[ccp4bb] Polarizing filter

2009-01-21 Thread Terje Dokland
We are looking to buy a polarizing filter for our Leica  
stereomicroscope that we use to observe crystals. However, I am a  
little confused about the types of filters  that are available from  
photography stores; specifically there are linear and circular  
polarizers. I would guess that what I need is a linear polarizing  
filter that can rotate, though these are harder to find than the  
circular polarizers that seem to be more common for general  
photography. Any advice? Thanks,

Terje



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Terje Dokland, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Microbiology
University of Alabama at Birmingham
845 19th St South, BBRB 311
Birmingham, AL 35294
Tel:(205) 996 4502
Fax:(205) 996 2667

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Re: [ccp4bb] Polarizing filter

2009-01-21 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Edmunds Optics and Prinz sell linear polarizers

of nearly any thread type/combination, as well as unmounted.

Probably cheaper than Leica.

 

Perhaps search the Edmunds site

http://www.edmundoptics.com/onlinecatalog/browse.cfm?categoryid=166

 

BR

 

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Dokland
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:16 AM
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Polarizing filter

 

We are looking to buy a polarizing filter for our Leica stereomicroscope
that we use to observe crystals. However, I am a little confused about the
types of filters  that are available from photography stores; specifically
there are linear and circular polarizers. I would guess that what I need
is a linear polarizing filter that can rotate, though these are harder to
find than the circular polarizers that seem to be more common for general
photography. Any advice? Thanks,

Terje

 

 

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Terje Dokland, PhD

Associate Professor

Department of Microbiology

University of Alabama at Birmingham

845 19th St South, BBRB 311

Birmingham, AL 35294

Tel: (205) 996 4502

Fax:(205) 996 2667

 

Do. Or do not. There is no try.   -- Master Yoda





 



Re: [ccp4bb] Polarizing filter

2009-01-21 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi Terje,

I think the circular polarizers are really linear polarizers with a 1/4-wave 
retarder (which make the polarized light circular again) sticked to the back. 

The reason for them selling the CPs these days is because that digital cameras 
will have problem metering with LPs. But for human eyes, both should work if 
you use it properly - meaning looking from the 1/4-wave plate side. And if you 
are using another one for generating the polarized light, you should make sure 
the polarizer side is facing the sample, and the 1/4-wave plate side is facing 
the light source.


(a) If you place it so that the polarizer side faces the light source (this is 
the normal photographic setup):
normal circular light---|- polarizer-|-linearly polarized 
light-|-1/4-wave plate-|-circularized light again. 

(b)If you place it so that the 1/4 retarder is facing the light source:
 light---|-1/4wave plate-|-circular 
light-|-polarizer-|-linearly polarized light

As you can see, with setup (b) you can generate polarized light, while with (a) 
you can filter the light to only let light with certain polarized angle to pass 
through.

Normally the CP filters you get from photographic stores has the polarizer side 
facing outside, and the 1/4-wave plate facing the camera. If you are not sure, 
you can use a mirror to check it: put the filter between you and the mirror, 
look through the filter, if it looks transparent, then the polarizer side is 
facing the mirror, if the light looks significantly darkened, then the 
polarizer side is facing you. There is a youtube video that shows it: 
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVIo9C0NDA
 

Zhijie

- Original Message - 
  From: Terje Dokland 
  To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:16 PM
  Subject: [ccp4bb] Polarizing filter


  We are looking to buy a polarizing filter for our Leica stereomicroscope that 
we use to observe crystals. However, I am a little confused about the types of 
filters  that are available from photography stores; specifically there are 
linear and circular polarizers. I would guess that what I need is a linear 
polarizing filter that can rotate, though these are harder to find than the 
circular polarizers that seem to be more common for general photography. Any 
advice? Thanks,
  Terje




  ---

  Terje Dokland, PhD

  Associate Professor

  Department of Microbiology

  University of Alabama at Birmingham

  845 19th St South, BBRB 311

  Birmingham, AL 35294

  Tel: (205) 996 4502

  Fax: (205) 996 2667




  Do. Or do not. There is no try.   -- Master Yoda