Re: [ccp4bb] Symmetry problem

2014-02-20 Thread Monika Coronado
Dear Tim,

I have used coot.

"merge molecules"  (calculate -> merge molecules).

Using coot I have moved the molecules to the same asymmetric unit.

I have the same problem with two different proteins in one case it works.
However, for the other I am still working  :-(

Greetings,


Mônika


2014-02-20 11:09 GMT-03:00 Tim Gruene :

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> Dear Monika,
>
> would you mind summarising how you solved your problem? It might help
> people with similar problems!
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> On 02/20/2014 02:45 PM, Monika Coronado wrote:
> > Dear users,
> >
> > thanks alot for the tips. The problem was solved!
> >
> > Warmest regard,
> >
> >
> >
> > Monika Coronado
> >
> >
> > 2014-02-20 0:57 GMT-03:00 Jens Kaiser :
> >
> >> Monika, There are several possible causes for the problem you
> >> are encountering, but your description is a little too vague to
> >> discern them. Scenario 1) You ran phaser with the option "all
> >> possible spacegroups", for several different components of your
> >> crystal, setup individually, and the runs do not agree on the
> >> "best spacegroup"? -- In that case, phaser had problems
> >> determining the correct spacegroup, I'd suggest you search for
> >> all components, but in separate runs for each possible
> >> spacegroup. Scenario 2) You assumed your spacegroup assignment
> >> was correct, and ran MR for each of your components individually,
> >> and when you display the solutions, they overlap. In this case,
> >> you might have your solutions on different origins. The best way
> >> out is to use the first solution as a "fixed solution", which is
> >> possible in most MR programs, and then search for the next
> >> component. There might be other scenarios, if you describe your
> >> situation in more detail (how many components in the crystal
> >> setup, what program you used, how you used it, and what you mean
> >> by "different symmetries"), we might be able to help you better,
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Jens
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 14:59 -0300, Monika Coronado wrote:
> >>> Dear,
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know how to merge two molecules with different
> >>> symmetry?
> >>>
> >>> I will explain:
> >>>
> >>> I have done the molecular replacement using the domains of the
> >>> molecules separately, now I have to put all together, however
> >>> they have a different symmetry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I will appreciate any kind of help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mnika
> >>>
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Re: [ccp4bb] Symmetry problem

2014-02-20 Thread Monika Coronado
Dear users,

thanks alot for the tips. The problem was solved!

Warmest regard,



Monika Coronado


2014-02-20 0:57 GMT-03:00 Jens Kaiser :

> Monika,
>   There are several possible causes for the problem you are
> encountering, but your description is a little too vague to discern
> them.
>   Scenario 1) You ran phaser with the option "all possible spacegroups",
> for several different components of your crystal, setup individually,
> and the runs do not agree on the "best spacegroup"? -- In that case,
> phaser had problems determining the correct spacegroup, I'd suggest you
> search for all components, but in separate runs for each possible
> spacegroup.
>   Scenario 2) You assumed your spacegroup assignment was correct, and
> ran MR for each of your components individually, and when you display
> the solutions, they overlap. In this case, you might have your solutions
> on different origins. The best way out is to use the first solution as a
> "fixed solution", which is possible in most MR programs, and then search
> for the next component.
>   There might be other scenarios, if you describe your situation in more
> detail (how many components in the crystal setup, what program you used,
> how you used it, and what you mean by "different symmetries"), we might
> be able to help you better,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jens
>
> On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 14:59 -0300, Monika Coronado wrote:
> > Dear,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to merge two molecules with different symmetry?
> >
> > I will explain:
> >
> > I have done the molecular replacement using the domains of the
> > molecules separately, now I have to put all together, however they
> > have a different symmetry.
> >
> >
> > I will appreciate any kind of help.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mônika
> >
> > --
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> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > * * * *
> > ...E tudo muda...
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[ccp4bb] Symmetry problem

2014-02-18 Thread Monika Coronado
Dear,

Does anyone know how to merge two molecules with different symmetry?

I will explain:

I have done the molecular replacement using the domains of the molecules
separately, now I have to put all together, however they have a different
symmetry.

I will appreciate any kind of help.


Regards,



Mônika

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...E tudo muda...

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