Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
The Viewsonic and Samsung monitors are both 1680x1050 resolution. A new crop of monitors came out last year with 1920x1080 resolution. We have an Acer GD235HZ and a Planar SA2311W, each operating off a Quadro 3800 with the optional stereo connector. Other monitor models compatible with the nVidia 3D Vision are listed here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-requirements.html The sync signal to the glasses is infrared, so if you have two systems interfering with each other you can try to restrict the spread from the transmitter with a paper cone, or by careful placement of equipment, or some such. On 03/01/2011 08:39 AM, Harry M. Greenblatt wrote: BS"D Dear Andreas We have several examples of Linux working with the Quadro FX3800 with the optional 3pin connector, and either the Viewsonic 3D display, or the Samsung 2233RZ On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Andreas Eichinger wrote: Dear colleagues, We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor -- === All Things Serve the Beam === David J. Schuller modern man in a post-modern world MacCHESS, Cornell University schul...@cornell.edu
Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
Dear Harry, as you mention two screens: have you ever tried to use two 3D screens? We currently have that setup but are not too happy with it. So I wonder if its a general problem or very specific to our setup. Best regards, Alexander From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Harry M. Greenblatt Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:40 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision BS"D Dear Andreas We have several examples of Linux working with the Quadro FX3800 with the optional 3pin connector, and either the Viewsonic 3D display, or the Samsung 2233RZ. We find the Samsung to have better image quality. As noted by others, in Europe you must specifically ask for the 3pin cable, since this is not bundled with the glasses, as it was (still is??) in North America. We use the consumer grade product, since we have no need for long range viewing. As Carsten noted you can also use two screens, and we have one working example of this (Viewsonic 3D, and LG normal). Harry On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Andreas Eichinger wrote: Dear colleagues, We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor and a Nvidia 3D vision glasses kit on a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. According to Nvidia, a Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 4600 or Quadro FX 3700 graphics card can be used for 3D on Linux if it is connected via a 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector. Has somebody experience with such a setup? Any help is kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Andreas Eichinger - Harry M. Greenblatt Associate Staff Scientist Dept of Structural Biology harry.greenbl...@weizmann.ac.il Weizmann Institute of SciencePhone: 972-8-934-3625 Rehovot, 76100 Facsimile: 972-8-934-4159 Israel
Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
BS"D Dear Andreas We have several examples of Linux working with the Quadro FX3800 with the optional 3pin connector, and either the Viewsonic 3D display, or the Samsung 2233RZ. We find the Samsung to have better image quality. As noted by others, in Europe you must specifically ask for the 3pin cable, since this is not bundled with the glasses, as it was (still is??) in North America. We use the consumer grade product, since we have no need for long range viewing. As Carsten noted you can also use two screens, and we have one working example of this (Viewsonic 3D, and LG normal). Harry On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Andreas Eichinger wrote: Dear colleagues, We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor and a Nvidia 3D vision glasses kit on a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. According to Nvidia, a Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 4600 or Quadro FX 3700 graphics card can be used for 3D on Linux if it is connected via a 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector. Has somebody experience with such a setup? Any help is kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Andreas Eichinger - Harry M. Greenblatt Associate Staff Scientist Dept of Structural Biology harry.greenbl...@weizmann.ac.il Weizmann Institute of SciencePhone: 972-8-934-3625 Rehovot, 76100 Facsimile: 972-8-934-4159 Israel
Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
Andreas, I can only second what Chris was saying. We have the same setup (FX3800 with separate riser for stereo connection) used in all of our machines and it works very well. In terms of monitor I would recommend to spend a bit more money and go with an Alienware or Asus 3D LCD, both are running at 1920x1080, vs. 1680x1050. There may be newer ones out there with the same capabilities, but you need to make sure the driver supports the newer monitors. Initially the ASUS monitors were not supported in the 195.xx.xx series of drivers, but it worked after updating to the latest drivers. I personally prefer the Alienware since it has a matte finish, but the quality on both is excellent. As for the kit, I ran into the issue were the 3D vision kit was bundled with the Asus monitors and they were missing the stereo cables, I suppose they were bundled for the European market. NVIDIA support was unwilling to send me the missing cables even though we are using quite a bit of their hardware, so much for customer support... So beware when you are buying the cheaper bundles. The Nvidia website has a list of the Kits, which include the stereo cable. Also another thing to watch out for is not to confuse the newer 3D Vision Pro line with the older consumer grade line. The Pro line emitter work on RF vs. the older grade emitters work on IR. As far as I know they are not compatible. You can even run stereo in dual-monitor mode. That's how I reuse old LCDs. One LCD for stereo, the other adds more real-estate. Haven't found a reliable way to get this to work from the get-go though. I suppose it's is a problem with our outdated X-server, but can be overcome with the nvidia-settings tool. HTH Carsten > -Original Message- > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of > Chris Richardson > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:27 AM > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision > > >>> Andreas Eichinger 03/01/11 9:24 AM >>> > > > We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung > > SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor and a Nvidia 3D vision glasses kit on a > > Redhat Enterprise Linux box. According to Nvidia, a Quadro FX 4800, > > Quadro FX 4600 or Quadro FX 3700 graphics card can be used for 3D on > > Linux if it is connected via a 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector. Has > > somebody experience with such a setup? > > The FX 3800 will also work, but it doesn't have a mini-DIN connector. > You can buy a separate riser fitted with the connector, which mounts in > a spare slot next to the card and connects to it by a cable. This is > made by PNY, part number 900-50762--000. In our experience, an FX > 3800 and separate riser is a lot cheaper than a card with a built-in > DIN connector. > > When you buy the 3D Vision glasses kit, check that it contains the > mini-DIN to emitter cable. At one stage this was included in kits for > the US market, but not in kits for Europe. This may have changed. > > We use the same monitor with an FX 3800 and 3D vision glasses kit on a > couple of machines and are very impressed with the quality of the > stereo. The glasses are a lot nicer than the old models, and it's nice > being able to recharge them by USB rather than constantly swapping > batteries because someone left the arms open and the glasses active > overnight. > > Regards, > > Chris > > The Institute of Cancer Research: Royal Cancer Hospital, a charitable > Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in England under Company No. > 534147 with its Registered Office at 123 Old Brompton Road, London SW7 > 3RP. > > This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. > If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please > return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the > message from your computer and network.
Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
>>> Andreas Eichinger 03/01/11 9:24 AM >>> > We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung > SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor and a Nvidia 3D vision glasses kit on a > Redhat Enterprise Linux box. According to Nvidia, a Quadro FX 4800, > Quadro FX 4600 or Quadro FX 3700 graphics card can be used for 3D on > Linux if it is connected via a 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector. Has > somebody experience with such a setup? The FX 3800 will also work, but it doesn't have a mini-DIN connector. You can buy a separate riser fitted with the connector, which mounts in a spare slot next to the card and connects to it by a cable. This is made by PNY, part number 900-50762--000. In our experience, an FX 3800 and separate riser is a lot cheaper than a card with a built-in DIN connector. When you buy the 3D Vision glasses kit, check that it contains the mini-DIN to emitter cable. At one stage this was included in kits for the US market, but not in kits for Europe. This may have changed. We use the same monitor with an FX 3800 and 3D vision glasses kit on a couple of machines and are very impressed with the quality of the stereo. The glasses are a lot nicer than the old models, and it's nice being able to recharge them by USB rather than constantly swapping batteries because someone left the arms open and the glasses active overnight. Regards, Chris The Institute of Cancer Research: Royal Cancer Hospital, a charitable Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in England under Company No. 534147 with its Registered Office at 123 Old Brompton Road, London SW7 3RP. This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer and network.
Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
Yes, we recently installed such a system and it works very well. Minor drawback: the 3D Vision system interferes with the older 3D stereo (NuVision) system - we have 4 stereo workstations in the same room, 3 old and one new. We don't know yet whether there are interference problems between machines with 3D Vision in the same room. Regards, Pedro Matias At 09:14 01-03-2011, Andreas Eichinger wrote: Dear colleagues, We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor and a Nvidia 3D vision glasses kit on a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. According to Nvidia, a Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 4600 or Quadro FX 3700 graphics card can be used for 3D on Linux if it is connected via a 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector. Has somebody experience with such a setup? Any help is kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Andreas Eichinger Industry and Medicine Applied Crystallography Macromolecular Crystallography Unit ___ Phones : (351-21) 446-9100 Ext. 1669 (351-21) 446-9669 (direct) Fax : (351-21) 441-1277 or 443-3644 email : mat...@itqb.unl.pt http://www.itqb.unl.pt/research/biological-chemistry/industry-and-medicine-applied-crystallography http://www.itqb.unl.pt/labs/macromolecular-crystallography-unit Mailing address : Instituto de Tecnologia Quimica e Biologica Apartado 127 2781-901 OEIRAS Portugal
[ccp4bb] Graphics card for Nvidia 3D vision
Dear colleagues, We are currently setting up a new 3D workstation with a Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ monitor and a Nvidia 3D vision glasses kit on a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. According to Nvidia, a Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 4600 or Quadro FX 3700 graphics card can be used for 3D on Linux if it is connected via a 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector. Has somebody experience with such a setup? Any help is kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Andreas Eichinger
