Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-16 Thread Wladek Minor 

James,

This is correct. To my knowledge, the only  result of BD2K initiative 
which is still alive (barely) is proteindiffraction.org.  I know that 
PDBj is planning to pick-up the data but they do not have funds to keep 
the entire system alive, i.e. check of netadata, processing, doi 
handlig, etc.


Best regards

Wladek

On 6/14/2024 10:52 PM, James Holton wrote:
I seem to recall Wladek mentioning that he has been trying to keep 
proteindiffraction.org alive using his own personal funds, which must 
be difficult.  The NIH grant for Proteindiffraction.org was U01 
HG008424, which had a Project End date of 2018-05-31, and no record of 
a renewal. It was part of the NIH BD2K (Big Data to Knowledge) 
program, but the website for BD2K appears to be a broken link now. The 
final archive.org of it lists an NIH Request for Information 
NOT-OD-16-091 in 2016, where the community was solicited to fill out a 
survey about how useful the program was.  Did anyone here fill out 
that survey?


-James Holton
MAD Scientist

On 6/13/2024 12:24 PM, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago,
there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr 
Melbourne.
Greetings,
John

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc





On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:
Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

Gerard

--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer onhttps://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
currently.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin 
Malý martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:





Dear John,
Thank you for the link. It would be great if
https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I
preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
data sets will be gone...
Cheers,
Martin

On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:


  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published 
this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
Best wishes,
John
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-16 Thread Wladek Minor 

Dear Martin,

I am the one who presented in Melbourne. When you contact support, 
please send cc to wla...@minorlab.org. Just for your information, 
proteindiffraction.org is not supported by NIH since 2018.


Best regards

Wladek


On 6/14/2024 1:55 PM, Martin Malý wrote:

Dear John,
Please could you give us an advice who to contact - who presented in 
Melbourne?
I think there are more of us who are not successful in contacting 
their support.

Thank you.
Martin

On 13/06/2024 20:24, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a 
month ago,

there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at 
IUCr Melbourne.

Greetings,
John

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc




On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  
wrote:

Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the 
IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be 
expected to

be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

    Gerard

--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:
Dear 
Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation 
to offer onhref="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
currently.Greetings,Johndir="ltr">Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell 
DScdir="ltr">On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, 
Martin Malý martin.maly...@email.cz 
wrote:dir="ltr">



    



    Dear John,
    Thank you for the link. It would be great if
    href="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ 
(IRRMC) was rescued. I
    preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets 
- or

    at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
    worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
    data sets will be gone...
    Cheers,
    Martin
    
    On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:
    
    cite="mid:025c572c-c078-40d5-9fca-e697aba6b...@gmail.com">

  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen 
interest, published this afternoon, is available open access from 
this weblink:-
href="https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html

Best wishes,
John
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-15 Thread John R Helliwell 
Hello James,I have checked the IUCr Public Forum Diffraction Data Deposition Working Group postings and there is no posting about an ROI for the IRRMC. I don’t recall mention of it being made on this bb either, but my memory may be wrong.Answering ROIs are important, as you are correctly stressing for the current MSR beamlines ROI. A famous lesson this side of the pond is that the majority of young people, overwhelmingly in favour of Remain in the EU, didn’t vote in the Brexit referendum in 2016. The outcome of that lack of participation in the vote was the disaster that is Brexit, bad for UK and bad for the EU. Greetings,John Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 15 Jun 2024, at 03:52, James Holton  wrote:

  

  
  
I seem to recall Wladek mentioning that he has been trying to keep
proteindiffraction.org alive using his own personal funds, which
must be difficult.  The NIH grant for Proteindiffraction.org was U01 HG008424, which had a
  Project End date of 2018-05-31, and no record of a
renewal. It was part of the NIH BD2K (Big Data to Knowledge)
program, but the website for BD2K appears to be a broken link now.
The
final archive.org of it lists an NIH Request for Information NOT-OD-16-091 in 2016, where the community was
  solicited to fill out a survey about how useful the program was. 
  Did anyone here fill out that survey? 
  
  -James Holton
  MAD Scientist

On 6/13/2024 12:24 PM, John R Helliwell
  wrote:


  Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago, 
there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share. 
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr Melbourne. 
Greetings,
John 

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc





  
On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:
Dear John,

Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
be able to throw some light?

Best wishes,

   Gerard

--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:


  Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer on"https://proteindiffraction.org/">proteindiffraction.org currently.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin Malý martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:


   


   Dear John,
   Thank you for the link. It would be great if
   "https://proteindiffraction.org/">https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I
   preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
   at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
   worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
   data sets will be gone...
   Cheers,
   Martin
   
   On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
 wrote:
   
   "mid:025c572c-c078-40d5-9fca-e697aba6b...@gmail.com">
 Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
"https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html">https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
Best wishes,
John
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-14 Thread James Holton 
I seem to recall Wladek mentioning that he has been trying to keep 
proteindiffraction.org alive using his own personal funds, which must be 
difficult.  The NIH grant for Proteindiffraction.org was U01 HG008424, 
which had a Project End date of 2018-05-31, and no record of a renewal. 
It was part of the NIH BD2K (Big Data to Knowledge) program, but the 
website for BD2K appears to be a broken link now. The final archive.org 
of it lists an NIH Request for Information NOT-OD-16-091 in 2016, where 
the community was solicited to fill out a survey about how useful the 
program was. Did anyone here fill out that survey?


-James Holton
MAD Scientist

On 6/13/2024 12:24 PM, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago,
there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr 
Melbourne.
Greetings,
John

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc





On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:
Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

Gerard

--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer onhttps://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
currently.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin 
Malý martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:





Dear John,
Thank you for the link. It would be great if
https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I
preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
data sets will be gone...
Cheers,
Martin

On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:


  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published 
this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
Best wishes,
John
Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc



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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-14 Thread John R Helliwell 
Dear MartinHere is the weblink to our IUCr 2023 Committee on Data Workshop in Melbourne:-(IUCr) Melbourne Workshopiucr.orgPresentations are available for our speakers as you will see theirin . The IRRMC talk was given by Wladek Minor. I hope you can join us at IUCr 2026 Calgary as we progress this important theme which I am pleased to see you are enthusiastic about. Raw diffraction data archiving offers us great opportunities as a science.Greetings,John Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 14 Jun 2024, at 17:56, Martin Malý  wrote:Dear John,Please could you give us an advice who to contact - who presented in Melbourne?I think there are more of us who are not successful in contacting their support.Thank you.MartinOn 13/06/2024 20:24, John R Helliwell wrote:Dear Gerard,Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago,there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr Melbourne.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:Dear John, Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr'sCommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected tobe able to throw some light? Best wishes,    Gerard--On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer onproteindiffraction.org currently.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin Malý martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:        Dear John,    Thank you for the link. It would be great if    https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I    preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or    at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am    worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded    data sets will be gone...    Cheers,    Martin        On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell  wrote:          Dear Colleagues,Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.htmlBest wishes,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScTo unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BBA=1This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms  conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/        To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/

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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-14 Thread Martin Malý 

Dear John,
Please could you give us an advice who to contact - who presented in 
Melbourne?
I think there are more of us who are not successful in contacting their 
support.

Thank you.
Martin

On 13/06/2024 20:24, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago,
there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share.
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr 
Melbourne.
Greetings,
John

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc





On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:
Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

Gerard

--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer onhttps://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
currently.Greetings,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin 
Malý martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:





Dear John,
Thank you for the link. It would be great if
https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I
preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
data sets will be gone...
Cheers,
Martin

On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:


  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published 
this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
Best wishes,
John
Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc



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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-14 Thread Clemens Vonrhein 
Dear Martin,

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:40:43AM +0100, Martin Malý wrote:
> Thank you for the link. It would be great if https://proteindiffraction.org/
> (IRRMC) was rescued.

They are back in business since a couple of months now - at least
regarding new data appearing there.

> I preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets -
> or at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year.

That's true: no luck with that for me either since last
summer. Unfortunately the website has no information (that I can find)
who to contact for support or questions - so maybe my emails just went
to the wrong addresses.

> I am worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded data
> sets will be gone...

Very, very possible (same happened with e.g. the original JCSG
repository with all the originally processed data and a huge amount of
meta-data gone now [1]). In that respect a site like Zeonodo.org
(backed by big players like EC, OpenAIRE, CERN etc) is much more
likely to stay up - or at least have a plan for when something new
replaces it.

Of course, something generic like Zenodo is not dealing just with MX
data and therefore doesn't provide some intrinsic template to show
more than just file downloads. But since (1) all our detectors,
beamlines and inhouse instruments now write perfect, complete and rich
meta-data into the associated image headers (or HDF5 containers), and
(2) we all deposit meta-data rich models and multi-dataset reflection
data with correct information into the PDB, this is much less
important nowadays ... right?  ;-)

Cheers

Clemens

[1] The wayback machine at archive.org comes to rescue here
... sometimes.



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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-13 Thread Gerard Bricogne 
Dear John,

 Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
be able to throw some light?

 Best wishes,

Gerard

--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:
> Dear 
> Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer 
> on href="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
> currently.Greetings,John dir="ltr">Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell 
> DSc dir="ltr">On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin Malý 
> martin.maly...@email.cz wrote: type="cite">
> 
>   
> 
>   
>   
> Dear John,
> Thank you for the link. It would be great if
>  href="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ 
> (IRRMC) was rescued. I
> preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
> at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
> worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
> data sets will be gone...
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
> On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
>   wrote:
> 
>  cite="mid:025c572c-c078-40d5-9fca-e697aba6b...@gmail.com">
>   Dear Colleagues,
> Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, 
> published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
>  href="https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-13 Thread John R Helliwell 
Dear Gerard,
Quite so. But, as this CCP4bb has also observed in emails about a month ago, 
there is currently no news of proteindiffraction.org to share. 
Certainly detailed reports of its excellent work were presented at IUCr 
Melbourne. 
Greetings,
John 

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc




> On 13 Jun 2024, at 19:27, Gerard Bricogne  wrote:
> Dear John,
> 
> Is this not a matter on which internal communication within the IUCr's
> CommDat (https://www.iucr.org/resources/data/commdat) would be expected to
> be able to throw some light?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
>Gerard
> 
> --
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:58:54AM +0100, John R Helliwell wrote:
>> Dear 
>> Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer 
>> on> href="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>proteindiffraction.org 
>> currently.Greetings,John> dir="ltr">Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell 
>> DSc> dir="ltr">On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin Malý 
>> martin.maly...@email.cz wrote:> type="cite">
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>Dear John,
>>Thank you for the link. It would be great if
>>> href="https://proteindiffraction.org/;>https://proteindiffraction.org/ 
>> (IRRMC) was rescued. I
>>preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
>>at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
>>worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
>>data sets will be gone...
>>Cheers,
>>Martin
>>
>>On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> cite="mid:025c572c-c078-40d5-9fca-e697aba6b...@gmail.com">
>>  Dear Colleagues,
>> Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, 
>> published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
>> > href="https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html;>https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-13 Thread John R Helliwell 
Title: Page Title
Dear Filipe,That is great to have your confirmation about cxidb.org’s ongoing activities with raw diffraction data archiving especially for SFX datasets.I have to apologise to you that your fine work is not credited in our Table 1.At IUCr Calgary Congress in 2026 I am aware of developing plans that the IUCr Committee on Data will review this landscape under its new Chairman Prof Simon Coles. It would be great if you would be there.All best wishes,JohnEmeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 18:11, Filipe Maia  wrote:




Hi,


https://cxidb.org is also an alternative, especially for SFX datasets.


Cheers,
Filipe



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Hi

Presumably Wladek would know about this - I believe that he is an occasional visitor to this BB!

Harry

> On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:40, Martin Malý  wrote:
>
> Dear John,
> Thank you for the link. It would be great if 
https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
 data sets will be gone...
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
>>
>> 
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
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>> John
>> Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-13 Thread Filipe Maia 
Hi,

https://cxidb.org is also an alternative, especially for SFX datasets.

Cheers,
Filipe

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> On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:40, Martin Malý 
> mailto:martin.maly...@email.cz>> wrote:
>
> Dear John,
> Thank you for the link. It would be great if https://proteindiffraction.org/ 
> (IRRMC) was rescued. I preferred this website but they stopped receiving new 
> data sets - or at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. 
> I am worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded data 
> sets will be gone...
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, 
>> published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
>>
>> https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
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>> John
>> Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-13 Thread Harry Powell 
Hi

Presumably Wladek would know about this - I believe that he is an occasional 
visitor to this BB!

Harry

> On 13 Jun 2024, at 10:40, Martin Malý  wrote:
> 
> Dear John,
> Thank you for the link. It would be great if https://proteindiffraction.org/ 
> (IRRMC) was rescued. I preferred this website but they stopped receiving new 
> data sets - or at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. 
> I am worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded data 
> sets will be gone...
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
> On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, 
>> published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
>> 
>> https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> John
>> Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc
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Re: [ccp4bb] (IUCr) The evolution of raw data archiving and the growth of its importance in crystallography

2024-06-13 Thread John R Helliwell 
Dear Martin,Thankyou.Unfortunately I have no explanation to offer on proteindiffraction.org currently. Greetings,John Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DScOn 13 Jun 2024, at 10:41, Martin Malý  wrote:

  

  
  
Dear John,
Thank you for the link. It would be great if
https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I
preferred this website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or
at least they do not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am
worried that the website will disappear and also all the uploaded
data sets will be gone...
Cheers,
Martin

On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell
  wrote:


  Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
Best wishes,
John
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2024-06-13 Thread Martin Malý 

Dear John,
Thank you for the link. It would be great if 
https://proteindiffraction.org/ (IRRMC) was rescued. I preferred this 
website but they stopped receiving new data sets - or at least they do 
not reply to my emails for more than a year. I am worried that the 
website will disappear and also all the uploaded data sets will be gone...

Cheers,
Martin

On 12/06/2024 20:44, John R Helliwell wrote:

Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published 
this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
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John
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2024-06-12 Thread John R Helliwell 
Dear Colleagues,
Our article on this topic, which I imagine will be of keen interest, published 
this afternoon, is available open access from this weblink:-
https://journals.iucr.org/m/issues/2024/04/00/lt5067/index.html
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