Re: [ccp4bb] How to calculate the contacts between the dimer-dimer interface

2007-09-20 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
If you just want the residues involved in the interface, you can use the
byres selection commands in Pymol.

select contacts, (byres monA and (monB around 4))

which will show all the residues on monA that are within 4 Ang. of Mon
B.

Steve

 

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Dear all:

I used moleman2 to calculate the contacts between chain A and B. Can 
anyone suggest a program to calculate the contacts between the interface

of dimer-dimer?

Thank you,

Xiaoyi

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Re: [ccp4bb] centrosymm structure

2007-08-24 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
oopss...Not science:

Proteins: Structure, Function, and Genetics

Volume 16, Issue 3 , Pages 301 - 305 (1993) 

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Jeremy Berg, Rubredoxin. In Science around 1995.

Steve 

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Dear All,

there was a paper (quite) a while ago where someone made
for the first time a racemic protein mixture, obtained a 
centrosymmetric structure and solved it (not the 2003
PNAS paper by the Eisenberg grp).

Hints appreciated.

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Re: [ccp4bb] centrosymm structure

2007-08-24 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
Jeremy Berg, Rubredoxin. In Science around 1995.

Steve 

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Dear All,

there was a paper (quite) a while ago where someone made
for the first time a racemic protein mixture, obtained a 
centrosymmetric structure and solved it (not the 2003
PNAS paper by the Eisenberg grp).

Hints appreciated.

Thx, br
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Re: [ccp4bb] Combining MR and MAD phases

2007-07-17 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
If you want to combine though, I use the molrep phases to get all  
heavy atoms
in an anomalous fourier map, then go to SHARP with these sites and  
use the 'External phases' option
in the SHARP gui. Works well for me.

This has worked well for me too...I highly recommend SHARP.

Good luck-

Steve


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I would be tempted to say that you don't need to combine; with 1.7 A  
data, refinement should do it with no trouble.
And, yes, of course ARP/wARP (7.0) would be the best way to do it ;-)

If you want to combine though, I use the molrep phases to get all  
heavy atoms
in an anomalous fourier map, then go to SHARP with these sites and  
use the 'External phases' option
in the SHARP gui. Works well for me.

I also recall that Phaser has an option for exactly do that, but with  
SAD data only.

But, again, if you have 1.7 A data good old refinement and auto- 
building will (likely) do the job in a glance.

Tassos


PS If you dont want to install arp/warp locally why not try:

http://cluster.embl-hamburg.de/ARPwARP/remote-http.html

PS2 Apologies for the shameless promotion of ARP/wARP ;-)


On 17 Jul 2007, at 18:22, Joe Batchelor wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a 1.7 A native dataset, a good MR solution for 2/3 of the
 protein, and MAD phases to 3 A. How should I combine the MR phases
 with the MAD phases?

 Thanks,
 Joe




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Re: [ccp4bb] Eden SUSE linux libfftw.so.2

2007-06-13 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
SuSE is a Mandrake derivative, so that is your best bet. It is likely that the 
Rehat RPM will work too.  Make sure that the library goes to the right place 
after you install it (especially if you go Redhat) - you may have to put a 
symbolic link where the program in question is looking for this...

Good luck-

Steve

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Subject: [ccp4bb] Eden  SUSE linux libfftw.so.2

Dear all,
trying to install electron density calculation program 
eden-5.3-1.2.el4.mok.i386.rpm under SUSE linux 9.3-10.1
the libfftw.so.2 is missing. Does anybody know which provider is so 
equivalent to SUSE
that the programs can be mixed (fftw2 from REDHAT, MANDRAKE, ...)?
Many thanks,
Jürgen




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Re: [ccp4bb] B-factor sharpening in CCP4 or Coot

2007-06-13 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
Eleanor was kind enough to modify truncate years ago for me to do this -
I would guess the feature is still there.

Thanks again Eleanor!

Steve 

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Hi,

I have a question for everyone.  I wanted to up-weight my high  
resolution terms in my electron density map by applying a B-factor  
sharpening term.  I have mtz files produced from DM and I usually use  
Coot to generate my electron density maps.  I was wondering is there  
an easy way to apply a B-factor sharpening term in Coot?  If not, is  
there a program in ccp4 where by I can set the B-sharp factor?

Thanks

Jeff




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Re: [ccp4bb] B-factor sharpening in CCP4 or Coot

2007-06-13 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
Senility is, in fact, setting in.

It was a modified version of CAD!  Sorry for the confusion.  

To further compound the confusion, I am not sure if my solution is what
you are really looking for, although I suspect you should try it.  What
we did was use an overall negative B-factor to achieve a sharpening
effect (Cell 119(3):393-405).  Others had done this before (David
Borhani comes to mind)anyway, it can be very, very useful.

Steve 

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Eleanor was kind enough to modify truncate years ago for me to do this -
I would guess the feature is still there.

Thanks again Eleanor!

Steve 

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Subject: [ccp4bb] B-factor sharpening in CCP4 or Coot

Hi,

I have a question for everyone.  I wanted to up-weight my high  
resolution terms in my electron density map by applying a B-factor  
sharpening term.  I have mtz files produced from DM and I usually use  
Coot to generate my electron density maps.  I was wondering is there  
an easy way to apply a B-factor sharpening term in Coot?  If not, is  
there a program in ccp4 where by I can set the B-sharp factor?

Thanks

Jeff





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Re: [ccp4bb] How to determine ligand binding from diffraction pattern?

2007-05-30 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
We have a specific case with a 24 kDa protein crystallizing in P6522 
with resolution of 2.5 - 3 A, which should be comparable to most 
cases. The ligands have 10 - 20 non-hydrogen atoms (most of the time 
we don't know, we are actually screening for them). How far should 
we refine to see if we have only water molecules or a ligand bound 
- to an Rfree of 0.45 or 0.40 or 0.35?
greetings 
   Gottfried


In my opinion, this is not easy to reduce to a single number since there
are too many variables.  True resolution and quality of the data, the
actual non-isomorphism (and in particular conformational changes),
B-factor of the ligand, etc.

The coy answer would be enough refinement to convince yourself that it
is or isn't there, but in all seriousness, it does boil down to a
judgment call on when you have reached the point of diminishing returns.
I think the problem is particularly complex with the fragment screening
work you describe, since you may or may not know where the ligands are
actually binding.  Tricky stuff indeed.

Steve





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Re: [ccp4bb] How to determine ligand binding from diffraction pattern?

2007-05-29 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
Having done this a few hundred times, I would strongly suggest that you
just collect the data and solve the structure.  Since you already have
the apo structure solved, then it really isn't that much work to do an
MR solution on the complex.  Be aware that quite frequently there is
enough non-isomorphism to necessitate partial refinement of the
complex structure before recognizable density will appear for the
ligand.  The definitive answer can only be obtained with a full data
set, so go for it.
 
Good luck-
 
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pattern?


Dear all,


Is there a simple way to determine whether ligand is bound or not by
comparing the diffraction patterns between ligand-free (structure known)
and ligand-soaked protein crystals?  I would like to solve the ligand
bound protein structure, but before I do so, I have to find out if the
ligand is actually bound.  Thank you very much! 


Best,


Joe


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Re: [ccp4bb] A bit of history: John W Backus obit [Broadcast]

2007-03-20 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
Regarding David Sayre,  Ed Lattman once opined in a Sayre's Equation
lecture to graduate students that if only David Sayre would focus his
attention on macromolecular crystallography again, that perhaps the
phase problem would be solved. 

Lofty praise indeed.

Thanks for the anecdote Bob.

Steve
  

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I'm pretty sure that the crystallographer was David Sayre.  I also
believe 
(not documented well enough for wikipedia, but perhaps for here)
that IBM were so pleased with this performance that they made David an
IBM 
Fellow, which meant that he could do anything he wanted for the rest of 
his life.  Here's what he decided to do:

He's known in crystallography for the Sayre Equation, a fundamental 
relationship in direct methods.  Also, maybe not so well known, he was a

major driving force behind the method of visualizing single molecules or

cells from diffraction patterns:  J. Miao, H. N. Chapman, J. Kirz, D. 
Sayre and K. O. Hodgson, TTaking X-ray Diffraction to the Limit: 
Macromolecular Structures from Femtosecond X-ray Pulses and Diffraction 
Microscopy of Cells with Synchrotron Radiation, Annu. Rev. Biophys. 
Biomol. Struct. 33, 157-176 (2004).

He and I used to use adjacent darkrooms at the NSLS for developing x-ray

films (the '80's).  I'd meet him on the long walk, ask what he was
doing, 
and smile sympathetically when he said he was going to image single
yeast 
cells.  Well, they're essentially doing it now.  One never want's to 
underestimate David Sayre's ability to find phases.

When David retired from IBM and his adjunct appointment at SUNY Stony 
Brook one of his old buddies from the FORTRAN project spoke at the 
symposium.  Perhaps it was Backus.  They both said that the period of 
developing that language in a small team was one of the happiest times
of 
their lives.

Don't take this as fact, but this is what I remember.

Bob


On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Bart Hazes wrote:

 The storey also made it to the CNN business page and they add...

 The Fortran programming language, which was a huge leap forward in
easing the 
 creation of computer software, was released in 1957, said the report.

 Backus launched his research project at IBM (Charts) four years
earlier, 
 assembling a diverse team of 10, including a chess wizard, a
crystallographer 
 and a cryptographer, said the Times.
 

 Full story @: 

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/20/news/newsmakers/backus/index.htm?postver
sion=2007032008

 Bart


 P.Artymiuk wrote:
 A bit of history: NY Times obituary for John W. Backus, 82, developer
of
 Fortran, without which CCP4 and much else would not have been
possible. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/obituaries/20cnd-backus.html?ex=133204
3200en=adde3ee5a1875330ei=5124partner=permalinkexprod=permalink
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol

2007-02-14 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
I am guessing it is a difference in normalization, but I would love to hear a 
definitive answer from someone.

Steve


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Subject: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol
 
Dear all,
 
I have noticed that going from refmac 5 (script) to generate fo-fc and 2fo-fc 
maps in O / Pymol once and Coot in the other, the outcome is not exactly the 
same electron density maps-I mean some differences are seen.  I have used the 
following columns in Coot (latest version): FOFCWT, PHFOFCWT and 2FOFCWT, 
PH2FOFCWT.  The .o map file was generated using FFT, MAPMASK and MAPMAN.
I want to know why I am not getting identical maps, and if there is a solution 
to avoid this problem then I would really appreciate your help.
 
With regards
Mac



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