Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge,R-meas > 1 in outermost resolution shell

2014-06-03 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear sreetama,

I have published data with Rmerge > 5 in the outer resolution shell and
could reason this the way Phil Evans explained to you yesterday.

Best regards,
Tim

On 06/03/2014 11:19 AM, sreetama das wrote:
> Dear All,
>   What are reasonable values of Rmerge in the outermost 
> resolution shell? 
> 
> 
> Some of the recent discussions suggest using data up to those shells where 
>  ~2 and CC1/2 = 0.5.
> But I am getting Rmerge & Rmeas > 1 in the outermost shell for those values 
> of  and CC1/2.
> Reducing the resolution
>  cut-off while data reduction & scaling (aimless) reduces the R-values, but I 
> am not sure how much I should reduce the resolution (if at all). 
> 
> Following are the results from the aimless log file:
> At a resolution cut-off of 1.62A:
>Overall  InnerShell  OuterShell
> Low resolution limit   42.12 42.12  1.65
> High resolution limit   1.62  8.87  1.62
> 
> Rmerge  (within
>  I+/I-) 0.071 0.019 1.325
> Rmerge  (all I+ and I-)0.074 0.020 1.381
> Rmeas (within I+/I-)   0.078 0.021 1.446
> Rmeas (all I+ & I-)0.077 0.022 1.441
> Rpim (within
>  I+/I-)0.031 0.009 0.575
> Rpim (all I+ & I-) 0.022 0.007 0.410
> Rmerge in top intensity bin0.031- - 
> Total number of observations  311022  1839 14876
> Total number
>  unique25311   184  1212
> Mean((I)/sd(I)) 19.2  52.7   2.0
> Mn(I) half-set correlation CC(1/2) 1.000 1.000 0.740
> Completeness   100.0  99.4
>  100.0
> Multiplicity12.3  10.0  12.3
> 
> If I take improved resolution cut-off (1.6A, 1.57A), the  and CC1/2 
> in the outermost shell are lower, and the R-merge,meas,pim are higher. No 
> resolution cut-off was used while integrating the data (imosflm), only a mask 
> for the beam stop was used.
> 
> 
> looking forward to your suggestions,
> thanking you,
> sreetama
> 

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[ccp4bb] R-merge,R-meas > 1 in outermost resolution shell

2014-06-03 Thread sreetama das
Dear All,
  What are reasonable values of Rmerge in the outermost resolution 
shell? 


Some of the recent discussions suggest using data up to those shells where 
 ~2 and CC1/2 = 0.5.
But I am getting Rmerge & Rmeas > 1 in the outermost shell for those values of 
 and CC1/2.
Reducing the resolution
 cut-off while data reduction & scaling (aimless) reduces the R-values, but I 
am not sure how much I should reduce the resolution (if at all). 

Following are the results from the aimless log file:
At a resolution cut-off of 1.62A:
   Overall  InnerShell  OuterShell
Low resolution limit   42.12 42.12  1.65
High resolution limit   1.62  8.87  1.62

Rmerge  (within
 I+/I-) 0.071 0.019 1.325
Rmerge  (all I+ and I-)    0.074 0.020 1.381
Rmeas (within I+/I-)   0.078 0.021 1.446
Rmeas (all I+ & I-)    0.077 0.022 1.441
Rpim (within
 I+/I-)    0.031 0.009 0.575
Rpim (all I+ & I-) 0.022 0.007 0.410
Rmerge in top intensity bin    0.031    - - 
Total number of observations  311022  1839 14876
Total number
 unique    25311   184  1212
Mean((I)/sd(I)) 19.2  52.7   2.0
Mn(I) half-set correlation CC(1/2) 1.000 1.000 0.740
Completeness   100.0  99.4
 100.0
Multiplicity    12.3  10.0  12.3

If I take improved resolution cut-off (1.6A, 1.57A), the  and CC1/2 
in the outermost shell are lower, and the R-merge,meas,pim are higher. No 
resolution cut-off was used while integrating the data (imosflm), only a mask 
for the beam stop was used.


looking forward to your suggestions,
thanking you,
sreetama