Re: [ccp4bb] OT - Software articles / databases

2009-01-09 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday 09 January 2009 10:11:55 Lucas Bleicher wrote:
> I've been compiling a reference database and I've just noticed that it's 
> quite difficult to automatically retrieve references for most articles on 
> crystallographic software. Has anyone noticed that? 
> It seems that, for some reasons, articles on the "Computer programs" 
> section on Journal of Applied Crystallography (where the "official reference" 
> for most of the software we use gets published) is not indexed on databases 
> such as ISI Web Of Science, Pubmed, etc, but all other sections from that 
> magazine are.  

I have not noticed that, although I have noticed a related problem.
Citations made in supplementary material often do not get collected into
the citation indices, and since some high profile journals are pushing
methodological details into supplementary material, this means the
citations are "lost" to electronic searches.

If it helps, I have a collection of crystallographic references in bibtex
format collected from people in the lab and from an earlier query here
on ccp4bb.  It's certainly not complete, nor fully up to date, but
it may contain the citations you are looking for. 

http://www.bmsc.washington.edu/CrystaLinks/bibtex/bibtex.html

-- 
Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center
University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742


Re: [ccp4bb] OT - Software articles / databases

2009-01-09 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I am equally upset by the fact that citations in the supplementary 
material tend not to get into the citation indices, though it is
not quite so bad for SHELX because it tends to be cited in less 
prestigeous journals that make less use of supplementary material!

George

Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
Dept. Structural Chemistry,
University of Goettingen,
Tammannstr. 4,
D37077 Goettingen, Germany
Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
Fax. +49-551-39-22582


On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Ethan Merritt wrote:

> On Friday 09 January 2009 10:11:55 Lucas Bleicher wrote:
> > I've been compiling a reference database and I've just noticed that it's 
> > quite difficult to automatically retrieve references for most articles on 
> > crystallographic software. Has anyone noticed that? 
> > It seems that, for some reasons, articles on the "Computer programs" 
> > section on Journal of Applied Crystallography (where the "official 
> > reference" 
> > for most of the software we use gets published) is not indexed on databases 
> > such as ISI Web Of Science, Pubmed, etc, but all other sections from that 
> > magazine are.  
> 
> I have not noticed that, although I have noticed a related problem.
> Citations made in supplementary material often do not get collected into
> the citation indices, and since some high profile journals are pushing
> methodological details into supplementary material, this means the
> citations are "lost" to electronic searches.
> 
> If it helps, I have a collection of crystallographic references in bibtex
> format collected from people in the lab and from an earlier query here
> on ccp4bb.  It's certainly not complete, nor fully up to date, but
> it may contain the citations you are looking for. 
> 
>   http://www.bmsc.washington.edu/CrystaLinks/bibtex/bibtex.html
> 
> -- 
> Ethan A Merritt
> Biomolecular Structure Center
> University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742
>