Re: [ccp4bb] Ion exchange protein lost

2010-05-12 Thread Ursula Schulze-Gahmen
Like Juergen suggested, your protein is most likely stuck to the column, 
either because it never was really was refolded or because it doesn't 
like to be at pH 4.5. Do you really need such a low pH to have it bind 
to source 15S. Check the pI of the protein and perhaps some different pH 
buffer or try an anion exchange column if possible.



Ursula

On 5/11/10 7:53 PM, megha goyal wrote:

Hi all,
 
 
Our protein is gcsf. We solubilize the inclusion bodies in 8M urea and 
0.1M cysteine and then dilute it 1:20 in refodling buffer 0.1% tween 
20 pH 8.2. Then we perform concentration using proflux M12 [just 
concentration and not diafiltration]. Adjust the pH of concentrate to 
4.5 and load it to source 15S resin [strong cation exchange]. The 
problem is we do not recover our protein on performing IEX. HPLC and 
absorbance reading on concentrate show the presence of our protein. 
Buffer for loading is 25 mM na acetate pH 4.5 and elution is same 
buffer with 0.5 M NaCl. No protein is lost in flow thru and even 2M 
Nacl washing does not show our protein. . Only when we perform NaOH 
wash we do see some peak but could not analyse it as it is too 
alkaline and cant run on SDS PAGE or HPLC.


 

What could be the reason. Where do we lose our protein. Kindly shed 
some light on this on where shall I be going wrong.
 
thanks and regards,
 
meg


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Re: [ccp4bb] Ion exchange protein lost

2010-05-12 Thread Nadir T. Mrabet

Human gcsf has a pI ~ 6.
As Ursula suggests you might be better off with anion exchange.
There are protocols that show you can both refold and purify onto such 
column type.


Nadir

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On 12/05/2010 19:17, Ursula Schulze-Gahmen wrote:
Like Juergen suggested, your protein is most likely stuck to the 
column, either because it never was really was refolded or because it 
doesn't like to be at pH 4.5. Do you really need such a low pH to have 
it bind to source 15S. Check the pI of the protein and perhaps some 
different pH buffer or try an anion exchange column if possible.



Ursula

On 5/11/10 7:53 PM, megha goyal wrote:

Hi all,
Our protein is gcsf. We solubilize the inclusion bodies in 8M urea 
and 0.1M cysteine and then dilute it 1:20 in refodling buffer 0.1% 
tween 20 pH 8.2. Then we perform concentration using proflux M12 
[just concentration and not diafiltration]. Adjust the pH of 
concentrate to 4.5 and load it to source 15S resin [strong cation 
exchange]. The problem is we do not recover our protein on performing 
IEX. HPLC and absorbance reading on concentrate show the presence of 
our protein. Buffer for loading is 25 mM na acetate pH 4.5 and 
elution is same buffer with 0.5 M NaCl. No protein is lost in flow 
thru and even 2M Nacl washing does not show our protein. . Only when 
we perform NaOH wash we do see some peak but could not analyse it as 
it is too alkaline and cant run on SDS PAGE or HPLC.


What could be the reason. Where do we lose our protein. Kindly shed 
some light on this on where shall I be going wrong.

thanks and regards,
meg


--
Ursula Schulze-Gahmen, PhD.
QB3, Tjian Lab
MCB, 16 Barker Hall #3204
University of California Berkeley
Berkeley, CA 94720-3204
Phone: (510) 642 8258
uschulze-gah...@lbl.gov

   


[ccp4bb] Ion exchange protein lost

2010-05-11 Thread megha goyal
Hi all,


Our protein is gcsf. We solubilize the inclusion bodies in 8M urea and 0.1M
cysteine and then dilute it 1:20 in refodling buffer 0.1% tween 20 pH 8.2.
Then we perform concentration using proflux M12 [just concentration and not
diafiltration]. Adjust the pH of concentrate to 4.5 and load it to source
15S resin [strong cation exchange]. The problem is we do not recover our
protein on performing IEX. HPLC and absorbance reading on concentrate show
the presence of our protein. Buffer for loading is 25 mM na acetate pH 4.5
and elution is same buffer with 0.5 M NaCl. No protein is lost in flow thru
and even 2M Nacl washing does not show our protein. . Only when we perform
NaOH wash we do see some peak but could not analyse it as it is too alkaline
and cant run on SDS PAGE or HPLC.


What could be the reason. Where do we lose our protein. Kindly shed some
light on this on where shall I be going wrong.

thanks and regards,

meg


Re: [ccp4bb] Ion exchange protein lost

2010-05-11 Thread Jürgen Bosch
Hi Megha,

how about your protein is stuck to the top of your column ?
How does your pressure look like before injection and after injection ?
What makes you believe that you have successfully refolded your protein ?

Just some thoughts,

Jürgen

On May 11, 2010, at 10:53 PM, megha goyal wrote:

 Hi all,
  
  
 Our protein is gcsf. We solubilize the inclusion bodies in 8M urea and 0.1M 
 cysteine and then dilute it 1:20 in refodling buffer 0.1% tween 20 pH 8.2. 
 Then we perform concentration using proflux M12 [just concentration and not 
 diafiltration]. Adjust the pH of concentrate to 4.5 and load it to source 15S 
 resin [strong cation exchange]. The problem is we do not recover our protein 
 on performing IEX. HPLC and absorbance reading on concentrate show the 
 presence of our protein. Buffer for loading is 25 mM na acetate pH 4.5 and 
 elution is same buffer with 0.5 M NaCl. No protein is lost in flow thru and 
 even 2M Nacl washing does not show our protein. . Only when we perform NaOH 
 wash we do see some peak but could not analyse it as it is too alkaline and 
 cant run on SDS PAGE or HPLC.
  
 What could be the reason. Where do we lose our protein. Kindly shed some 
 light on this on where shall I be going wrong.
  
 thanks and regards,
  
 meg

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