Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-21 Thread Tom Murray-Rust
Hi Juergen,

Your scheme as printed has two J's - so January and July are indistinguishable! 
I would suggest the letters should instead be JFMAYULGSOND. 

Happy apocalypse!

Tom

On 21 Dec 2012, at 01:52, Bosch, Juergen jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote:

 May I introduce you to another fool proof way:
 12d12
 year-month-day
 This is in particular useful in a mixed lab with american and europeans 
 labeling Eppendorf tubes differently. The month has a defined letter, like 
 this you know that your buffer was made on June 9th and not September 6th 
 J, F,M,A,Y,J,U,G,S,O,N,D for the months, simply first letter, but if taken 
 move to the second letter etc.
 
 I'm sure you guys know about the two Bohemian mathematicians who figured out 
 that the Apocalypse as predicted by the Mayan calendar is due in 104 years 
 because the alignment of events was done incorrectly.
 
 Jürgen
 
 ..
 Johns Hopkins University
 Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
 Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
 Baltimore, MD 21205
 Office: +1-410-614-4742
 Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
 Fax:  +1-410-955-2926
 http://lupo.jhsph.edu
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:17 PM, David Schuller wrote:
 
 On 12/20/12 11:23, Edward A. Berry wrote:
 No, No- in scientific circles we go from MSB on the left to LSB on the 
 right:
 2012 12 20  (still a sort of palindrome).
 
 This is the best method if you are going to incorporate the date into a 
 file name. That way alphanumeric and chronological searches come up the 
 same.
 
 It's a pity it took us so long to figure this out, and the world is 
 ending tomorrow.
 
 http://www.makemeacocktail.com/cocktail/7209/mayan-apocalypse/
 Maya Apocalypse cocktail
 
 -- 
 ===
 All Things Serve the Beam
 ===
David J. Schuller
modern man in a post-modern world
MacCHESS, Cornell University
schul...@cornell.edu
 
 
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-21 Thread Ian Clifton
Tom Murray-Rust tom.murray.r...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi Juergen,

 Your scheme as printed has two J's - so January and July are
 indistinguishable! I would suggest the letters should instead be
 JFMAYULGSOND. 

 Happy apocalypse!

 Tom

 On 21 Dec 2012, at 01:52, Bosch, Juergen jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote:


 May I introduce you to another fool proof way:
 12d12
 year-month-day
 This is in particular useful in a mixed lab with american and
 europeans labeling Eppendorf tubes differently. The month has a
 defined letter, like this you know that your buffer was made on
 June 9th and not September 6th 
 J, F,M,A,Y,J,U,G,S,O,N,D for the months, simply first letter, but
 if taken move to the second letter etc.

Or there’s the Japanese system, using characters which unambiguously
identify which field is which. Happy 21日12月24年!

 I'm sure you guys know about the two Bohemian mathematicians who
 figured out that the Apocalypse as predicted by the Mayan
 calendar is due in 104 years because the alignment of events was
 done incorrectly.

Will there be egg on their faces in 104 year’s time!

Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and a sober 
instructive CCP4.

-- 
Ian ◎


Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-21 Thread David Schuller
On neither case does an alphanumeric sort coincide with a chronological 
sort. The obvious solution is to petition to have the months renamed 
alphabetically.


On 12/21/12 03:23, Tom Murray-Rust wrote:

Hi Juergen,

Your scheme as printed has two J's - so January and July are 
indistinguishable! I would suggest the letters should instead be 
JFMAYULGSOND.


On 21 Dec 2012, at 01:52, Bosch, Juergen jubo...@jhsph.edu 
mailto:jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote:



May I introduce you to another fool proof way:
12d12 ...
J, F,M,A,Y,J,U,G,S,O,N,D for the months, simply first letter, but if 
taken move to the second letter etc.




--
===
All Things Serve the Beam
===
   David J. Schuller
   modern man in a post-modern world
   MacCHESS, Cornell University
   schul...@cornell.edu



Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-21 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Hi David,

on a computer I agree 20121221 is the way to go (but even then you could still 
do ls -lta), but on Eppendorf tubes that is precious real estate for other 
important numbers or letters hence the 12d21 :-)

And thanks for catching my double J this was just a test if somebody would 
actually read what I wrote :-)
And the corrected values were indeed right, aka following the simple rule I 
mentioned.

Jürgen

On Dec 21, 2012, at 9:15 AM, David Schuller wrote:

On neither case does an alphanumeric sort coincide with a chronological sort. 
The obvious solution is to petition to have the months renamed alphabetically.

On 12/21/12 03:23, Tom Murray-Rust wrote:
Hi Juergen,

Your scheme as printed has two J's - so January and July are indistinguishable! 
I would suggest the letters should instead be JFMAYULGSOND.

On 21 Dec 2012, at 01:52, Bosch, Juergen 
jubo...@jhsph.edumailto:jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote:

May I introduce you to another fool proof way:
12d12 ...
J, F,M,A,Y,J,U,G,S,O,N,D for the months, simply first letter, but if taken move 
to the second letter etc.



--
===
All Things Serve the Beam
===
   David J. Schuller
   modern man in a post-modern world
   MacCHESS, Cornell University
   schul...@cornell.edumailto:schul...@cornell.edu


..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins University
Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Office: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
Fax:  +1-410-955-2926
http://lupo.jhsph.edu






[ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread Phil Evans
… is 20.12.2012

Happy Christmas everyone!

Phil

Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread James Foadi
Thank you, Phil!
The same to you!

J


 
Dr James Foadi PhD
Membrane Protein Laboratory
Diamond Light Source Ltd.
Diamond House
Harwell Science and Innovation Campus
Didcot
Oxfordshire
OX11 0DE
United Kingdom


office email: james.fo...@diamond.ac.uk
alternative email: j.fo...@imperial.ac.uk


personal web page: http://www.jfoadi.me.uk



 From: Phil Evans p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012, 11:50
Subject: [ccp4bb] Today ...
 
… is 20.12.2012

Happy Christmas everyone!

Phil

Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread Mark J van Raaij
and 8 days ago it was 121212, the mirror image of 212121, one of our favourite 
spacegroups.



On 20 Dec 2012, at 12:50, Phil Evans wrote:

 … is 20.12.2012
 
 Happy Christmas everyone!
 
 Phil


Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread case
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012, Phil Evans wrote:

 … is 20.12.2012

No, it's actually 12.20.2012, kind of a palindrome.

 
 Happy Christmas everyone!

And Merry Christmas to those on the left side of the pond!

...dac


Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Merry/Happy Christmas, Happy Your Favourite Festival/Celebration and Happy
New Year!
Raji


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, case c...@biomaps.rutgers.edu wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 20, 2012, Phil Evans wrote:

  … is 20.12.2012

 No, it's actually 12.20.2012, kind of a palindrome.

 
  Happy Christmas everyone!

 And Merry Christmas to those on the left side of the pond!

 ...dac




-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University


Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread Edward A. Berry

No, No- in scientific circles we go from MSB on the left to LSB on the right:
2012 12 20  (still a sort of palindrome).

as in
Release: 2012-12-19 Classification: Lipid Transport
Experiment: SOLUTION NMR Residue Count: 216

but right to left can be used if there is no ambiguity:
REVDAT   1   19-DEC-12 2LEM0

case wrote:

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012, Phil Evans wrote:


… is 20.12.2012


No, it's actually 12.20.2012, kind of a palindrome.



Happy Christmas everyone!


And Merry Christmas to those on the left side of the pond!

...dac



Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread David Schuller

On 12/20/12 11:23, Edward A. Berry wrote:
No, No- in scientific circles we go from MSB on the left to LSB on the 
right:

2012 12 20  (still a sort of palindrome).


This is the best method if you are going to incorporate the date into a 
file name. That way alphanumeric and chronological searches come up the 
same.


It's a pity it took us so long to figure this out, and the world is 
ending tomorrow.


http://www.makemeacocktail.com/cocktail/7209/mayan-apocalypse/
Maya Apocalypse cocktail

--
===
All Things Serve the Beam
===
   David J. Schuller
   modern man in a post-modern world
   MacCHESS, Cornell University
   schul...@cornell.edu


Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread Laurie Betts
OMG LOL Geeks!  Dog bless you all!!!

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Bosch, Juergen jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote:

 May I introduce you to another fool proof way:
 12d12
 year-month-day
 This is in particular useful in a mixed lab with american and europeans
 labeling Eppendorf tubes differently. The month has a defined letter, like
 this you know that your buffer was made on June 9th and not September 6th
 J, F,M,A,Y,J,U,G,S,O,N,D for the months, simply first letter, but if taken
 move to the second letter etc.

 I'm sure you guys know about the two Bohemian mathematicians who figured
 out that the Apocalypse as predicted by the Mayan calendar is due in 104
 years because the alignment of events was done incorrectly.

 Jürgen

 ..
 Johns Hopkins University
 Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
 Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
 Baltimore, MD 21205
 Office: +1-410-614-4742
 Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
 Fax:  +1-410-955-2926
 http://lupo.jhsph.edu


 On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:17 PM, David Schuller wrote:

 On 12/20/12 11:23, Edward A. Berry wrote:

 No, No- in scientific circles we go from MSB on the left to LSB on the

 right:

 2012 12 20  (still a sort of palindrome).


 This is the best method if you are going to incorporate the date into a
 file name. That way alphanumeric and chronological searches come up the
 same.

 It's a pity it took us so long to figure this out, and the world is
 ending tomorrow.

 http://www.makemeacocktail.com/cocktail/7209/mayan-apocalypse/
 Maya Apocalypse cocktail

 --
 ===
 All Things Serve the Beam
 ===
David J. Schuller
modern man in a post-modern world
MacCHESS, Cornell University
schul...@cornell.edu