Re: [ccp4bb] TLSANL total B factor question

2010-05-21 Thread Martyn Winn
That was a bug in TLSANL, introduced in 6.1.0 and fixed in 6.1.2. 
So you need to update your CCP4, or at least extract a newer tlsanl
binary. Apologies for that.

Martyn

On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 04:46 +0100, Shiva Kumar wrote:
 Dear Crystallographers
 
 I am trying to  print out my total B factors using TLSANL (version: 6.1) in 
 CCP4- 6.1.1.   My TLSANL’s input file.pdb is coming from refmac (version: 
 5.5.0072) using the TLS  restraint refinement option and isotropic B 
 factors. The TLSANL’s output file.pdb contains the following ATOM and ANISOU 
 records as an example.
 
 REMARK   3  TLS DETAILS
 REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  :2
 REMARK   3   ATOM RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL B FACTORS
 REMARK   3   ANISOU RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL U FACTORS
 
 ATOM 88  C   ASN A  14   0.748  -5.841  -6.258  1.00 35.84   C
 ANISOU   88  C   ASN A  14 5335   4549   3734  0  0  0   C
 ATOM 89  O   ASN A  14   0.807  -6.941  -6.845  1.00 35.04   O
 ANISOU   89  O   ASN A  14 5229   4375   3709  0  0  0   O
 
 
 I am not able to understand why my ANISOU record contains ‘0 0 0’ for the 
 anisotropic component.  Something is not correct and I'm not sure why I am 
 not able to print out my total B factors.
 
 I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what is going wrong and how 
 can I print my total B factors.
 
 
 Thanks
 Regards
 Shiva Kumar
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Re: [ccp4bb] TLSANL total B factor question

2010-05-21 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
Hi Shiva,
  Not directly related to the problem you reported, but I wanted
to warn you that in refmac 5.5.0072 the default is for the keyword
TLSD WATERS ADD 
to be applied.  This keyword tells refmac to assign all of
your water molecules to existing TLS groups.  (It does this quietly
without any notice as to which waters are assigned to which 
groups in the TLS header of the pdb, TLSOUT or to the log file
and no listing of the default setting of this keyword in the logfile.)
So unless you included the non-default keyword
TLSD WATERS EXCLUDE
then your waters have residual B's as well in your pdb file
and TLSANL cannot convert them to full B's since it has no
record of which waters belong to which TLS groups.  Thus the
output from TLSANL will be a file with mixed full (on protein
atoms) and residual (on water atoms) B-factors.
  If you did not give the keyword TLSD WATERS EXCLUDE, then
the only method I know to ensure that the B-factors on the waters
are properly converted to full-B is to re-run your last refmac job
and add the keyword 
TLSO ADDU
which will give you full B's on your output. (Note that you should
not use this file for input into another round of refmac refinement
-- unless you do a B-factor reset first).

Regards,
Mitch


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Kumar
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:46 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] TLSANL total B factor question

Dear Crystallographers

I am trying to  print out my total B factors using TLSANL (version: 6.1) in 
CCP4- 6.1.1.   My TLSANL’s input file.pdb is coming from refmac (version: 
5.5.0072) using the TLS  restraint refinement option and isotropic B factors. 
The TLSANL’s output file.pdb contains the following ATOM and ANISOU records as 
an example.

REMARK   3  TLS DETAILS
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  :2
REMARK   3   ATOM RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL B FACTORS
REMARK   3   ANISOU RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL U FACTORS

ATOM 88  C   ASN A  14   0.748  -5.841  -6.258  1.00 35.84   C
ANISOU   88  C   ASN A  14 5335   4549   3734  0  0  0   C
ATOM 89  O   ASN A  14   0.807  -6.941  -6.845  1.00 35.04   O
ANISOU   89  O   ASN A  14 5229   4375   3709  0  0  0   O


I am not able to understand why my ANISOU record contains ‘0 0 0’ for the 
anisotropic component.  Something is not correct and I'm not sure why I am not 
able to print out my total B factors.

I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what is going wrong and how can 
I print my total B factors.


Thanks
Regards
Shiva Kumar


[ccp4bb] TLSANL total B factor question

2010-05-20 Thread Shiva Kumar
Dear Crystallographers

I am trying to  print out my total B factors using TLSANL (version: 6.1) in 
CCP4- 6.1.1.   My TLSANL’s input file.pdb is coming from refmac (version: 
5.5.0072) using the TLS  restraint refinement option and isotropic B factors. 
The TLSANL’s output file.pdb contains the following ATOM and ANISOU records as 
an example.

REMARK   3  TLS DETAILS
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  :2
REMARK   3   ATOM RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL B FACTORS
REMARK   3   ANISOU RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL U FACTORS

ATOM 88  C   ASN A  14   0.748  -5.841  -6.258  1.00 35.84   C
ANISOU   88  C   ASN A  14 5335   4549   3734  0  0  0   C
ATOM 89  O   ASN A  14   0.807  -6.941  -6.845  1.00 35.04   O
ANISOU   89  O   ASN A  14 5229   4375   3709  0  0  0   O


I am not able to understand why my ANISOU record contains ‘0 0 0’ for the 
anisotropic component.  Something is not correct and I'm not sure why I am not 
able to print out my total B factors.

I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what is going wrong and how can 
I print my total B factors.


Thanks
Regards
Shiva Kumar


Re: [ccp4bb] TLSANL total B factor question

2010-05-20 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 20 May 2010, Shiva Kumar wrote:
 Dear Crystallographers
 
 I am trying to  print out my total B factors using TLSANL (version: 6.1) in 
 CCP4- 6.1.1.   My TLSANL’s input file.pdb is coming from refmac (version: 
 5.5.0072) using the TLS  restraint refinement option and isotropic B 
 factors. The TLSANL’s output file.pdb contains the following ATOM and ANISOU 
 records as an example.
 
 REMARK   3  TLS DETAILS
 REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  :2
 REMARK   3   ATOM RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL B FACTORS
 REMARK   3   ANISOU RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL U FACTORS
 
 ATOM 88  C   ASN A  14   0.748  -5.841  -6.258  1.00 35.84   C
 ANISOU   88  C   ASN A  14 5335   4549   3734  0  0  0   C
 ATOM 89  O   ASN A  14   0.807  -6.941  -6.845  1.00 35.04   O
 ANISOU   89  O   ASN A  14 5229   4375   3709  0  0  0   O
 
 
 I am not able to understand why my ANISOU record contains ‘0 0 0’ for the 
 anisotropic component.  
 Something is not correct and I'm not sure why I am not able to print out my 
 total B factors.

The simplest explanation would be that those particular atoms are not in any
TLS group, and therefore they have only an isotropic ADP component.
If that is not the case, please show the contents of the header records that
describe these 2 TLS groups.

Ethan



 
 I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what is going wrong and how 
 can I print my total B factors.
 
 
 Thanks
 Regards
 Shiva Kumar
 


Re: [ccp4bb] TLSANL total B factor question

2010-05-20 Thread Shiva Kumar
The simplest explanation would be that those particular atoms are not in any
TLS group, and therefore they have only an isotropic ADP component.

Unfortunately, the '0 0 0' for the anisotropic component in ANISOU record is 
for all of my protein atoms.

If that is not the case, please show the contents of the header records that
describe these 2 TLS groups.

The header records are:

   
REMARK   3  
REMARK   3  TLS DETAILS 
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  :2   
REMARK   3   ATOM RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL B FACTORS
REMARK   3   ANISOU RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL U FACTORS
REMARK   3  
REMARK   3   TLS GROUP : 1  
REMARK   3NUMBER OF COMPONENTS GROUP :1 
REMARK   3COMPONENTSC SSSEQI   TO  C SSSEQI 
REMARK   3RESIDUE RANGE :   A4A  372
REMARK   3ORIGIN FOR THE GROUP (A):   5.8065  -0.6242 -14.8498  
REMARK   3T TENSOR  
REMARK   3  T11:   0.0568 T22:   0.0595 
REMARK   3  T33:   0.0153 T12:  -0.0103 
REMARK   3  T13:   0.0065 T23:   0.0022 
REMARK   3L TENSOR  
REMARK   3  L11:   1.1685 L22:   1.8292 
REMARK   3  L33:   0.8417 L12:   0.0945 
REMARK   3  L13:   0.2145 L23:   0.5509 
REMARK   3S TENSOR  
REMARK   3  S11:   0.0110 S12:  -0.1328 S13:  -0.1118   
REMARK   3  S21:   0.2334 S22:   0.0025 S23:  -0.0249   
REMARK   3  S31:   0.1311 S32:   0.0150 S33:  -0.0134   
REMARK   3  
REMARK   3   TLS GROUP : 2  
REMARK   3NUMBER OF COMPONENTS GROUP :1 
REMARK   3COMPONENTSC SSSEQI   TO  C SSSEQI 
REMARK   3RESIDUE RANGE :   A  373A  469
REMARK   3ORIGIN FOR THE GROUP (A):   1.9633  16.6927   8.0263  
REMARK   3T TENSOR  
REMARK   3  T11:   0.0322 T22:   0.0531 
REMARK   3  T33:   0.0250 T12:  -0.0032 
REMARK   3  T13:   0.0021 T23:  -0.0070 
REMARK   3L TENSOR  
REMARK   3  L11:   1.7358 L22:   0.5530 
REMARK   3  L33:   2.3849 L12:   0.2397 
REMARK   3  L13:  -0.5610 L23:  -0.8025 
REMARK   3S TENSOR  
REMARK   3  S11:   0.0490 S12:  -0.0959 S13:  -0.0548   
REMARK   3  S21:   0.0573 S22:  -0.0352 S23:  -0.0473   
REMARK   3  S31:  -0.0729 S32:   0.1153 S33:  -0.0139   
REMARK   3   



Thanks 

Regards
Shiva