Re: [ccp4bb] Clear Linux
David, Luckily, phoronix has also benchmarked 10 different linux OSes on a Ryzen 7 1800X and a Threadripper 1950X chip: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-linux-10way&num=3 -- Jim Fairman C: 1-240-479-6575 On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 8:16 AM David Schuller wrote: > I would be wary of an OS developed and promoted by a hardware > manufacturer (Intel). The Phoronix benchmarks you linked were conducted > on an Intel Xeon chip. I wonder how Clear OS performs with AMD chips, > which are featuring very attractive performance and price recently. > > > > On 2/7/19 10:38 AM, Karthik Paithankar wrote: > > Dear Program devs and enthusiasts, > > > > After seeing James' email (on dismal CPU performance), I was searching > > for various ideas and found the so-called "Clear Linux Project". Seems > > " function multi-version patch" leads to significant improvements. > > Though I could install the precompiled binary of CCP4 and phenix > > without any issues but there are no improvements to runtime as FMV > > needs 'patching' and compiling. > > > > Could DIALS, CCP4 or Phenix programmers see if this is > > useful/possible? Has anyone tried it? > > > > https://clearlinux.org/documentation/clear-linux/tutorials/fmv > > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=clear-faster-blas&num=1 > > > > Best regards, > > Karthik Paithankar > > > > > > > > On 30/11/2018, James Holton < > wrote: > >> I have a dissenting opinion about computers "moving on a bit". At least > >> when it comes to most crystallography software. > >> > >> Back in the late 20th century I defined some benchmarks for common > >> crystallographic programs with the aim of deciding which hardware to > >> buy. By about 2003 the champion of my refmac benchmark > >> (https://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/benchmarks/index.html#refmac) was > the > >> new (at the time) AMD "Opteron" at 1.4 GHz. That ran in 74 seconds. > >> > >> Last year, I bought a rather expensive 4-socket Intel Xeon E7-8870 v3 > >> (turbos to 3.0 GHz), which is the current champion of my XDS benchmark. > >> The same old refmac benchmark on this new machine, however, runs in 68.6 > >> seconds. Only a smidge faster than that old Opteron (which I threw away > >> years ago). > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > -- > === > All Things Serve the Beam > === > David J. Schuller > modern man in a post-modern world > MacCHESS, Cornell University > schul...@cornell.edu > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
Re: [ccp4bb] Clear Linux
I would be wary of an OS developed and promoted by a hardware manufacturer (Intel). The Phoronix benchmarks you linked were conducted on an Intel Xeon chip. I wonder how Clear OS performs with AMD chips, which are featuring very attractive performance and price recently. On 2/7/19 10:38 AM, Karthik Paithankar wrote: Dear Program devs and enthusiasts, After seeing James' email (on dismal CPU performance), I was searching for various ideas and found the so-called "Clear Linux Project". Seems " function multi-version patch" leads to significant improvements. Though I could install the precompiled binary of CCP4 and phenix without any issues but there are no improvements to runtime as FMV needs 'patching' and compiling. Could DIALS, CCP4 or Phenix programmers see if this is useful/possible? Has anyone tried it? https://clearlinux.org/documentation/clear-linux/tutorials/fmv https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=clear-faster-blas&num=1 Best regards, Karthik Paithankar On 30/11/2018, James Holton < > wrote: I have a dissenting opinion about computers "moving on a bit". At least when it comes to most crystallography software. Back in the late 20th century I defined some benchmarks for common crystallographic programs with the aim of deciding which hardware to buy. By about 2003 the champion of my refmac benchmark (https://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/benchmarks/index.html#refmac) was the new (at the time) AMD "Opteron" at 1.4 GHz. That ran in 74 seconds. Last year, I bought a rather expensive 4-socket Intel Xeon E7-8870 v3 (turbos to 3.0 GHz), which is the current champion of my XDS benchmark. The same old refmac benchmark on this new machine, however, runs in 68.6 seconds. Only a smidge faster than that old Opteron (which I threw away years ago). To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 -- === All Things Serve the Beam === David J. Schuller modern man in a post-modern world MacCHESS, Cornell University schul...@cornell.edu To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
[ccp4bb] Clear Linux
Dear Program devs and enthusiasts, After seeing James' email (on dismal CPU performance), I was searching for various ideas and found the so-called "Clear Linux Project". Seems " function multi-version patch" leads to significant improvements. Though I could install the precompiled binary of CCP4 and phenix without any issues but there are no improvements to runtime as FMV needs 'patching' and compiling. Could DIALS, CCP4 or Phenix programmers see if this is useful/possible? Has anyone tried it? https://clearlinux.org/documentation/clear-linux/tutorials/fmv https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=clear-faster-blas&num=1 Best regards, Karthik Paithankar On 30/11/2018, James Holton < > wrote: > I have a dissenting opinion about computers "moving on a bit". At least > when it comes to most crystallography software. > > Back in the late 20th century I defined some benchmarks for common > crystallographic programs with the aim of deciding which hardware to > buy. By about 2003 the champion of my refmac benchmark > (https://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/benchmarks/index.html#refmac) was the > new (at the time) AMD "Opteron" at 1.4 GHz. That ran in 74 seconds. > > Last year, I bought a rather expensive 4-socket Intel Xeon E7-8870 v3 > (turbos to 3.0 GHz), which is the current champion of my XDS benchmark. > The same old refmac benchmark on this new machine, however, runs in 68.6 > seconds. Only a smidge faster than that old Opteron (which I threw away > years ago). To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
