Re: [ccp4bb] Deletion of hydrogens

2015-05-20 Thread Nigel Moriarty
Reduce also has an option to remove hydrogens at the command line.

[phenix.]reduce -Trim model.pdb

Cheers

Nigel

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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Nikhil Bharambe nikh...@mbu.iisc.ernet.in
wrote:

 Dear Mohammad,
 You can use 'modify pdb' tool in phenix utilities and select remove
 hydrogen
 option.
 Also, if you are familiar with Vim editor in linux then there is easy
 command
 (:g/   H/d).

 Regards,

 NIKHIL G BHARAMBE,
 Ph.D Student,
 Prof. K. Suguna's Lab
 Molecular Biophysics Unit (MBU)
 IISc, Bangalore.


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[ccp4bb] Deletion of hydrogens

2015-05-19 Thread Mohammad Khan
Dear all,

I have added hydrogens on my molecule using the Refmac option in Coot.
I now want to remove them. I tried various syntax but they didn't
work. Is there a simple way to remove them from the pdb?

Moreover, if I do my refinemnets with hydrogens in it, will it affect
my results, other than maybe slowing down the process.

Thank you

Mohammad


Re: [ccp4bb] Deletion of hydrogens

2015-05-19 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Mohammad,

you can use e.g. the CCP4 tool pdbset with its keyword 'EXCLUDE
HYDROGENS'. You could also repeat the refmac run but ask refmac not to
include the hydrogen atoms in the output PDB. This is the default and
available as option from the ccp4 GUI. I don't know how to steer this
from Coot, though.

You should always include hydrogen atoms during refinement. They
improve the geometry restraints and they also have a small
contribution to the X-ray scattering, especially at low resolution.
Given their number approximately equals that of all other atoms in
your structure, this small contribution may add up.

You probably won't notice much of a slow down by including hydrogen
atoms during refinement. There are probably other bottlenecks.

Regards,
Tim

On 05/19/2015 12:55 PM, Mohammad Khan wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I have added hydrogens on my molecule using the Refmac option in
 Coot. I now want to remove them. I tried various syntax but they
 didn't work. Is there a simple way to remove them from the pdb?
 
 Moreover, if I do my refinemnets with hydrogens in it, will it
 affect my results, other than maybe slowing down the process.
 
 Thank you
 
 Mohammad
 

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Re: [ccp4bb] Deletion of hydrogens

2015-05-19 Thread Paul Emsley

On 19/05/15 11:55, Mohammad Khan wrote:

Dear all,

I have added hydrogens on my molecule using the Refmac option in Coot.
I now want to remove them. I tried various syntax but they didn't
work. Is there a simple way to remove them from the pdb?


This will create a new molecule that is a copy of molecule number 0 
without hydrogens:


(new-molecule-by-atom-selection 0 //*//*[!H])



Moreover, if I do my refinemnets with hydrogens in it, will it affect
my results, other than maybe slowing down the process.


If you use hydrogens in refinement then no (or not much).

Paul.


Re: [ccp4bb] Deletion of hydrogens

2015-05-19 Thread Nikhil Bharambe
Dear Mohammad,
You can use 'modify pdb' tool in phenix utilities and select remove hydrogen
option.
Also, if you are familiar with Vim editor in linux then there is easy command
(:g/   H/d).

Regards,

NIKHIL G BHARAMBE,
Ph.D Student,
Prof. K. Suguna's Lab
Molecular Biophysics Unit (MBU)
IISc, Bangalore.


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