Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density improvement with resolution graphic

2009-12-05 Thread Tim Gruene
You may also have a look at James Holton's page 
http://ucxray.berkeley.edu/~jamesh/movies/ and take a screenshot of one of 
his movies.

Tim

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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Brad Bennett wrote:


Hi all-
I recall seeing a long time ago a figure which showed the progressive
improvement of electron density as one increases resolution, say from 6
to 3.5 to 2A. I believe I've seen two versions- one a larger scale pic
showing the ability to model side chains of alpha helices at higher
resolutions and the other a simpler graphic of a tyrosine aromatic ring
showing the electron density hole in the middle of the ring once near
atomic resolution maps are obtained. Does anyone have, in their teaching
notes or a textbook or presentation, a graphic which displays this? I
need it for a talk this weekend and Google searches have come up blank.
If all else fails, I can generate it myself...(lazy sigh)

Thanks in advance-
Brad




[ccp4bb] Electron density improvement with resolution graphic

2009-12-04 Thread Brad Bennett
Hi all-
I recall seeing a long time ago a figure which showed the progressive
improvement of electron density as one increases resolution, say from 6 to
3.5 to 2A. I believe I've seen two versions- one a larger scale pic showing
the ability to model side chains of alpha helices at higher resolutions and
the other a simpler graphic of a tyrosine aromatic ring showing the electron
density hole in the middle of the ring once near atomic resolution maps are
obtained. Does anyone have, in their teaching notes or a textbook or
presentation, a graphic which displays this? I need it for a talk this
weekend and Google searches have come up blank. If all else fails, I can
generate it myself...(lazy sigh)

Thanks in advance-
Brad


Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density improvement with resolution graphic

2009-12-04 Thread Jim Fairman
You can find one here on the Cambridge X-ray crystallography course website:
 http://www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk/Course/Fitting/fittingtalk.html

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Brad Bennett bradbennet...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all-
 I recall seeing a long time ago a figure which showed the progressive
 improvement of electron density as one increases resolution, say from 6 to
 3.5 to 2A. I believe I've seen two versions- one a larger scale pic showing
 the ability to model side chains of alpha helices at higher resolutions and
 the other a simpler graphic of a tyrosine aromatic ring showing the electron
 density hole in the middle of the ring once near atomic resolution maps are
 obtained. Does anyone have, in their teaching notes or a textbook or
 presentation, a graphic which displays this? I need it for a talk this
 weekend and Google searches have come up blank. If all else fails, I can
 generate it myself...(lazy sigh)

 Thanks in advance-
 Brad




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Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density improvement with resolution graphic

2009-12-04 Thread Jonathan Winger
James Holton has a great little movie showing how electron density  
changes with decreasing resolution:  http://ucxray.berkeley.edu/~jamesh/movies/resolution.mpeg


Jon

On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Jim Fairman wrote:

You can find one here on the Cambridge X-ray crystallography course  
website:  http://www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk/Course/Fitting/fittingtalk.html


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Brad Bennett  
bradbennet...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all-
I recall seeing a long time ago a figure which showed the  
progressive improvement of electron density as one increases  
resolution, say from 6 to 3.5 to 2A. I believe I've seen two  
versions- one a larger scale pic showing the ability to model side  
chains of alpha helices at higher resolutions and the other a  
simpler graphic of a tyrosine aromatic ring showing the electron  
density hole in the middle of the ring once near atomic resolution  
maps are obtained. Does anyone have, in their teaching notes or a  
textbook or presentation, a graphic which displays this? I need it  
for a talk this weekend and Google searches have come up blank. If  
all else fails, I can generate it myself...(lazy sigh)


Thanks in advance-
Brad



--
Jim Fairman, Ph D.
Post-Doctoral Fellow
National Institutes of Health - NIDDK
Cell: 1-865-748-8672
Lab: 1-301-594-9230
E-mail: fairman@gmail.com james.fair...@nih.gov




Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density improvement with resolution graphic

2009-12-04 Thread Bernhard Rupp
This could be useful:

 

http://www.ruppweb.org/Xray/resolution.html

 

BR

 

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Hi all-
I recall seeing a long time ago a figure which showed the progressive
improvement of electron density as one increases resolution, say from 6 to
3.5 to 2A. I believe I've seen two versions- one a larger scale pic showing
the ability to model side chains of alpha helices at higher resolutions and
the other a simpler graphic of a tyrosine aromatic ring showing the electron
density hole in the middle of the ring once near atomic resolution maps are
obtained. Does anyone have, in their teaching notes or a textbook or
presentation, a graphic which displays this? I need it for a talk this
weekend and Google searches have come up blank. If all else fails, I can
generate it myself...(lazy sigh)

Thanks in advance-
Brad