > Your suggested title is very good! I will work on a talk, even if the > Workshop never happens. > > > With best wishes, > > Gerard. > > -- > > I also believe that we are perhaps full of hubris as a > > crystallographic community, because an entire field of faked > > structural data has existed long before crystallographers even > > considered manufacturing their data. Specifically, the molecular > > modeling community has already surpassed us in their thinking on the > > subject. While we idly discuss how to properly generate false data, > > they have had the foresight to abandon ALL data...and even the > > starting coordinates in crystal structures - be they real or > > fictitious - and publish volumes of papers entirely unencumbered by > > reality or plausibility. My hat is off to them. > > > > Best regards, > > Jim > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Jacob Keller > > <j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu> wrote: > > > Dear CCP4BB, > > > > > > due to increasing demand, it seems we should put together a workshop on > > > data > > > fabrication, covering the various important topics (chaired by JHo): > > > > > > --Images: the future of fabrication? How long can we rely on database > > > Luddism? > > > --Ways out: how to leave a trail of "accidental" data mix-ups > > > --Publish large or small? Cost-benefit analyses of impact factor vs. risk > > > of > > > being discovered > > > --Pushing the envelope: how significant is two [sic] significant > > > --Crossing discipline boundaries: are data fabrication procedures > > > universal? > > > --Build a better "hofkristallrat"-trap: utilization of rhetorical bombast > > > and indignation in reply letters > > > > > > --Break-out support-session with survivors: comforting words on careers > > > after the fall > > > > > > --Session on the inextricably-related topic of grammatical pedantry, to be > > > followed by a soccer (football?) match Greeks Vs. Latins > > > > > > Ample funding will be available from big pharma and other industry sectors > > > > > > Please submit further topics to the CCP4BB list > > > > > > JPK > > > > > > ps I can't believe no one mentioned the loathsome Latino-Greek "multimer" > > > in > > > the recent curmudgeonry postings. > > > > > > > > > ******************************************* > > > Jacob Pearson Keller > > > Northwestern University > > > Medical Scientist Training Program > > > email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu > > > ******************************************* > > > > > > > > -- > > > > James Kiefer, Ph.D. > > Structural Biology > > Genentech, Inc. > > 1 DNA Way, Mailstop 27 > > South San Francisco, CA 94080-4990 > > -- > > =============================================================== > * * > * Gerard Bricogne g...@globalphasing.com * > * * > * Global Phasing Ltd. * > * Sheraton House, Castle Park Tel: +44-(0)1223-353033 * > * Cambridge CB3 0AX, UK Fax: +44-(0)1223-366889 * > * * > =============================================================== > > > > -- > ******************************************* > Jacob Pearson Keller > Northwestern University > Medical Scientist Training Program > email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu > *******************************************
