Re: [ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

2021-01-23 Thread Bernhard Rupp 
I am not sure how the relevance of the subject obviates the need to read 

at least the abstract of your references.

 

I actually stumbled upon this because I am receiving more and more citation
alerts from 

papers in those odd journals in the 'pay to play' category which have little
connection 

to what they cite. 'Cite by Google'  is almost certainly on the rise..and
that it happens to

AI researchers I find particularly ironic.

 

Best, BR

 

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It's certainly a real problem they're writing about. Or at least, one that
some people say we should be worrying about.

 

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Take care ;-

https://www.wicys.org/

Seems genuine enough group & everything to me. The referees should have
spotted that one ;-0

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On 22 Jan 2021, 23:03, Bernhard Rupp < hofkristall...@gmail.com
<mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

Dear CCP4 Fellows, 

 

for the subscribers of my immensely popular show "The weekly nonsense" I
recommend

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06308.pdf

particularly reference [27] and its contextual environs.

 

Am I alone suspecting that this is some AI generated auto-paper-mill
product?

 

Cheers, BR

 

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Re: [ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

2021-01-22 Thread Frank Von Delft 
It's certainly a real problem they're writing about. Or at least, one that some 
people say we should be worrying about.

Sent from tiny silly touch screen<http://www.9folders.com/>

From: Jon Cooper <488a26d62010-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:40
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

Take care ;-

https://www.wicys.org/

Seems genuine enough group & everything to me. The referees should have spotted 
that one ;-0

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 Original Message 
On 22 Jan 2021, 23:03, Bernhard Rupp < hofkristall...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear CCP4 Fellows,

for the subscribers of my immensely popular show “The weekly nonsense” I 
recommend
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06308.pdf
particularly reference [27] and its contextual environs.

Am I alone suspecting that this is some AI generated auto-paper-mill product?

Cheers, BR

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Re: [ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

2021-01-22 Thread Jon Cooper 
Take care ;-

https://www.wicys.org/

Seems genuine enough group & everything to me. The referees should have spotted 
that one ;-0

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 Original Message 
On 22 Jan 2021, 23:03, Bernhard Rupp wrote:

> Dear CCP4 Fellows,
>
> for the subscribers of my immensely popular show “The weekly nonsense” I 
> recommend
>
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06308.pdf
>
> particularly reference [27] and its contextual environs.
>
> Am I alone suspecting that this is some AI generated auto-paper-mill product?
>
> Cheers, BR
>
> --
>
> Bernhard Rupp
>
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>
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>
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>
> +1 925 209 7429
>
> +43 676 571 0536
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Re: [ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

2021-01-22 Thread Paul Adams 

I think this stems from Brian being way too prolific. As I understand it, he 
used a correlation metric in a paper about T4 lysozyme in 1975, this is what 
they call the Matthews Correlation Coefficient in machine learning. I suspect 
our machine learning colleagues are less familiar with the Matthews Coefficient 
that we all know and love. So, confusing for everyone. Why they mistook the 
excellent work of Kantardjieff and Rupp in 2003 with a paper of Brian's from 
1975 is less clear. 


> On Jan 22, 2021, at 3:03 PM, Bernhard Rupp  wrote:
> 
> Dear CCP4 Fellows, 
>  
> for the subscribers of my immensely popular show “The weekly nonsense” I 
> recommend
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06308.pdf 
> particularly reference [27] and its contextual environs.
>  
> Am I alone suspecting that this is some AI generated auto-paper-mill product?
>  
> Cheers, BR
>  
> --
> Bernhard Rupp
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Re: [ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

2021-01-22 Thread Patrick Loll 
It seems that, for inexplicable reasons, they’ve confused Karl Pearson with 
Brian Matthews? 

> On 22 Jan 2021, at 6:03 PM, Bernhard Rupp  wrote:
> 
> Dear CCP4 Fellows, 
>  
> for the subscribers of my immensely popular show “The weekly nonsense” I 
> recommend
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06308.pdf 
> particularly reference [27] and its contextual environs.
>  
> Am I alone suspecting that this is some AI generated auto-paper-mill product?
>  
> Cheers, BR
>  
> --
> Bernhard Rupp
> The Amt
> http://www.hofkristallamt.org/ 
> b...@hofkristallamt.org 
> +1 925 209 7429
> +43 676 571 0536
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[ccp4bb] The weekly nonsense

2021-01-22 Thread Bernhard Rupp 
Dear CCP4 Fellows, 

 

for the subscribers of my immensely popular show "The weekly nonsense" I
recommend

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.06308.pdf

particularly reference [27] and its contextual environs.

 

Am I alone suspecting that this is some AI generated auto-paper-mill
product?

 

Cheers, BR

 

--

Bernhard Rupp

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  http://www.hofkristallamt.org/

  b...@hofkristallamt.org

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