RE: Character ROMs for HP 2631G printer / 264x terminals

[CuriousMarc]

And I was already salivating for the 600 lines/minute HP2608 that was part of 
the HP 3000 system since I have the interface card for it. Looks like it went 
to a lucky someone else...
Marc 

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:26 AM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Character ROMs for HP 2631G printer / 264x terminals


Marc wrote...
-
I just resurrected a nice HP 2631G dot matrix line printer: 
Like here: http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=316
-
Very nice printer, I'm jealous. However, I do have an HP 2610A that will get 
restored/running at some point. That thing shakes the house and walks across 
the floor (used one in high school).

-
It has 3 empty slots for extra character ROMs, so I am itching to install 
some... Anyone has ever made a dump of these character ROMs? 
-
Would be surprised - given HP/DSD at the time - if there wasn't an APL 
character set :)

J

RE: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)

[CuriousMarc]

Looks like someone beat me to it. Congrats to whomever it is, I hope it's one 
of us! 
Marc 

- Original Message - 
From: "CuriousMarc" 
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" 

Sent: Tue 05 Jan 2016 03:34 PM
Subject: RE: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)


I'm on it...
Marc

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Glen Slick
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 8:38 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Free HP 3000 Equipment for removal (Denver Craigslist)

Someone go get this.

posted: 2016-01-04 12:20pm

http://denver.craigslist.org/sys/5387506164.html

I have the following HP 3000 computer equipment in my basement yours FREE 
for removal

QTY Description
- --
2 HP 3000 series 30 Computers
4 HP 7925 disk drives
1 HP 2608A line printer
1 HP 7970E tape drive
2 HP 3000 Console Terminals
3 HP 2645A terminals
2 HP 2631A terminal printers

The picture shown is of 3 disk drives and the Tape drive when new (1980). 
This equipment has been mostly idle for 20+ years. The first 4 line items of 
equipment above are relatively large and would require at least 2 men to 
remove each item from my basement.

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Raymond Wiker]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Murray McCullough <
c.murray.mccullo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a
> PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a
> refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build a
> computer? We did in the earliest days of the PC- the 8-bit era. Heck,
> that's all one could do! It was limited and is to this day. AMD vs
> INTEL control what we can do. Has anything really changed?
>

I'd say that we still have the freedom to build a computer; in fact, it's
probably easier than it ever was. True, it may not be feasible to build
a high-performance computer based on current generation x86 chips,
but there are so many alternatives: some of the 8-bit favourites are still
being made (6502, z80); then there's the AVR, PIC, TI 430, the Propeller,
various ARM chips.

There are free or low-cost CAD packages, and having small series of PCBs
made is almost ridiculously cheap. You can get logic analyzers for $150 or
so, and if you want to experiment with FPGAs, you can get useful
development systems for well below $100.

Heathkit (Re: Building a PC - then & now)

[Jay Jaeger]

On 1/13/2016 7:15 PM, Paul Koning wrote:

> Must be.  New kits, old manuals, upgrades for old kits -- at least a brief 
> glance gave me a  pretty positive impression.
> 
>   paul
> 

Meh.  It has taken them, like, 5 years to come out with this seriously
overpriced radio, and it isn't even superhet for crying out loud.  The
rest are just pieces parts.

They created a lot of hype, but have done almost nothing real.

Maybe someday they will be real, but not yet.

JRJ

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[COURYHOUSE]

I think the Pilot brand  TV at the museum  may be continuous  and yes has  
chan 1
 
Ed!
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2016 5:54:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
ccl...@sydex.com writes:

On  01/13/2016 03:27 PM, William Donzelli wrote:

> In the old days, the  shitty kit TVs would have continuous tuners.

In prewar days, it seems  that there more than a couple of offerings. 
Didn't Meissner(they of the  "Signal Shifter" VFO) offer a kit TV in the 
30s/early 40s?  I do  remember the continuous tuners, though--two 
bands--and one could even tune  Channel 1.

A large number of Heathkit color TVs were built by vets  using funding 
from the GI bill.  Those were Heath's good  days...

--Chuck

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Paul Koning]

Must be.  New kits, old manuals, upgrades for old kits -- at least a brief 
glance gave me a  pretty positive impression.

paul

> On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:07 PM, William Donzelli  wrote:
> 
> Is that the guy that bought the Heath IP?
> 
> --
> Will
> 
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Paul Koning  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:01 PM, William Donzelli  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Er...Heathkit is long gone.
>> 
>> It was for a while.  But it's back.  Check out heathkit.com.
>> 
>>paul
>> 
>> 

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[William Donzelli]

Is that the guy that bought the Heath IP?

--
Will

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Paul Koning  wrote:
>
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:01 PM, William Donzelli  wrote:
>>
>> Er...Heathkit is long gone.
>
> It was for a while.  But it's back.  Check out heathkit.com.
>
> paul
>
>

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Ian S. King]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Chuck Guzis  wrote:

> On 01/13/2016 03:27 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
>
> In the old days, the shitty kit TVs would have continuous tuners.
>>
>
> In prewar days, it seems that there more than a couple of offerings.
> Didn't Meissner(they of the "Signal Shifter" VFO) offer a kit TV in the
> 30s/early 40s?  I do remember the continuous tuners, though--two bands--and
> one could even tune Channel 1.
>
> A large number of Heathkit color TVs were built by vets using funding from
> the GI bill.  Those were Heath's good days...
>
> --Chuck
>
>
ISTR ads in magazines like Popular Electronics offering courses on TV
repair that employed the Heathkit as the learning platform.


-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Paul Koning]

> On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:01 PM, William Donzelli  wrote:
> 
> Er...Heathkit is long gone.

It was for a while.  But it's back.  Check out heathkit.com.

paul

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Chuck Guzis]

On 01/13/2016 03:27 PM, William Donzelli wrote:


In the old days, the shitty kit TVs would have continuous tuners.


In prewar days, it seems that there more than a couple of offerings. 
Didn't Meissner(they of the "Signal Shifter" VFO) offer a kit TV in the 
30s/early 40s?  I do remember the continuous tuners, though--two 
bands--and one could even tune Channel 1.


A large number of Heathkit color TVs were built by vets using funding 
from the GI bill.  Those were Heath's good days...


--Chuck

Re: Amazing game???

[Eric Christopherson]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016, Mike Boyle wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:45 AM, drlegendre .  wrote:
> 
> > FWIW, I can't see the pic.. just a page full of busy ads,
> >
> > But I do remember the maze generator program.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Mike  wrote:
> >
> > > I have went over and over the code here
> > >
> > > http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=3
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > but this is what I get???
> > >
> > >
> > > http://i64.tinypic.com/nci35y.jpg
> > >
> > > I know all the code is right is there a misprint in the book?
> > >
> > > I am pulling my hair out...LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> ​I think there has to be a typo in the book there is no other possibility!​

One potential problem is that it looks like it's for 80 columns and
you're running it on a system with only 40.

-- 
Eric Christopherson

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[ben]

On 1/13/2016 4:27 PM, William Donzelli wrote:

I don’t know about how easy it would be to build a TV (from scratch…something
Heathkit didn’t do BTW…tuner was pre-assembled and “tuned”) given that the
over-the-air signal is now a digital signal vs analog (ie I can’t recall if 
there’s any
encryption involved that would require decryption keys).


In the old days, the shitty kit TVs would have continuous tuners.


But then again you only had 1 TV channel at most in the AREA.

*** THE TWILIGHT ZONE ***

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[William Donzelli]

> I don’t know about how easy it would be to build a TV (from scratch…something
> Heathkit didn’t do BTW…tuner was pre-assembled and “tuned”) given that the
> over-the-air signal is now a digital signal vs analog (ie I can’t recall if 
> there’s any
> encryption involved that would require decryption keys).

In the old days, the shitty kit TVs would have continuous tuners.

--
Will

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Jon Elson]

On 01/13/2016 04:29 PM, Murray McCullough wrote:

I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a
PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a
refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build a
computer? We did in the earliest days of the PC- the 8-bit era. Heck,
that's all one could do! It was limited and is to this day. AMD vs
INTEL control what we can do. Has anything really changed?


Hmmm, well.  I can build a phone (not a cell phone, of 
course, but a land-line phone is relatively simple.)
Some people have definitely built cars, and gotten them 
licensed.  I have built things that are essentially 
refrigerators.  We have one of those ice cream makers that 
takes about a ton of ice cubes to make one quart of ice 
cream.  I hacked up some refrigeration components to chill 
the brine, which gets re-used.  Works great!


My insane friend Walter turned his Tek RM35 scope into a TV, 
and watched TV on a 5" green screen while he was in 
college.  Hmm, Walter also cloned a Data General Nova with 
piles of TTL chips. Probably very little by AMD or Intel in 
there, either.


Jon

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Ian S. King]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Guy Sotomayor  wrote:

>
> > On Jan 13, 2016, at 3:01 PM, William Donzelli 
> wrote:
> >
> > Er...Heathkit is long gone.
> >
> > However, there are at least a few car guys that might have a thing or
> > two to say about the original post.
> >
>
> I agree.  Kit cars are still around.  ;-)
>
> I don’t know about how easy it would be to build a TV (from
> scratch…something
> Heathkit didn’t do BTW…tuner was pre-assembled and “tuned”) given that the
> over-the-air signal is now a digital signal vs analog (ie I can’t recall
> if there’s any
> encryption involved that would require decryption keys).
>
> TTFN - Guy
>
>
>
Certainly, but the OP seemed to be referring to the historical context of
the construction of so-called "personal computers", especially 8-bit
machines.  And just to stretch the point a bit, amateur radio operators
were building and using slow-scan TV systems in the 1970s.

-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Free (pay shipping) Hp DDS-4 40gb tapes (only have two)

[John Robertson]

I have two sealed C5718A tapes that are free to the first person to ask 
for them and pay shipping. I hate to throw out something that may still 
be useful.


Can mail them for $5 (I think) to the USA, or local pickup.

John :-#)#

--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
 www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Guy Sotomayor]

> On Jan 13, 2016, at 3:01 PM, William Donzelli  wrote:
> 
> Er...Heathkit is long gone.
> 
> However, there are at least a few car guys that might have a thing or
> two to say about the original post.
> 

I agree.  Kit cars are still around.  ;-)

I don’t know about how easy it would be to build a TV (from scratch…something
Heathkit didn’t do BTW…tuner was pre-assembled and “tuned”) given that the
over-the-air signal is now a digital signal vs analog (ie I can’t recall if 
there’s any
encryption involved that would require decryption keys).

TTFN - Guy

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[William Donzelli]

Er...Heathkit is long gone.

However, there are at least a few car guys that might have a thing or
two to say about the original post.

--
Will

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Ian S. King  wrote:
> Can't build a TV?  Heathkit.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:40 PM, ben  wrote:
>
>> On 1/13/2016 3:29 PM, Murray McCullough wrote:
>>
>>> I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a
>>> PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a
>>> refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build a
>>> computer? We did in the earliest days of the PC- the 8-bit era. Heck,
>>> that's all one could do! It was limited and is to this day. AMD vs
>>> INTEL control what we can do. Has anything really changed?
>>>
>>> Happy computing.
>>>
>>> Murray  :)
>>>
>>>
>>> I still think you can build a Car, but VW parts are not as common
>> as it was once.
>> Ben.
>> PS: BUILD A PDP-K, a nice 18 bit that never was.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
> The Information School 
> Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
> Narrative Through a Design Lens
>
> Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
> Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 
>
> University of Washington
>
> There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[Ian S. King]

Can't build a TV?  Heathkit.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:40 PM, ben  wrote:

> On 1/13/2016 3:29 PM, Murray McCullough wrote:
>
>> I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a
>> PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a
>> refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build a
>> computer? We did in the earliest days of the PC- the 8-bit era. Heck,
>> that's all one could do! It was limited and is to this day. AMD vs
>> INTEL control what we can do. Has anything really changed?
>>
>> Happy computing.
>>
>> Murray  :)
>>
>>
>> I still think you can build a Car, but VW parts are not as common
> as it was once.
> Ben.
> PS: BUILD A PDP-K, a nice 18 bit that never was.
>
>


-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Building a PC - then & now

[ben]

On 1/13/2016 3:29 PM, Murray McCullough wrote:

I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a
PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a
refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build a
computer? We did in the earliest days of the PC- the 8-bit era. Heck,
that's all one could do! It was limited and is to this day. AMD vs
INTEL control what we can do. Has anything really changed?

Happy computing.

Murray  :)



I still think you can build a Car, but VW parts are not as common
as it was once.
Ben.
PS: BUILD A PDP-K, a nice 18 bit that never was.

Building a PC - then & now

[Murray McCullough]

I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a
PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a
refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build a
computer? We did in the earliest days of the PC- the 8-bit era. Heck,
that's all one could do! It was limited and is to this day. AMD vs
INTEL control what we can do. Has anything really changed?

Happy computing.

Murray  :)

Re: Amazing game???

[Mike Boyle]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:45 AM, drlegendre .  wrote:

> FWIW, I can't see the pic.. just a page full of busy ads,
>
> But I do remember the maze generator program.
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Mike  wrote:
>
> > I have went over and over the code here
> >
> > http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=3
> >
> >
> >
> > but this is what I get???
> >
> >
> > http://i64.tinypic.com/nci35y.jpg
> >
> > I know all the code is right is there a misprint in the book?
> >
> > I am pulling my hair out...LOL
> >
> >
> >
>

​I think there has to be a typo in the book there is no other possibility!​


-- 
*Mike's ​Honda ATC 3wheeler​ Shop​ for LIFE!!!*

*   Have a blessed day!*

Re: Sun SPARC at iBid State of Illinois auction site again

[Joseph Zatarski]

> Hey everyone,
> I was browsing and I noticed that there's another Sun SPARC posted up:
>
> https://ibid.illinois.gov/item.php?id=170591
>
> last time, I think there was one that went for a mere $5. Now of course,
you gotta move it or pay to have it moved, but if you're interested, act
now and start getting an account on the site. When I got my account, I had
to wait a few days before they actually got my account set up.
>
> Anyway, given that this is the second time I've seen Sun equipment on the
site at the same location, I would venture to guess someone over here in IL
government is phasing out their sun stuff, so maybe it's worth checking in
the future as well for more stuff if anyone's interested.
>
> Regards,
> Joe

I guess I should correct myself, the $5 was for something else I was
thinking of. Last time a Sun was up, it went for $113.50.

Re: Amazing game???

[azd30]

[ tulsamike3434 (at) gmail.com  wrote...]
>
> I have went over and over the code here
> 
> http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=3
> 
> but this is what I get??? 
> 
> http://i64.tinypic.com/nci35y.jpg
> 
> I know all the code is right is there a misprint in the book?
> 
> I am pulling my hair out...LOL
> 

Stop pulling your hair out and start doing some debugging... 8-)

The error message is pretty self explanatory - either r+1 or s is outside the 
range for the DIM's in 110.

1. Start sticking in PRINT statements

115 print "***DBG: array dim", h, v

675 print "***DBG: before if", r+1, s

to figure out what bad values (if any) you are getting. Then if bad values, 
start going back through the code - how do you get to line 670  (from 530 and 
540 and, and)

try it to understand the program using the paper and pencil method to debug it 
(and a simple dimension of 1x2 2x3 etc, so you don't have to go through too 
many times)

What is starting at 530? Looks like subroutines, since the code at 510, 520 is 
pretty much telling you that you need to go to 790+

Is your version of basic different than the Microsoft 8080 Basic for the Altair 
that the book was written for? How? 

cheers
--
alex

Sun SPARC at iBid State of Illinois auction site again

[Joseph Zatarski]

Hey everyone,
I was browsing and I noticed that there's another Sun SPARC posted up:

https://ibid.illinois.gov/item.php?id=170591

last time, I think there was one that went for a mere $5. Now of course,
you gotta move it or pay to have it moved, but if you're interested, act
now and start getting an account on the site. When I got my account, I had
to wait a few days before they actually got my account set up.

Anyway, given that this is the second time I've seen Sun equipment on the
site at the same location, I would venture to guess someone over here in IL
government is phasing out their sun stuff, so maybe it's worth checking in
the future as well for more stuff if anyone's interested.

Regards,
Joe

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jay Jaeger]

Thanks for the pointer.  I have an INDY with no software (well, at least
no convenient software - I have IRIX 5.22 as 3 tar.gz files.

I guess I will need to drag it out and if it still runs, get it a
simulated SCSI disk (I don't have any disks in mine).

JRJ

On 1/12/2016 2:10 PM, geneb wrote:
> 
> 
> https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?&sort=-publicdate&and[]=SGI
> 
> g.
> 
> 

Re: Amazing game???

[drlegendre .]

FWIW, I can't see the pic.. just a page full of busy ads,

But I do remember the maze generator program.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Mike  wrote:

> I have went over and over the code here
>
> http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=3
>
>
>
> but this is what I get???
>
>
> http://i64.tinypic.com/nci35y.jpg
>
> I know all the code is right is there a misprint in the book?
>
> I am pulling my hair out...LOL
>
>
>

Re: I COULD JUST KICK MYSELF IN THE BUTT!!! commodore pet . . .

[William Donzelli]

> I don't think they had ANY IDEA how many people were going to hit there
> servers back then lol!  ! !

No, there was a good idea of the exploding usage figures, but the
estimate fell short for both the server usage and the modem usage. US
Robotics had trouble producing enough Total Control modems.

--
Will

RE: Character ROMs for HP 2631G printer / 264x terminals

[Jay West]

Marc wrote...
-
I just resurrected a nice HP 2631G dot matrix line printer: 
Like here: http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=316
-
Very nice printer, I'm jealous. However, I do have an HP 2610A that will get 
restored/running at some point. That thing shakes the house and walks across 
the floor (used one in high school).

-
It has 3 empty slots for extra character ROMs, so I am itching to install 
some... Anyone has ever made a dump of these character ROMs? 
-
Would be surprised - given HP/DSD at the time - if there wasn't an APL 
character set :)

J

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ben Sinclair]

Amazing, thank you! I just finished putting together my dream system
from 1997 or so, an O2 with a 1600SW. I'm running the latest IRIX on
there, but have been looking of the development overlays.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, geneb  wrote:
>
>
> https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?&sort=-publicdate&and[]=SGI
>
> g.
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!



-- 
Ben Sinclair
b...@bensinclair.com

Re: TDL 8K Z80 Basic..

[Holm Tiffe]

Holm Tiffe wrote:

> 
> Currently I'm fiddeling around with the old 8 Kbyte Z80 Basic Interpreter
> from TDL, found an Paper Tape Image here:
> http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/img54306/p/tdlsoft.zip
> on Dave Dunfields pages.
> 
> I've used the 12K Version from TDL many years before on my home computer
> and now we have a project on robotrontechnik.de with an SBC and I've ported
> the P112 Tiny Basic already to this SBC, now I want to try the 8K TDL
> Version.
> 
> ...
> 
> Has someone still a computer with that 8K TDL Basic in use?
> 
> In the moment I'm writing a loader that can "autopatch" the relocation
> Bytes in the TDL HEX file format from the Paper Tapes. Someone used that
> before?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Holm
> 
Sems that I've properly managed to decode the TDL-HEX File and loaded 
the File to execute at 0x200:

mem 0fa00h
ok
starting memmove
jump to monitor entry 

Zapple V1.1
>g200


HIGHEST MEMORY? 

52926 BYTES FREE

Welcome to BASIC, Ver. 1.3


>READY

...running fine so far.

Regards,

Holm
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Re: For you SGI fans...

[Steven Hirsch]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:


Solution- netboot.

The CDs [there are a zillion point release layer things] are in EFS 
format and can't be mounted on OS X or Windows. At some point I mounted 
them all on Linux and wrote a script that copied the /dist folders to a 
folder structure on an NFS share I use to do a net install.


The net-based install was rather fussy about the shell on the installation 
server.  To work around it, I wrote a Linux pre-load shim that caught all 
invocations and directed them to the compatible shell binary.


If this is of interest to anyone, I can probably unearth the code from a 
backup tape (my SGIs - and the installation server - have been gone for 
years).



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Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jonathan Katz]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Ian Finder  wrote:
> Yeah, the versions > 6.5.22 can be nice for a variety of reasons if you've
> got the later hardware. [I think the last one even had an
> almost-totally-working default DHCP config out-of-box. ;) ]
>
> I run it on systems where I can.

The only thing I really want for Christmas is a modern JDK/JRE running on Irix.

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian Finder]

Yeah, the versions > 6.5.22 can be nice for a variety of reasons if you've
got the later hardware. [I think the last one even had an
almost-totally-working default DHCP config out-of-box. ;) ]

I run it on systems where I can.

6.5.22 is nice because it doesn't have dependencies on some of the harder
to find later developer CDs, and it is the last version I expect a lot of
the SGI hardware changing hands these days, but it is sufficient for the
late SGIs too.
(later versions drop Indy, Indigo2, Onyx, etc.)

*anyway- If you plan on ever installing more than a couple SGIs...*
Doing a* full and up-to-date *install from scratch using the CDs is a *pain*
.

Solution- netboot.

The CDs [there are a zillion point release layer things] are in EFS format
and can't be mounted on OS X or Windows. At some point I mounted them all
on Linux and wrote a script that copied the /dist folders to a folder
structure on an NFS share I use to do a net install.

It has various mid-release CD versions for things like the Developer
Libraries and NFS discs, and can do a pretty full install of both 6.5.30
and 6.5.22 for older (I2, Indy, etc.) systems.

There's also some demos / application CDs, and some of the more recent
SGI-built [freeware- mozilla, etc] freeware CDs.

*These are all components of IRIX itself as supplied with systems over the
years*, but the layered CD-based software distribution model employed by
SGI is maddening.

I don't have the original images- I never plan to touch an IRIX CD again.

What's SGI-rackable's take? pretty sure support for these ended LONG ago-
last release is 10 years old and they will not sell you IRIX, nor current
or extended support.

I could look into tarring this up and getting it on Archive.org.

- Ian

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