[ccp4bb] Generating Restraints for a Synthetic Peptide

2015-06-23 Thread Sean Fanning
Dear CCP4 Users,
I have a structure containing a synthetic alpha helical peptide (similar to
the one found in PDB: 2YJD) for which I need to generate the restraints
(.cif). I have the PDB coordinates for the peptide but need the .cif for
refinement/fitting. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could
generate this file?
Thank you very much,
Sean Fanning


Re: [ccp4bb] Generating Restraints for a Synthetic Peptide

2015-06-23 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Sean Fanning,

you could try the grade server (grade.globalphasing.org). I don't know
its size limit. It recognizes the ligand YJD from 2YJD and produces
restraints for it.

In your case you may need to generate the mol2 file or SMILES string. I
think openbabel could generate the mol2 file from the PDB file, I
haven't tried.

Best,
Tim

On 06/23/2015 05:17 PM, Sean Fanning wrote:
 Dear CCP4 Users,
 I have a structure containing a synthetic alpha helical peptide (similar to
 the one found in PDB: 2YJD) for which I need to generate the restraints
 (.cif). I have the PDB coordinates for the peptide but need the .cif for
 refinement/fitting. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could
 generate this file?
 Thank you very much,
 Sean Fanning
 

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Re: [ccp4bb] Generating Restraints for a Synthetic Peptide

2015-06-23 Thread Jim Fairman
Phenix should also work nicely:

phenix.elbow inputfile.smi --opt

Inputfile can be one of many different file formats (ie: smiles, sdf, pdb,
etc.)

The --opt flag runs an AM1 geometry optimization that usually produces
superior restraints as compared to running without it.

Cheers, Jim

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 10:27 AM Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:

 Dear Sean Fanning,

 you could try the grade server (grade.globalphasing.org). I don't know
 its size limit. It recognizes the ligand YJD from 2YJD and produces
 restraints for it.

 In your case you may need to generate the mol2 file or SMILES string. I
 think openbabel could generate the mol2 file from the PDB file, I
 haven't tried.

 Best,
 Tim

 On 06/23/2015 05:17 PM, Sean Fanning wrote:
  Dear CCP4 Users,
  I have a structure containing a synthetic alpha helical peptide (similar
 to
  the one found in PDB: 2YJD) for which I need to generate the restraints
  (.cif). I have the PDB coordinates for the peptide but need the .cif for
  refinement/fitting. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could
  generate this file?
  Thank you very much,
  Sean Fanning
 

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 Dr Tim Gruene
 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
 Tammannstr. 4
 D-37077 Goettingen
 phone: +49 (0)551 39 22149

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Re: [ccp4bb] Generating Restraints for a Synthetic Peptide

2015-06-23 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Sean, 

 

For a synthetic peptide, you should only make restraints for the non-standard 
amino acids that are not already in the dictionary. You can do this graphically 
in jLigand which is part of CCP4. If you give the atoms names consistent with 
regular amino acids and define the compounds as ‘peptide’ you don’t even have 
to create LINK records to make things run in Refmac/COOT. 

Note that the PDB will break up a synthetic peptide into residues and rename 
things if you do treat the peptide a one compound. This may cause conflicts 
between the final structure model and the figures in the paper describing it. 
It’s better to avoid the issue by doing things properly in the first place.

 

Cheers,

Robbie

 

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Phenix should also work nicely:

phenix.elbow inputfile.smi --opt

Inputfile can be one of many different file formats (ie: smiles, sdf, pdb, etc.)

The --opt flag runs an AM1 geometry optimization that usually produces superior 
restraints as compared to running without it.

Cheers, Jim

 

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 10:27 AM Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de 
mailto:t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de  wrote:

Dear Sean Fanning,

you could try the grade server (grade.globalphasing.org 
http://grade.globalphasing.org ). I don't know
its size limit. It recognizes the ligand YJD from 2YJD and produces
restraints for it.

In your case you may need to generate the mol2 file or SMILES string. I
think openbabel could generate the mol2 file from the PDB file, I
haven't tried.

Best,
Tim

On 06/23/2015 05:17 PM, Sean Fanning wrote:
 Dear CCP4 Users,
 I have a structure containing a synthetic alpha helical peptide (similar to
 the one found in PDB: 2YJD) for which I need to generate the restraints
 (.cif). I have the PDB coordinates for the peptide but need the .cif for
 refinement/fitting. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could
 generate this file?
 Thank you very much,
 Sean Fanning


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Re: [ccp4bb] Generating Restraints for a Synthetic Peptide

2015-06-23 Thread Nigel Moriarty
You can also do it using ReadySet! which makes all the calls to eLBOW.

phenix.ready_set 2yjd.pdb

phenix.geometry_minimization 2yjd.updated.pdb 2yjd.link.edits
2yjd.ligands.cif

Cheers

Nigel

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Jim Fairman fairman@gmail.com wrote:

 Phenix should also work nicely:

 phenix.elbow inputfile.smi --opt

 Inputfile can be one of many different file formats (ie: smiles, sdf, pdb,
 etc.)

 The --opt flag runs an AM1 geometry optimization that usually produces
 superior restraints as compared to running without it.

 Cheers, Jim

 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 10:27 AM Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:

 Dear Sean Fanning,

 you could try the grade server (grade.globalphasing.org). I don't know
 its size limit. It recognizes the ligand YJD from 2YJD and produces
 restraints for it.

 In your case you may need to generate the mol2 file or SMILES string. I
 think openbabel could generate the mol2 file from the PDB file, I
 haven't tried.

 Best,
 Tim

 On 06/23/2015 05:17 PM, Sean Fanning wrote:
  Dear CCP4 Users,
  I have a structure containing a synthetic alpha helical peptide
 (similar to
  the one found in PDB: 2YJD) for which I need to generate the restraints
  (.cif). I have the PDB coordinates for the peptide but need the .cif for
  refinement/fitting. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could
  generate this file?
  Thank you very much,
  Sean Fanning
 

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 --
 Dr Tim Gruene
 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
 Tammannstr. 4
 D-37077 Goettingen
 phone: +49 (0)551 39 22149

 GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A