Re: Preferred way of substituting TFT for CRT Monitor?

2016-01-21 Thread r.stricklin
The 98549A board is 1024x768, 6 planes (4 color, 2 overlay, at least under HP 
VUE -- perhaps there's a way it can make use of all 6 planes for color, but I 
don't know how). Otherwise, that matches what I've observed here.

ok
bear.

On Jan 21, 2016, at 8:51 AM,   
wrote:

> Yesterday I checked the 9000/217 98204B combo with my oscilloscope and  I can 
> confirm the 25kHz horz. frequency (1V down to 0.3V pulses every 40 us).
> I cannot measure the pixel clock as my oscilloscope was too cheap (I had to 
> compromise) and thus cannot sample at higher MHz rates. I only see that it 
> goes from 1V to approx. 2.2V.
> Just for my understanding: if I do the math: 512 pixels x 400 rows = 204'800 
> pixels at 50 Hz I end up with 10.2 MHz and at 60 Hz = 12.3 MHz.
> There is more "room" required for the retrace time, probably another 10% or 
> so?
> So I understand that the monitor must be capable of ~25 kHz and 10...14 MHz 
> and that I better try before buy.
> 
> It is difficult to find specs for these HP 9000 video boards.
> In case it is useful for someone ... my list below is still missing DIO-bus 
> type (1 or 2) and signal frequencies.
> 
> 98204B Video Board   medium resolution (512x390)monochrome 
> for 35721 monitor, DIO-1
> 98542A Monochrome Video Boardmedium resolution (512x400)monochrome
> 98543A Color Video Board medium resolution (512x400)16 colors
> 98544B Monochrome Video Boardhigh resolution (1024x768) monochrome
> 98545A Color Video Board high resolution (1024x768) 16 colors
> 98546A/B Monochrome Video Board  medium resolution (512x390)monochrome 
> alpha/graphics, for 216/217 display compatibility
>   (a pair of cards, compatible with 2136 and 217 displays (512x390, 
> 25x80))
> 98547A Color Video Board high resolution (1024x768) 64 colors
> 98548A Monochrome Video Boardhigh resolution (1280x1024)high 
> performance
> 98549A Color Video Board high resolution (1280x1024)high 
> performance
> 98550A Color Video Board high resolution (1280x1024)high 
> performance
> 98700A Graphics Display Station  high resolution (1024x768) 256 colors
> 98710A Graphics Accelerator  optional for 98700A
> 98720A High Performance Boardhigh resolution (1280x1024) nur HP-UX, 
> requires 98724AA interface and 98784A monitor
> 98730A High Performance Boardhigh resolution (1280x1024) nur HP-UX
> 98722 memory upgrade optional for 98720A
> 
> Martin
> 
> 


-- 
until further notice



Re: Restoring Old Paper Tape

2016-01-21 Thread John Robertson

On 01/21/2016 6:46 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Jason T  wrote:


On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Charles Anthony
 wrote:

For part 2, personally, I would take movies of the paper tape moving and
doing image analysis to recover that data; this occurs to me because I've
done a fair bit of image recognition software, so this solution may not

be

feasible for all. If you sent me a sample movie, I would make a stab at
writing some data recovery software.

I have heard of those approach and was thinking it may be a solution
in cases where the tape is too fragile (and that's pretty likely
here.)  It would be well beyond my abilities but might make an
interesting project for you or anyone else with the skills.



The general approach would be to have the tape backlit (on a piece of
glass, with a light source and and diffuser underneath ) and  guide block
that the tape slides against so the holes move left-to-right but not up and
down. The camera is set up so that the tape fills the image as much as is
feasible. You start the camera, and slide the tape. Constant speed is not
important, but avoid backing up.

Grab a frame from the movie. Figure out the approximate pixel coordinates
of the data and pin feed holes in the axis moving across the tape (eg, the
1 bit is about 24 pixels from the top of the image, the 2 bit is about 47
pixels from the top, etc).

Process the movie a frame at a time. Grab a column of pixels from the
center of the image from top to bottom. Look at the pixels around where the
pin feed is, decide if they are light or dark. If light, the a character is
centered in the column. If not, move to the next frame. look at the pixels
around where each data bit is, and decide if the are light (punched) or
dark (unpunched). Write out that data. Skip frames until the pin feed
pixels go dark, and then skip frames until it goes light again; that will
be the next character. Repeat.

The pin feed holes greatly simplify the process. This process is quite
analogous to reading multi-track magnetic media with a timing track.

Test on a known tape. Debug. Run over damaged tapes; data recovered.

-- Charles

Would it not be simpler to make an optical reader to handle  this job? 
You need a light source and the correct number of opto transistors to 
read the light from each hole. There is an index built into the tape so 
that is easy to set.


Something like this:

http://hackaday.com/2014/05/02/reading-paper-tapes-from-scratch/

Of course my assumption above is based on tape that is still complete. 
If it has holes or can't be pulled then, yes, photographing and visually 
reading the dot patterns may be necessary, but that sounds rather 
impractical if there are more than a couple of tapes to transcribe.


John :-#)#

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Dec items for sale or trade (winter cleaning), HP

2016-01-21 Thread Paul Anderson
8-A boards- i found more, or most, but no FP8

Quantity of LA34, 38, 50, 100, 120 printers and parts

Quantity of DECMATE, Rainbow, and PRO units and parts


H7883 ps
H7894-MA ps
30-43120-01 ps
30-44712-01 ps

DEC PC WXE-A2 (2)
DEC PC443 DXLP
CELEBRIS 560 830WW
VENTURIS 466 854WW  (2, one is very rough)
VENTURIS 575 821WW

VS42S-JC
VT1200 VX10A-AA

HP 82901M flexible disc drive

Shipping from 61853. Feel free to contact me off list with any questions
and offers.

Paul


UA11 Boards have arrived!!

2016-01-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
I know some folks sent an email to me indicating their desire for a UA11 
board but others may have waited until they arrived.  The boards arrived 
this week (I'm just getting to it because I was out of town on 
business).  They actually got here a week a head of schedule (yea!).


The price will be $99/ea + shipping.  To make it easy, I'll be using 
USPS priority with flat rate boxes, so within the USA I'll be charging 
$15 for packing and shipping, so the total will be $114 (for folks that 
want more than one board I can probably fit 2-4 boards in the flat rate 
box so I'll only charge shipping once).  I will also be including 1 copy 
of printed documentation with each order (if you purchase multiple 
boards in a single order, you'll only get one copy).


I accept paypal to g...@shiresoft.com.  If you don't want to use paypal, 
email me directly and we can figure something out.  In any case, please 
email me to indicate the number of boards that you'd like and where you 
want them shipped.


The folks who have emailed me previously will have priority.

TTFN - Guy


RE: Restoring Old Paper Tape

2016-01-21 Thread Jay West
By all means, let's discuss and it will be a useful and fascinating 
conversation both now and in the future.

But just as a thought for the more immediate issue (your tapes)... I find it 
somewhat unlikely that a significant number of early HP 21XX paper tapes are 
not already archived, or in good condition elsewhere. So at least regarding 
your particular stash of tapes, I'd suggest first getting a list up of what all 
you have. At the least, you may find machine readable images already exist, or 
that of all your tapes there's only 3 that should be given heroic efforts

There's a major percentage of those tapes online, and I have a pretty huge 
(cases and cases) stash of early 2114/5/6 & 2100 tapes I haven't even cataloged 
yet. I should do the same, but at least mine are all (currently) in pristine 
shape :)

J




Re: Restoring Old Paper Tape

2016-01-21 Thread Charles Anthony
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Jason T  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Charles Anthony
>  wrote:
> > For part 2, personally, I would take movies of the paper tape moving and
> > doing image analysis to recover that data; this occurs to me because I've
> > done a fair bit of image recognition software, so this solution may not
> be
> > feasible for all. If you sent me a sample movie, I would make a stab at
> > writing some data recovery software.
>
> I have heard of those approach and was thinking it may be a solution
> in cases where the tape is too fragile (and that's pretty likely
> here.)  It would be well beyond my abilities but might make an
> interesting project for you or anyone else with the skills.
>


The general approach would be to have the tape backlit (on a piece of
glass, with a light source and and diffuser underneath ) and  guide block
that the tape slides against so the holes move left-to-right but not up and
down. The camera is set up so that the tape fills the image as much as is
feasible. You start the camera, and slide the tape. Constant speed is not
important, but avoid backing up.

Grab a frame from the movie. Figure out the approximate pixel coordinates
of the data and pin feed holes in the axis moving across the tape (eg, the
1 bit is about 24 pixels from the top of the image, the 2 bit is about 47
pixels from the top, etc).

Process the movie a frame at a time. Grab a column of pixels from the
center of the image from top to bottom. Look at the pixels around where the
pin feed is, decide if they are light or dark. If light, the a character is
centered in the column. If not, move to the next frame. look at the pixels
around where each data bit is, and decide if the are light (punched) or
dark (unpunched). Write out that data. Skip frames until the pin feed
pixels go dark, and then skip frames until it goes light again; that will
be the next character. Repeat.

The pin feed holes greatly simplify the process. This process is quite
analogous to reading multi-track magnetic media with a timing track.

Test on a known tape. Debug. Run over damaged tapes; data recovered.

-- Charles


Re: Restoring Old Paper Tape

2016-01-21 Thread Jason T
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Charles Anthony
 wrote:
> For part 2, personally, I would take movies of the paper tape moving and
> doing image analysis to recover that data; this occurs to me because I've
> done a fair bit of image recognition software, so this solution may not be
> feasible for all. If you sent me a sample movie, I would make a stab at
> writing some data recovery software.

I have heard of those approach and was thinking it may be a solution
in cases where the tape is too fragile (and that's pretty likely
here.)  It would be well beyond my abilities but might make an
interesting project for you or anyone else with the skills.


Fwd: Re: Kaypro Motherboard Add-On Question

2016-01-21 Thread Jim Brain

Hmm, no one able to help?


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: Kaypro Motherboard Add-On Question
Date:   Fri, 8 Jan 2016 22:25:39 -0600
From:   Jim Brain 
To: 	General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 





On 12/12/2015 10:52 AM, Glen Slick wrote:

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Jim Brain  wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-KAYPRO-4-COMPUTER-MOTHERBOARD-/331730690952?

The non soldermask boad on top of the main unit intrigues me.  Does anyone
know what it is?

Jim

The board says Centram Systems, Inc, Camp Hill, Pa.

There is a marketing blurb in the August 15, 1983 issue of
Computerworld. Don't know if it is for that exact board.

Long ugly link:
https://books.google.com/books?id=soGti0kvtgwC&pg=RA1-PA71&lpg=RA1-PA71&dq=centram-systems+inc+kaypro&source=bl&ots=6Vnr0qZn3W&sig=otazIdpkt4Y5Oyrp9jjKKrv_dq4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHtaP34tbJAhUL9mMKHWnaDYQQ6AEIIDAB#v=onepage&q=centram-systems%20inc%20kaypro

Sorry for the delayed update, but after a few relistings, I was able to
secure the PCB for a reasonable price.

It is indeed the board listed on the link, and here is another link:

https://books.google.com/books?id=7xNVMAAJ&pg=PA267&lpg=PA267&dq=the+web+nt+centram+systems+inc+kaypro&source=bl&ots=xy6yxBjbgc&sig=ByqG8cnOV0sZbxZDf3rKwxA30rg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirpYH76pvKAhWDNiYKHeDfA2oQ6AEIIDAB#v=onepage&q=the%20web%20nt%20centram%20systems%20inc%20kaypro&f=false

The product is called "KayNet", a baseband twisted pair CSMA/CD local
network operating at 125kbps.  It uses a network called Web, designed by
Centram Systems, Inc. of Camp Hill, PA.  The network software , OPSnet,
was written by Aquinas, INc., and is compatible with CP/M 2.2

I secured the board, but it needs to be reverse engineered and I lack
the time at present.  Anyone want to take on the effort?

I also need to track down OPSnet OS, and I think there is a bit more to
this board (the documentation I found mentions a switch and an RJ-11
connector.  I see what looks like the LED wires on the PCB, and there
are 3 more pins on the PCB that could be the RJ11 pins. There is a wire
that is soldered to U65:pin4 on the motherboard, which I assume is the
switch but maybe hooked to this gate as a way to make the switch a
softswitch.

Here is some documentation:

https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_kayproKayn_4822341/Kaynet_Users_Guide_1983_djvu.txt

Here is the KayNET documentation:

https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_kayproKayn_4822341
http://maben.homeip.net/static/S100/kaypro/hardware/kaypro%20kaynet%20users%20guide.pdf
(Thanks Jason Scott!)


Anyone interested in bringing this network back to life?  I am happy to
design and manufacture replacement PCBs at cost for this...


More on KayNET:

https://books.google.com/books?id=ui8EMBAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=kaynet+kaypro&source=bl&ots=0BU3jTdrH3&sig=LsCiZJVRumQ7QgRa1-QpuzpefQ8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiOjZLr75vKAhXL8CYKHVxUAdwQ6AEIKjAC#v=onepage&q=kaynet%20kaypro&f=false
http://gopherproxy.meulie.net/gopher.floodgap.com/0/archive/walnut-creek-cd-simtel/KAYPRO/KPRO-LAN.INF

This looks very interesting, but I think I need help to move forward.

Jim

--
Jim Brain
br...@jbrain.com
www.jbrain.com





Re: Restoring Old Paper Tape

2016-01-21 Thread Charles Anthony
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Jason T  wrote:

> I'm tossing this out here as a conversation-starter more than a
> request for help, although I may end up putting the knowledge to use.
> Today I received a set of original HP paper tapes for the 2115a
> machine.  I don't know if they've been archived or not - there are
> dozens of HP tapes on bitsavers and I'll have to make a P/N list and
> compare them.  The real problem is they're in horrible shape.  Decades
> of basement moisture and likely a few critters have turned them
> blackened, moldy and stuck together.
>
> So, what to do?  How to get to the data without a bio-hazardous
> payload along for the ride?  My thoughts go toward sunlight and/or U/V
> light (like a hair salon sanitizer,) rubber gloves and a mask,
> isopropyl alcohol, careful picking apart of layers, etc.  I'd think
> one thing in our favor is that holes in paper are going to be easier
> to read than ink on paper.  So Part 1 is getting them into readable
> condition, with part 2 being the actual reading.
>
>
For part 2, personally, I would take movies of the paper tape moving and
doing image analysis to recover that data; this occurs to me because I've
done a fair bit of image recognition software, so this solution may not be
feasible for all. If you sent me a sample movie, I would make a stab at
writing some data recovery software.

-- Charles


Restoring Old Paper Tape

2016-01-21 Thread Jason T
I'm tossing this out here as a conversation-starter more than a
request for help, although I may end up putting the knowledge to use.
Today I received a set of original HP paper tapes for the 2115a
machine.  I don't know if they've been archived or not - there are
dozens of HP tapes on bitsavers and I'll have to make a P/N list and
compare them.  The real problem is they're in horrible shape.  Decades
of basement moisture and likely a few critters have turned them
blackened, moldy and stuck together.

So, what to do?  How to get to the data without a bio-hazardous
payload along for the ride?  My thoughts go toward sunlight and/or U/V
light (like a hair salon sanitizer,) rubber gloves and a mask,
isopropyl alcohol, careful picking apart of layers, etc.  I'd think
one thing in our favor is that holes in paper are going to be easier
to read than ink on paper.  So Part 1 is getting them into readable
condition, with part 2 being the actual reading.

Any experience out there?

-j


Re: Any Collectors in Italy, near Milan?

2016-01-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
If some italian friend could find me one of these...
http://fraelbruc100.msxit.org/
:)

2016-01-21 22:06 GMT-02:00 supervinx :

> Well.. I'm in Italy but far away... (in the south)
> You can visit MuPin in Turin.
> Let me think a bit... I'll post something else.
> There's a lot of collector, but they don't read this list...
> --
> Vincenzo (aka Supervinx)
>
> --==ooOoo==--
> My computer collection:
> http://www.supervinx.com/OnlineMuseum
>
> --==ooOoo==--
> You can reach me at:
> www.supervinx.com
> www.facebook.com/supervinx
> http://www.youtube.com/user/supervinx
> http://www.myspace.com/supervinx
>
>


Re: Any Collectors in Italy, near Milan?

2016-01-21 Thread supervinx
Well.. I'm in Italy but far away... (in the south)
You can visit MuPin in Turin.
Let me think a bit... I'll post something else.
There's a lot of collector, but they don't read this list...
-- 
Vincenzo (aka Supervinx)

--==ooOoo==--
My computer collection:
http://www.supervinx.com/OnlineMuseum

--==ooOoo==--
You can reach me at:
www.supervinx.com
www.facebook.com/supervinx
http://www.youtube.com/user/supervinx
http://www.myspace.com/supervinx



Re: Any Collectors in Italy, near Milan?

2016-01-21 Thread dwight
Do a search for Olivetti M20. You'll find several people in Italy. The M20
was a Z8000 processor and is more interesting than the 8088/86
machines.
Even so, they may connect you to other DEC collectors.
Dwight



From: cctalk  on behalf of Robert Jarratt 

Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:58 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Any Collectors in Italy, near Milan?

I am going to be visiting Milan in a few weeks' time.



I was wondering if there are any collectors on this list who live in that
area, who would like to show off their collection, if I can get a bit of
time away from the family? I have a particular interest in DEC machines, but
other makes also interest me.



If so, please get in touch



Regards



Rob



Any Collectors in Italy, near Milan?

2016-01-21 Thread Robert Jarratt
I am going to be visiting Milan in a few weeks' time.

 

I was wondering if there are any collectors on this list who live in that
area, who would like to show off their collection, if I can get a bit of
time away from the family? I have a particular interest in DEC machines, but
other makes also interest me.

 

If so, please get in touch

 

Regards

 

Rob



Looking for an IBM SP/2 (the supercomputer, not a typo)

2016-01-21 Thread JP Hindin


I was contacted by a guy who works for a computing lab at a major US 
University on the East Coast who is looking for an SP/2 they can display 
in their lobby.


I have one, but it'll be a monumental pain in the  to get out of 
here. I wanted to drop a line and see if anyone had one they'd be willing 
to part with in the US, preferably near-ish to the right coast.


Thanks all;

 - JP


Re: C64 system cost?

2016-01-21 Thread Mike Stein

- Original Message - 
From: "william degnan" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: C64 system cost?


> >
>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Mike Stein, while you're printing and delivering these, I'd like to offer
>> > my opinion that, as much as I appreciate a contemporary,
>> high-performance,
>> > hyper-complex web stack (I work on this stuff for my career), there's
>> > certainly beauty in a plain-jane http server that's easily manageable by
>> > one guy, simple and reliable.  I looked at it and there's no shame in
>> Jim's
>> > stuff -- it's quite adequate and arguably exactly the right tool for the
>> > job.
>> >
>> > thx
>> > jake
>>
>> Sorry, Jake, not sure what you're trying to say.
>>
>> m
>>
> 
> 
> Mike,
> I think Jake means that it's ok to have a simple web site.
> Bill

Ah, Joe's site, not Jim's; got it. 

Agreed; too many sites ignore that there are still folks out there with 
pay-per-byte or dial-up access, not to mention the frustration of wading 
through a lot of prettifying fluff.

m


Re: C64 system cost?

2016-01-21 Thread william degnan
>
>
> >>
> >
> > Mike Stein, while you're printing and delivering these, I'd like to offer
> > my opinion that, as much as I appreciate a contemporary,
> high-performance,
> > hyper-complex web stack (I work on this stuff for my career), there's
> > certainly beauty in a plain-jane http server that's easily manageable by
> > one guy, simple and reliable.  I looked at it and there's no shame in
> Jim's
> > stuff -- it's quite adequate and arguably exactly the right tool for the
> > job.
> >
> > thx
> > jake
>
> Sorry, Jake, not sure what you're trying to say.
>
> m
>


Mike,
I think Jake means that it's ok to have a simple web site.
Bill

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Re: C64 system cost?

2016-01-21 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - 
From: "Jacob Ritorto" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: C64 system cost?


> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:58 AM, Mike Stein  wrote
> [...]
>>
>> I'll give Joe a printout of these messages when I see him tomorrow to let
>> him know what folks are saying about him; as Jim says he's usually pretty
>> good but s**t happens sometimes.
>>
> 
> Mike Stein, while you're printing and delivering these, I'd like to offer
> my opinion that, as much as I appreciate a contemporary, high-performance,
> hyper-complex web stack (I work on this stuff for my career), there's
> certainly beauty in a plain-jane http server that's easily manageable by
> one guy, simple and reliable.  I looked at it and there's no shame in Jim's
> stuff -- it's quite adequate and arguably exactly the right tool for the
> job.
> 
> thx
> jake

Sorry, Jake, not sure what you're trying to say.

m


RE: Preferred way of substituting TFT for CRT Monitor?

2016-01-21 Thread tony duell
> Just for my understanding: if I do the math: 512 pixels x 400 rows = 204'800 
> pixels
>  at 50 Hz I end up with 10.2 MHz and at 60 Hz = 12.3 MHz.
> There is more "room" required for the retrace time, probably another 10% or 
> so?

To avoid the inaccuracies from the unknown vertical retrace time (and unused 
lines, etc)
I would say that 512 pixels per line and 25kHz line time -> a pixel rate of at 
least 12.8MHz.
It will be higher than that due to the horizontal retrace time, of course

> So I understand that the monitor must be capable of ~25 kHz and 10...14 MHz 
> and that 
> I better try before buy.

Yes.

> It is difficult to find specs for these HP 9000 video boards.

I have no idea as to the resolution, but there is an HP98204A that outputs TV 
rate
(US or European I think) video.

-tony


RE: Preferred way of substituting TFT for CRT Monitor?

2016-01-21 Thread Martin.Hepperle
Yesterday I checked the 9000/217 98204B combo with my oscilloscope and  I can 
confirm the 25kHz horz. frequency (1V down to 0.3V pulses every 40 us).
I cannot measure the pixel clock as my oscilloscope was too cheap (I had to 
compromise) and thus cannot sample at higher MHz rates. I only see that it goes 
from 1V to approx. 2.2V.
Just for my understanding: if I do the math: 512 pixels x 400 rows = 204'800 
pixels at 50 Hz I end up with 10.2 MHz and at 60 Hz = 12.3 MHz.
There is more "room" required for the retrace time, probably another 10% or so?
So I understand that the monitor must be capable of ~25 kHz and 10...14 MHz and 
that I better try before buy.

It is difficult to find specs for these HP 9000 video boards.
In case it is useful for someone ... my list below is still missing DIO-bus 
type (1 or 2) and signal frequencies.

98204B Video Board   medium resolution (512x390)monochrome for 
35721 monitor, DIO-1
98542A Monochrome Video Boardmedium resolution (512x400)monochrome
98543A Color Video Board medium resolution (512x400)16 colors
98544B Monochrome Video Boardhigh resolution (1024x768) monochrome
98545A Color Video Board high resolution (1024x768) 16 colors
98546A/B Monochrome Video Board  medium resolution (512x390)monochrome 
alpha/graphics, for 216/217 display compatibility
   (a pair of cards, compatible with 2136 and 217 displays (512x390, 25x80))
98547A Color Video Board high resolution (1024x768) 64 colors
98548A Monochrome Video Boardhigh resolution (1280x1024)high performance
98549A Color Video Board high resolution (1280x1024)high performance
98550A Color Video Board high resolution (1280x1024)high performance
98700A Graphics Display Station  high resolution (1024x768) 256 colors
98710A Graphics Accelerator  optional for 98700A
98720A High Performance Boardhigh resolution (1280x1024) nur HP-UX, 
requires 98724AA interface and 98784A monitor
98730A High Performance Boardhigh resolution (1280x1024) nur HP-UX
98722 memory upgrade optional for 98720A

Martin



Re: C64 system cost?

2016-01-21 Thread Jacob Ritorto
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:58 AM, Mike Stein  wrote
[...]
>
> I'll give Joe a printout of these messages when I see him tomorrow to let
> him know what folks are saying about him; as Jim says he's usually pretty
> good but s**t happens sometimes.
>

Mike Stein, while you're printing and delivering these, I'd like to offer
my opinion that, as much as I appreciate a contemporary, high-performance,
hyper-complex web stack (I work on this stuff for my career), there's
certainly beauty in a plain-jane http server that's easily manageable by
one guy, simple and reliable.  I looked at it and there's no shame in Jim's
stuff -- it's quite adequate and arguably exactly the right tool for the
job.

thx
jake


Re: Data Recovery Services

2016-01-21 Thread Liam Proven
On 21 January 2016 at 12:50, Peter Faraday  wrote:
> Iv had some luck with drives where the head gets suck in the park position.
> If the drive spins up then shuts down it could be this. Bit of an
> agricultural fix but, take the lid off and give the head a slight nudge off
> the centre and get the lid back on quick.  I'm lead to believe this will
> only work with old drives dew to the tolerances in gap of head to platter.
> Big risk with this is crashing the head into the disk but iv used it a few
> time with 100% success. The drives were from early 90s


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiction#Hard_disk_drives

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Re: Data Recovery Services

2016-01-21 Thread Peter Faraday
Iv had some luck with drives where the head gets suck in the park position.
If the drive spins up then shuts down it could be this. Bit of an
agricultural fix but, take the lid off and give the head a slight nudge off
the centre and get the lid back on quick.  I'm lead to believe this will
only work with old drives dew to the tolerances in gap of head to platter.
Big risk with this is crashing the head into the disk but iv used it a few
time with 100% success. The drives were from early 90s

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Chuck Guzis  wrote:

> On 01/20/2016 11:26 AM, Pete Rittwage wrote:
>
> The services can be expensive (in the thousands, typically) so the data has
>> to be pretty valuable to you in order to proceed.
>>
>
> I'll second Drivesavers--they've recovered very damaged drives, including
> a few buried in mud after a hurricaine.  They'll rebuild a drive if they
> have to.
>
> They're also one of the few companies who have working relationships with
> SSD makers and claim that they can un-brick many dead SSDs.
>
> Nice people, too.  But yes, expensive, very.
>
> --Chuck
>
>