Re: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

2018-08-01 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Herman,

the "water scrutinizer" option of XPAND does this -. 
http://www.msg.ucsf.edu/local/programs/ono/manuals/xpand_man.html#S7

best wishes,

Kay

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:39:01 +, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote:

>Dear BB,
>
>I know it has been discussed some time ago, but a google search did not come 
>up with anything useful.
>
>I need a program which analyzes the bound waters and suggests whether a 
>particular water might be a chloride, calcium, sulfate, sodium or something 
>else. Preferably a program that can be run off-line (not a web server), but if 
>there is no choice, we will use a webserver as well.
>
>Thank you for your suggestions!
>Herman
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Re: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

2018-07-31 Thread Pavel Afonine
There is an option in phenix.refine to do this, described here:

Automated identification of elemental ions in macromolecular crystal
structures. Echols N, Morshed N, Afonine PV, McCoy AJ, Miller MD, Read RJ,
Richardson JS, Terwilliger TC, Adams PD Acta Cryst. D70, 1104-1114 (2014).

Pavel

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 5:39 AM,  wrote:

> Dear BB,
>
>
>
> I know it has been discussed some time ago, but a google search did not
> come up with anything useful.
>
>
>
> I need a program which analyzes the bound waters and suggests whether a
> particular water might be a chloride, calcium, sulfate, sodium or something
> else. Preferably a program that can be run off-line (not a web server), but
> if there is no choice, we will use a webserver as well.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your suggestions!
>
> Herman
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

2018-07-31 Thread Arnaud GOEPFERT
Dear Herman,
You can try this out, a web server though: https://csgid.org/metal_sites

Cheers,
Arnaud

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Date: Tuesday 31 July 2018 at 14:39
To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" 
Subject: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

Dear BB,

I know it has been discussed some time ago, but a google search did not come up 
with anything useful.

I need a program which analyzes the bound waters and suggests whether a 
particular water might be a chloride, calcium, sulfate, sodium or something 
else. Preferably a program that can be run off-line (not a web server), but if 
there is no choice, we will use a webserver as well.

Thank you for your suggestions!
Herman






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Re: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

2018-07-31 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Herman,

Whatcheck does his as well for the metals. Chloride is not highly coordinated, 
likes nitrogens, and has long coordination lengths (over 3A). Sulfate gives 
huge blobs and sticks out in difference density or ridiculously low B-factors.

HTH,
Robbie

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From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Christian Roth 

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 2:47:25 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

Hi Herman,
out of the top of my head I think there is an option in Coot to check if the 
water is highly coordinated and might be an ion and I think there was also a 
function in Phenix to check for ions.

Cheers

Christian


mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com>> schrieb am 
Di., 31. Juli 2018, 14:39:
Dear BB,

I know it has been discussed some time ago, but a google search did not come up 
with anything useful.

I need a program which analyzes the bound waters and suggests whether a 
particular water might be a chloride, calcium, sulfate, sodium or something 
else. Preferably a program that can be run off-line (not a web server), but if 
there is no choice, we will use a webserver as well.

Thank you for your suggestions!
Herman






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Re: [ccp4bb] identifying bound ions

2018-07-31 Thread Christian Roth
Hi Herman,
out of the top of my head I think there is an option in Coot to check if
the water is highly coordinated and might be an ion and I think there was
also a function in Phenix to check for ions.

Cheers

Christian


 schrieb am Di., 31. Juli 2018, 14:39:

> Dear BB,
>
>
>
> I know it has been discussed some time ago, but a google search did not
> come up with anything useful.
>
>
>
> I need a program which analyzes the bound waters and suggests whether a
> particular water might be a chloride, calcium, sulfate, sodium or something
> else. Preferably a program that can be run off-line (not a web server), but
> if there is no choice, we will use a webserver as well.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your suggestions!
>
> Herman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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