Re: [ccp4bb] shelxl, refinement of occupany

2007-03-22 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Refining a common occupancy (using one free variable) for a loop that is 
in poor density is well worth trying. The loop may well have multiple 
conformations and this may make it easier to find a second conformation in 
the difference map. I also recommend refining the occupancies of any 
selenium atoms present (e.g. by changing '11' to '1'), this allows for 
partial incorporation and radiation damage.

Hydrogen atoms should be included in all final refinements, they cost 
no extra parameters and can reduce the free R by 0.5 to 1.0%; the 
antibumping restraints involving them (BUMP) are also useful. However I 
do not include OH hydrogens because the stupid program sometimes puts 
them in the wrong place (e.g. two on the same H-bond) and the combination 
of the riding model and antibumping restraints can tear the structure 
apart. For amide sidechains and histidines I would recommend checking the 
conformations with the molprobity server before adding the hydrogens in 
SHELXL. It is however less work to model all alternative conformations 
before adding hydrogens with HFIX, the program will then set up the 
disorder correctly for the hydrogens too. In such cases the disorder 
should be modeled one atom further back than you can see in the maps; if 
CG has two positions then there should be two pairs of alternative H-atoms 
on CB, which the program will set automatically if you have included PART 
1 and PART 2 alternatives for CB. This is appreciably more work to set up 
later by hand if you add the hydrogens before modeling the disorder!

It is worth trying to make the waters anisotropic (with an ISOR restraint) 
to see if this reduces R free significantly. If the .lst file gives NPD 
warnings the restraints on the anisotropic atoms are too soft.

And I am surprised that after all your emails on the subject you still 
can't spell 'SHELX'!

George


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University of Goettingen,
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, U Sam wrote:

 I am looking for some advice.
 
 (1) In shelex what should I mention to refine occupancy.
 I have two molecule in asym unit.
 In A molecule residues 89-92 is present, but in B these residues are missing.
 So I believe in B these residues should not be with zero occupancy, although I
 donot find any prominent density (Fo-Fc). Occupancy could be anywhere between
 0.0 to 1.0. How can I refine this parameter. Or, I should neglect this missing
 part of residues in B indicating a occupancy of 0.0 or keep a gap of these
 residues with no information including coordinates.
 
 Right now R1=14% and R1(free) =18%, without making water anisotropic.
 
 (2) I am using 1.4 A data. Should I refine water anisotropically ? If answer
 is yes, when.
 
 (3) Should I add hydrogen at this resolution. If yes, when should I do.
 
 Thanks
 Sam
 
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[ccp4bb] shelxl, refinement of occupany

2007-03-21 Thread U Sam

I am looking for some advice.

(1) In shelex what should I mention to refine occupancy.
I have two molecule in asym unit.
In A molecule residues 89-92 is present, but in B these residues are 
missing.
So I believe in B these residues should not be with zero occupancy, although 
I donot find any prominent density (Fo-Fc). Occupancy could be anywhere 
between 0.0 to 1.0. How can I refine this parameter. Or, I should neglect 
this missing part of residues in B indicating a occupancy of 0.0 or keep a 
gap of these residues with no information including coordinates.


Right now R1=14% and R1(free) =18%, without making water anisotropic.

(2) I am using 1.4 A data. Should I refine water anisotropically ? If answer 
is yes, when.


(3) Should I add hydrogen at this resolution. If yes, when should I do.

Thanks
Sam

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