Re: Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

[Mark Linimon]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:52:46PM -0800, Ian S. King wrote:
> There are a few things I'd like from that list as well, but (a) I'm not
> going to Austin to get it

I'm in Austin and I'm not going across town to get it :-)

Frankly I already have some stuff that looks in better shape than that, out
in my shop.

mcl

Re: Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

[Ian S. King]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Mark Linimon  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 09:59:18PM -0800, jim stephens wrote:
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/361777459013
>
> Looks like all the other seller's items are high by a factor of 10
> as well :-)
>
> Too bad.  I would have given the Motorola a home.  Maybe even those
> Sun 4/110s out of nostalgia.
>
> mcl
>

There are a few things I'd like from that list as well, but (a) I'm not
going to Austin to get it and (b) tuition will be due soon.  :-)  And
frankly, the stuff looks filthy - you have to wonder what it looks like
inside.

-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

[Mark Linimon]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 09:59:18PM -0800, jim stephens wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/361777459013

Looks like all the other seller's items are high by a factor of 10
as well :-)

Too bad.  I would have given the Motorola a home.  Maybe even those
Sun 4/110s out of nostalgia.

mcl

Re: Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

[jim stephens]

On 11/13/2016 9:09 PM, Warner Losh wrote:

That was fast, it's already gone...

Warner

I bungled the edit of the link, sorry

/MUSEUM-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-LOT-COLLECTION-FLOPPY-APPLE-NORTHSTAR-IBM-TI-XEROX-TEJAS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361777459013

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:07 PM, jim stephens  wrote:

I did not go back thru the list for the prior discussion of this, but found
this pile listed again, local pickup in Austin.  IIRC, the seller was a
flake listing and relisting it a number of times.  This time the Buy it Now
price id $999

Local Pickup Austin

MUSEUM-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-LOT-COLLECTION-FLOPPY-APPLE-NORTHSTAR-IBM-TI-XEROX-TEJAS/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3617774590138

Re: Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

[Warner Losh]

That was fast, it's already gone...

Warner

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:07 PM, jim stephens  wrote:
> I did not go back thru the list for the prior discussion of this, but found
> this pile listed again, local pickup in Austin.  IIRC, the seller was a
> flake listing and relisting it a number of times.  This time the Buy it Now
> price id $999
>
> Local Pickup Austin
>
> MUSEUM-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-LOT-COLLECTION-FLOPPY-APPLE-NORTHSTAR-IBM-TI-XEROX-TEJAS/
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3617774590138

Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

[jim stephens]

I did not go back thru the list for the prior discussion of this, but 
found this pile listed again, local pickup in Austin.  IIRC, the seller 
was a flake listing and relisting it a number of times.  This time the 
Buy it Now price id $999


Local Pickup Austin

MUSEUM-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-LOT-COLLECTION-FLOPPY-APPLE-NORTHSTAR-IBM-TI-XEROX-TEJAS/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3617774590138

Re: TSC UniFLEX 68k

[Glen Slick]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:
> seeing if 'x'x'x' is tripping the list profanity filter
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: TSC UniFLEX 68xxx
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 12:38:38 -0800
> From: Al Kossow 
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
>
> I wanted to see if anyone has any more information or software distribution 
> disks
> than what I just put up on bitsavers under tsc and gimix. I have a hard disk 
> image
> for the GMX Micro-20 that I just bought on eBay, but no distribution floppies.
>

This one? Looked like an interesting system. Something I had never
seen before. Glad I didn't also bid it up if you ended up with it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/97883938

Fwd: TSC UniFLEX 68k

[Al Kossow]

seeing if 'x'x'x' is tripping the list profanity filter


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: TSC UniFLEX 68xxx
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 12:38:38 -0800
From: Al Kossow 
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 

I wanted to see if anyone has any more information or software distribution 
disks
than what I just put up on bitsavers under tsc and gimix. I have a hard disk 
image
for the GMX Micro-20 that I just bought on eBay, but no distribution floppies.

I didn't realize that the 68K version was so uncommon, since the 6809 version 
seems
to be everywhere.

HP-150 tech manual up now on bitsavers

[Al Kossow]

The person working on Integral PC emulation in MAME asked for it, so it's up 
now under pdf/hp/hp150
Unfortunately, what he was looking for was info on the graphics ASIC, which 
isn't really talked about at all :-(

Wanted: RL02 terminator

[Tom Moss]

Hi All,

I've just picked up an 11/53 with an RL02, but there's no terminator.
Does anyone have one for sale? (or trade perhaps?)

Regards,
-Tom

TEST - PLEASE IGNORE

[Ali]

TEST POST. 

Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[dwight]

This will be about as close to drop in as one can get.

The adapter will hide under the 6532 with very little hanging

out the sides. Unlike the adapter for the Gottlieb pins.

It'll be about 1/3 taller other than originally.

I doubt you'll find any originals, other than on another KIM-1.

Dwight




From: cctalk  on behalf of Cameron Kaiser 

Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:12:07 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

> While developing it, I found that my 6530-002 is bad. As we all know, these
> are custom made and no longer available. There is a similar part, the 6532
> that is similar, without ROM.
> I've begun making a hand wired adapter with a EEPROM. This will be in a
> stacked socket under the 6532. I expect to use the debug board to program it
> in place.
> After verifying that every thing works, I may create PC boards for the debug
> and 6532 adapter.
> I know there are a number of dead KIM-1s out there.
> I'm looking to see how many people would be interested in buying a set of
> boards? I'm thinking in the range of $10 to $20 someplace, depending on
> volume.

I'd be interested, though I'd prefer something that was a drop-in replacement.
I'd be willing to pay additional for that.

--
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com 
* ckai...@floodgap.com
-- I put the fun in funeral. --

RE: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[Ali]

> I can populate the adapter boards with the SOIC parts and leave the
> rest to the person buying the boards.
> 
> Please let me know how many people would be interested??
> 
> Dwight
> 
> 
> 
> Dwight

Dwight,

Please put me down for one! 

Ali

Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[Ryan K. Brooks]

On 11/13/16 12:12 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

While developing it, I found that my 6530-002 is bad. As we all know, these
are custom made and no longer available. There is a similar part, the 6532
that is similar, without ROM.
I've begun making a hand wired adapter with a EEPROM. This will be in a
stacked socket under the 6532. I expect to use the debug board to program it
in place.
After verifying that every thing works, I may create PC boards for the debug
and 6532 adapter.
I know there are a number of dead KIM-1s out there.
I'm looking to see how many people would be interested in buying a set of
boards? I'm thinking in the range of $10 to $20 someplace, depending on
volume.

I'd be interested, though I'd prefer something that was a drop-in replacement.
I'd be willing to pay additional for that.


Same here.  I have a dead KIM because of a bad 6530.

Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[Cameron Kaiser]

> While developing it, I found that my 6530-002 is bad. As we all know, these
> are custom made and no longer available. There is a similar part, the 6532
> that is similar, without ROM.
> I've begun making a hand wired adapter with a EEPROM. This will be in a
> stacked socket under the 6532. I expect to use the debug board to program it
> in place.
> After verifying that every thing works, I may create PC boards for the debug
> and 6532 adapter.
> I know there are a number of dead KIM-1s out there.
> I'm looking to see how many people would be interested in buying a set of
> boards? I'm thinking in the range of $10 to $20 someplace, depending on
> volume.

I'd be interested, though I'd prefer something that was a drop-in replacement.
I'd be willing to pay additional for that.

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- I put the fun in funeral. --

Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[Pete Turnbull]

On 13/11/2016 15:52, dwight wrote:


I've created a simple debugging board that one can plug onto the
KIM's expansion buss that has debug code on it. It allows one to find
out what is failing on the KIM so they know what to replace.

While developing it, I found that my 6530-002 is bad. As we all know,
these are custom made and no longer available. There is a similar
part, the 6532 that is similar, without ROM.



After verifying that every thing works, I may create PC boards for
the debug and 6532 adapter.



I'm looking to see how many people would be interested in buying a
set of boards?


Count me in, please.

--
Pete
Pete Turnbull

Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[Santo Nucifora]

Count me in for one set of boards.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:52 AM, dwight  wrote:

>
> I've started a new thread.
>
> See:
>
>
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?54850-Debugging-a-KIM-1-computer
>
>
> I've created a simple debugging board that one can plug onto the KIM's
> expansion buss that has debug code on it. It allows one to find out what is
> failing on the KIM so they know what to replace.
>
> While developing it, I found that my 6530-002 is bad. As we all know,
> these are custom made and no longer available. There is a similar part, the
> 6532 that is similar, without ROM.
>
> It can be used with an adapter. I've reviewed both specifications and
> believe I've figured out how to do it. Others have made them that are
> configured for the Gottlieb pinball machines but they will not work for the
> KIM because the KIM selects are configured differently.
>
> I've begun making a hand wired adapter with a EEPROM. This will be in a
> stacked socket under the 6532. I expect to use the debug board to program
> it in place.
>
> After verifying that every thing works, I may create PC boards for the
> debug and 6532 adapter.
>
> I know there are a number of dead KIM-1s out there.
>
> I'm looking to see how many people would be interested in buying a set of
> boards? I'm thinking in the range of $10 to $20 someplace, depending on
> volume. I expect to have two small boards for each adapter and one for the
> debug board. I'll most likely have them made as a set to save cost.
>
> I can populate the adapter boards with the SOIC parts and leave the rest
> to the person buying the boards.
>
> Please let me know how many people would be interested??
>
> Dwight
>
>
>
> Dwight
>
>
> Debugging a KIM-1 computer forum/showthread.php?54850-Debugging-a-KIM-1-computer>
> www.vcfed.org
> This is a discussion forum about vintage computer collecting, use,
> restoration and display powered by vBulletin. To find out about vBulletin,
> go to http://www.vbulletin.com/ .
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: cctalk  on behalf of dwight <
> dkel...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:19:25 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool
>
> I still need to post the final schematic. A new thread might be a good
>
> idea.
>
> I wanted to keep the board as simple as possible so one could just
>
> wire wrap or point to point it.
>
> It only has a 7474, 7402 and a 7404 as well as the EPROM.
>
> It could easily be done with a GAL or PAL and the EPROM.
>
> I think two schematics showing each would be best.
>
> Dwight
>
>
> 
> From: cctalk  on behalf of Ali <
> cct...@ibm51xx.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 10:25:16 PM
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> Subject: RE: KIM-1 Debugging tool
>
> > I've been making a debugging ROM board to test out the various
> >
> > parts of the KIM-1. It is based on taking over the KIM at reset
> >
> > and running test.
> >
> > So far I've got two test working. One is a basic, is it running test
> >
> > that just blinks a light on the debug board.
> >
> > The next is a test of the first 1K of RAM.
> >
> > A little tricky to do without RAM.
> >
> > I expect to write some more for the RRIOT ics.
> >
> > If anyone has interest, they can follow me on the Vintage
> >
> > Computer Forum or contact me here.
> >
> > The board has 3 ttl ICs, a 2764/27128 EPROM, a couple
> >
> > LEDs and a dip switch. Also a few pullup resistors and capacitors.
> >
> > Dwight
>
>
> Dwight,
>
> That is a pretty cool project. May I suggest you break it out on VCF into
> its own thread so people can more easily follow what is going on? For those
> interested in the original thread:
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?52155-KIM-1-No-Action/
> KIM-1 No Action KIM-1-No-Action/>
> www.vcfed.org
> This is a discussion forum about vintage computer collecting, use,
> restoration and display powered by vBulletin. To find out about vBulletin,
> go to http://www.vbulletin.com/ .
>
>
>
>
> -Ali
>
>

Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

[dwight]

I've started a new thread.

See:


http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?54850-Debugging-a-KIM-1-computer


I've created a simple debugging board that one can plug onto the KIM's 
expansion buss that has debug code on it. It allows one to find out what is 
failing on the KIM so they know what to replace.

While developing it, I found that my 6530-002 is bad. As we all know, these are 
custom made and no longer available. There is a similar part, the 6532 that is 
similar, without ROM.

It can be used with an adapter. I've reviewed both specifications and believe 
I've figured out how to do it. Others have made them that are configured for 
the Gottlieb pinball machines but they will not work for the KIM because the 
KIM selects are configured differently.

I've begun making a hand wired adapter with a EEPROM. This will be in a stacked 
socket under the 6532. I expect to use the debug board to program it in place.

After verifying that every thing works, I may create PC boards for the debug 
and 6532 adapter.

I know there are a number of dead KIM-1s out there.

I'm looking to see how many people would be interested in buying a set of 
boards? I'm thinking in the range of $10 to $20 someplace, depending on volume. 
I expect to have two small boards for each adapter and one for the debug board. 
I'll most likely have them made as a set to save cost.

I can populate the adapter boards with the SOIC parts and leave the rest to the 
person buying the boards.

Please let me know how many people would be interested??

Dwight



Dwight


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From: cctalk  on behalf of dwight 

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:19:25 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: KIM-1 Debugging tool

I still need to post the final schematic. A new thread might be a good

idea.

I wanted to keep the board as simple as possible so one could just

wire wrap or point to point it.

It only has a 7474, 7402 and a 7404 as well as the EPROM.

It could easily be done with a GAL or PAL and the EPROM.

I think two schematics showing each would be best.

Dwight



From: cctalk  on behalf of Ali 

Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 10:25:16 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: KIM-1 Debugging tool

> I've been making a debugging ROM board to test out the various
>
> parts of the KIM-1. It is based on taking over the KIM at reset
>
> and running test.
>
> So far I've got two test working. One is a basic, is it running test
>
> that just blinks a light on the debug board.
>
> The next is a test of the first 1K of RAM.
>
> A little tricky to do without RAM.
>
> I expect to write some more for the RRIOT ics.
>
> If anyone has interest, they can follow me on the Vintage
>
> Computer Forum or contact me here.
>
> The board has 3 ttl ICs, a 2764/27128 EPROM, a couple
>
> LEDs and a dip switch. Also a few pullup resistors and capacitors.
>
> Dwight


Dwight,

That is a pretty cool project. May I suggest you break it out on VCF into
its own thread so people can more easily follow what is going on? For those
interested in the original thread:
http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?52155-KIM-1-No-Action/
KIM-1 No 
Action
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-Ali