Re: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

[COURYHOUSE]

Ah! Ok!  
heard of  it  but never seen an installation.
Great  find!
I am a little  foggy on it  but I somehow  remember  it  being able to 
control external devices  for process use
vs. the usual IBM stuff that  was just 'data processing'
Ed#
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/22/2016 12:31:26 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,  
g...@shiresoft.com writes:

The IBM  Series/1 was introduced in 1976 and withdrawn in 1988.  There  were
originally 2 models and another 2 models were added later.  I  always knew
them by their code names — different varieties of peaches…so  named because
they were developed by IBM’s GSD division which was  headquartered in
Atlanta, GA (even though all of the development was done  in Boca Raton, 
FL).

TTFN - Guy

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:11  PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> what is it?  looks too  new  for me, do not remember this  one
>  Ed#

> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/21/2016 9:30:06 P.M.  US Mountain Standard Time,  
> drlegen...@gmail.com writes:
>  
> The  vintage computing world is in your debt, Steven..  ;-)
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21,  2016 at 10:18 PM, Steven  Maresca  

> wrote:
>  
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at  10:50 PM, Ian Finder   
> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Someone go rescue this:
>>>  http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html
>>>  
>>> Or  palletize it and send it to me.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> --
>>>   Ian  Finder
>>>   (206)   395-MIPS
>>>   ian.fin...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  --
>>>  Ian Finder
>>>   (206)  395-MIPS
>>>  ian.fin...@gmail.com
>>>  
>> I'm in CT close enough to  make a rescue..I've reached out  to the 
poster.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>>  
> 

Re: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

[Guy Sotomayor Jr]

The IBM Series/1 was introduced in 1976 and withdrawn in 1988.  There were
originally 2 models and another 2 models were added later.  I always knew
them by their code names — different varieties of peaches…so named because
they were developed by IBM’s GSD division which was headquartered in
Atlanta, GA (even though all of the development was done in Boca Raton, FL).

TTFN - Guy

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:11 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> what is it?  looks too new  for me, do not remember this  one
> Ed#
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/21/2016 9:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
> drlegen...@gmail.com writes:
> 
> The  vintage computing world is in your debt, Steven.. ;-)
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21,  2016 at 10:18 PM, Steven Maresca  
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at  10:50 PM, Ian Finder  
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Someone go rescue this:
>>> http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html
>>> 
>>> Or  palletize it and send it to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>>   Ian Finder
>>>   (206)  395-MIPS
>>>   ian.fin...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>>  Ian Finder
>>>   (206) 395-MIPS
>>>  ian.fin...@gmail.com
>>> 
>> I'm in CT close enough to  make a rescue..I've reached out to the poster.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>> 
> 

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[allison]

On 11/21/2016 05:44 PM, william degnan wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Weiss  wrote:
>
>>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan 
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all --

 I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started
>> working
 on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a
 lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now).

 My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but I'm
 looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit register)
>> to
 complete the set.  I have other DEC stuff for trade, drop me a line...

 Thanks!
 Josh

>>> Just curious, are you aware whether these two are required to boot a RL02
>>> disk or certain versions of RT-11?  I have been experiencing
>> difficulties,
>>> I only have the m737 iinstalled in my system.
>>> Bill
>>
>> RT11 will run w/o an LTC.
>>
>> TTBOMR the stack limit register is not need for Single Job and the
>> other RT11 OS variants.  However a  program could overwrite the vector area
>> and cause an ungraceful shutdown.  Make sure the jumpers on the KD11-A
>> are set
>> correctly for this configuration.
>>
>> Using an RL02 to boot RT11 should be okay as well.
>>
>> Jerry
>> j...@ieee.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Not exactly what TTBOMR is but I can say that given zero luck booting RT-11
> from an RL02 on my 11/40 my next move is to emulate a TU58 drive on a 2nd
> serial card and run XXDP.I can run BASIC with no problem, but it seems
> like my known working (elsewhere) M7762 RT11 controller card does not wake
> up when called by the bootstrap 9312 ROM, etc.
>
> b
>
Rt-11 must be configured for the controller that boots it at the CSR and
vector its using
(try the standard addresses/Vector). RT has few needs and will run on a
16K machine
with minimal hardware (console and boot device).   I have a 11/2 with
28KW and
DLV11J that boots RT-11FB from TU58 (very slowly but it does!).   That's
a tiny 4
slot Qbus machine (BA11VA) and is very minimal.

Also make sure your trying to boot RT11SJ initially as that has the
lowest needs.


Allison

Re: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

[COURYHOUSE]

what is it?  looks too new  for me, do not remember this  one
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 11/21/2016 9:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
drlegen...@gmail.com writes:

The  vintage computing world is in your debt, Steven.. ;-)

On Mon, Nov 21,  2016 at 10:18 PM, Steven Maresca  
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at  10:50 PM, Ian Finder  
wrote:
>
> >  Someone go rescue this:
> >  http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html
> >
> > Or  palletize it and send it to me.
> >
> >
> >  --
> >Ian Finder
> >(206)  395-MIPS
> >ian.fin...@gmail.com
> >  
>  >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >   Ian Finder
> >(206) 395-MIPS
> >   ian.fin...@gmail.com
> >
> I'm in CT close enough to  make a rescue..I've reached out to the poster.
>
>  Regards,
>  Steve
>

Re: Rogue: Mctesq was here

[Richard Loken]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

There's a Rogue for the Alpha Micro. I don't have source for it either, 
but it runs very well.


What is an Alpha Micro?

--
  Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS   : "...underneath those
  Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
  Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
  ** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black

Re: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

[drlegendre .]

The vintage computing world is in your debt, Steven.. ;-)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Steven Maresca 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Ian Finder  wrote:
>
> > Someone go rescue this:
> > http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html
> >
> > Or palletize it and send it to me.
> >
> >
> > --
> >Ian Finder
> >(206) 395-MIPS
> >ian.fin...@gmail.com
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >Ian Finder
> >(206) 395-MIPS
> >ian.fin...@gmail.com
> >
> I'm in CT close enough to make a rescue..I've reached out to the poster.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>

Re: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

[Steven Maresca]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Ian Finder  wrote:

> Someone go rescue this:
> http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html
>
> Or palletize it and send it to me.
>
>
> --
>Ian Finder
>(206) 395-MIPS
>ian.fin...@gmail.com
> 
>
>
>
>
> --
>Ian Finder
>(206) 395-MIPS
>ian.fin...@gmail.com
>
I'm in CT close enough to make a rescue..I've reached out to the poster.

Regards,
Steve

Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

[Ian Finder]

Someone go rescue this:
http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html

Or palletize it and send it to me.


-- 
   Ian Finder
   (206) 395-MIPS
   ian.fin...@gmail.com





-- 
   Ian Finder
   (206) 395-MIPS
   ian.fin...@gmail.com

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[Josh Dersch]

On 11/21/16 5:47 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:


 > From: Josh Dersch

 > The 11/40 is mostly working ... but I've been unable to boot anything
 > (like XXDP, for example).

What are you trying to boot from?
I've tried an emulated TU58 and (most recently) a UNIBUS SCSI controller 
that I'm fortunate enough to have.





 > Slot 9 of the CPU backplane is supposed to be an SPC slot but it
 > doesn't seem to work

Missing/hard-wired BG/NPG jumpers on that slot, maybe?
The NPG jumper on slot 9 is not present, and it has no effect on the NPG 
chain if i jumper it or not (the bus seems happy otherwise...) There 
appears to be no continuity between CA1/CB1 of slot 9 and CA1/CB1 of the 
SPC/MUD slots in the rest of the system.  It's very puzzling.  I need to 
sit down with the wire list (and copious Excedrin) and probe things out.




If not, plug one of Guy's UA11's into that slot, and see what's up! :-)


 > I assumed I needed the KJ11-A because the KT11-D manual specifies
 > (bottom of page 2-1): "When the KT11-D Memory Management Option is
 > added to an existing PDP-11 system, the KJ11-A Stack Limit Register
 > Option must also be added." So I assumed the MMU required this option
 > be present...

Hmm, I didn't recall that; not sure I ever knew that! (Sorry!)

I spent a short time looking at the KT11-D and KJ11-A prints, trying to see
exactly what the KT11-D wanted, but I wasn't able (yet) to fully grok the
interaction.

>From the KJ11-A prints, you can probably work around not having a KJ11-A card
by strapping the relevant outputs high or low (as the case might be), i.e.
simulating a KJ11-A which is not reporting a problem. Like I said, V6 doesn't
use the SLR for anything, so it's it's not actually working (i.e. reporting
stack transgressions), no biggie.

If you're determined, I did scan in a KJ11's PCB, so it would probably be
possible to produce 'after-marked' ones - it's not a very complicated card.


Thanks for looking into it.  I'm not desperate for a KJ11 yet, but it's 
good to have resources should one need to be built...





 >> You will also need the KE11-E (M7238), as the Unix C compiler emits
 >> MUL, DIV etc, and even the bootstrap uses them. The KE11-F (M7239) is
 >> useless; the V6 Unix C compiler doesn't generate that type of PDP-11
 >> floating point.

 > Yeah, that might be harder to find, I'd forgotten about that
 > requirement. I suppose I could run Ultrix-11 instead (I have that on my
 > 11/34 at the moment) as it'll run sans floating point hardware,

We seem to be having a communication failure. You don't need floating point
to run V6 or V7 on an 11/40. In addition, the hardware floating point
hardware on the 11/40 (the FIS) is a variety that Unix doesn't support anyway
(in the sense of, the C compiler doesn't generate FIS instructions).

It's the Exteded Instruction Set (EIS) card (which supports MUL, DIV, ASHC,
etc) which is necessary. No way UNIX (of any flavour) will run without those
instuctions (and thus, that card). If you don't have an M7238, start
looking
Sorry, sorry -- long day and it's been awhile since I looked at the 
11/40 in depth (just dusted it off last night).  I thought I had picked 
up an EIS years ago shortly after I picked up the machine but either my 
memory is faulty or it's disappeared somewhere (the former is more 
likely at this point, I actually do have things somewhat organized 
here).  So that adds another level of fun.


Maybe at this point I should be happy to get RT-11 working :).





BTW, what is your mass storage device? RL's? If so, vanilla V6 doesn't support
RL's, but I do have a V6 RL driver, I can either build you a system that will
run on an RL, or (if you bring up V6 under an emulator, so you can build
systems, etc) provide it so you can add it. You'll also need an RL bootstrap
(again, those are available, but not in vanilla V6).

Also, how are you getting the bits onto the mass storage? V6 can only be
'cold installed' onto a blank machine from a TM11 or TM02 tape drive. Failing
that, you have to put a V6 filesystem onto a disk on some other machine. Do
you have the ability to write packs on another machine/OS, and the ability to
get a Unix file system onto that system? Failing that, I'm in the process of
getting VTServer working to transfer V6 over a serial line to a blank machine
(my situation) - I got distracted before I got 100% finished, but I have it
all scoped out, and can get it done in a couple of hours from where I am now.


I have an RK11 and an RK05 (with the option of a 2nd RK05 if I ever get 
some mounting rails for it.)  I know the RK05s are tight storage-wise. I 
also have an RL02 but I need to repair an RL11 first.  (And there's 
always the SCSI controller, should I get up the nerve to backport an 
MSCP driver...) I should be able to wrangle bits onto media either using 
what I have, or by using stuff at the LCM, but the VTServer option 
sounds nice too.  The 

Re: Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

[Jon Elson]

On 11/21/2016 12:28 PM, Charles Dickman wrote:
I was looking here: 
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/360/fe/2020/Z33-1021-0_2020_Processing_Unit_FETOM_May68.pdf 
(pdf) pages 45, 46 describe the ALU And here: 
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/360/fe/2020/SY33-1024-0_2020_FEMDM_Vol_1_Apr69.pdf 
(pdf) pages 15 and 38 Data flows and ALU schematic 
Yes, indeed, it seems to show a quite different architecture 
than what I got from the part I referenced.
I had better stop as I am no expert on a 360/20, and the 
text SEEMED to contradict the schematics.


Jon

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[Noel Chiappa]

> From: Josh Dersch

> The 11/40 is mostly working ... but I've been unable to boot anything
> (like XXDP, for example).

What are you trying to boot from?

> Slot 9 of the CPU backplane is supposed to be an SPC slot but it
> doesn't seem to work

Missing/hard-wired BG/NPG jumpers on that slot, maybe?

If not, plug one of Guy's UA11's into that slot, and see what's up! :-)


> I assumed I needed the KJ11-A because the KT11-D manual specifies
> (bottom of page 2-1): "When the KT11-D Memory Management Option is
> added to an existing PDP-11 system, the KJ11-A Stack Limit Register
> Option must also be added." So I assumed the MMU required this option
> be present...

Hmm, I didn't recall that; not sure I ever knew that! (Sorry!)

I spent a short time looking at the KT11-D and KJ11-A prints, trying to see
exactly what the KT11-D wanted, but I wasn't able (yet) to fully grok the
interaction.

>From the KJ11-A prints, you can probably work around not having a KJ11-A card
by strapping the relevant outputs high or low (as the case might be), i.e.
simulating a KJ11-A which is not reporting a problem. Like I said, V6 doesn't
use the SLR for anything, so it's it's not actually working (i.e. reporting
stack transgressions), no biggie.

If you're determined, I did scan in a KJ11's PCB, so it would probably be
possible to produce 'after-marked' ones - it's not a very complicated card.


>> You will also need the KE11-E (M7238), as the Unix C compiler emits
>> MUL, DIV etc, and even the bootstrap uses them. The KE11-F (M7239) is
>> useless; the V6 Unix C compiler doesn't generate that type of PDP-11
>> floating point.

> Yeah, that might be harder to find, I'd forgotten about that
> requirement. I suppose I could run Ultrix-11 instead (I have that on my
> 11/34 at the moment) as it'll run sans floating point hardware,

We seem to be having a communication failure. You don't need floating point
to run V6 or V7 on an 11/40. In addition, the hardware floating point
hardware on the 11/40 (the FIS) is a variety that Unix doesn't support anyway
(in the sense of, the C compiler doesn't generate FIS instructions).

It's the Exteded Instruction Set (EIS) card (which supports MUL, DIV, ASHC,
etc) which is necessary. No way UNIX (of any flavour) will run without those
instuctions (and thus, that card). If you don't have an M7238, start
looking


BTW, what is your mass storage device? RL's? If so, vanilla V6 doesn't support
RL's, but I do have a V6 RL driver, I can either build you a system that will
run on an RL, or (if you bring up V6 under an emulator, so you can build
systems, etc) provide it so you can add it. You'll also need an RL bootstrap
(again, those are available, but not in vanilla V6).

Also, how are you getting the bits onto the mass storage? V6 can only be
'cold installed' onto a blank machine from a TM11 or TM02 tape drive. Failing
that, you have to put a V6 filesystem onto a disk on some other machine. Do
you have the ability to write packs on another machine/OS, and the ability to
get a Unix file system onto that system? Failing that, I'm in the process of
getting VTServer working to transfer V6 over a serial line to a blank machine
(my situation) - I got distracted before I got 100% finished, but I have it
all scoped out, and can get it done in a couple of hours from where I am now.

Noel

Re: Reverse-engineering WD1000, WD1001 hard disk controllers

[Eric Smith]

I've put my work in progress on reverse-engineering the original WD1000
firmware on github:

https://github.com/brouhaha/wd100x

I use my own assembler syntax output by my previously mentioned s8x30x
disassembler, so at the present there is no assembler for it. I expect to
have an assembler in the not-too-distant future.

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[william degnan]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Jerry Weiss  wrote:

>
> > On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all --
> >>
> >> I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started
> working
> >> on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a
> >> lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now).
> >>
> >> My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but I'm
> >> looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit register)
> to
> >> complete the set.  I have other DEC stuff for trade, drop me a line...
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Josh
> >>
> >
> > Just curious, are you aware whether these two are required to boot a RL02
> > disk or certain versions of RT-11?  I have been experiencing
> difficulties,
> > I only have the m737 iinstalled in my system.
> > Bill
>
>
> RT11 will run w/o an LTC.
>
> TTBOMR the stack limit register is not need for Single Job and the
> other RT11 OS variants.  However a  program could overwrite the vector area
> and cause an ungraceful shutdown.  Make sure the jumpers on the KD11-A
> are set
> correctly for this configuration.
>
> Using an RL02 to boot RT11 should be okay as well.
>
> Jerry
> j...@ieee.org
>
>
>
>
Not exactly what TTBOMR is but I can say that given zero luck booting RT-11
from an RL02 on my 11/40 my next move is to emulate a TU58 drive on a 2nd
serial card and run XXDP.I can run BASIC with no problem, but it seems
like my known working (elsewhere) M7762 RT11 controller card does not wake
up when called by the bootstrap 9312 ROM, etc.

b

Re: Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

[jim stephens]

On 11/21/2016 2:17 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:

Perhaps the ALU is only present on late model machines?

-- Charles
If it were a GE645 strapped for running Multics, very possibly, and 
undocumented.  The builtin special purpose abacus was used on some early 
models.

Re: Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

[Charles Anthony]

> I was looking here:
>
> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/360/
> fe/2020/Z33-1021-0_2020_Processing_Unit_FETOM_May68.pdf
>
> (pdf) pages 45, 46 describe the ALU
>
>
I note that the cover page says: "(Machines with serial no. 50,000 and
above)."

Perhaps the ALU is only present on late model machines?

-- Charles

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[Jerry Weiss]

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, william degnan  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all --
>> 
>> I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started working
>> on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a
>> lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now).
>> 
>> My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but I'm
>> looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit register) to
>> complete the set.  I have other DEC stuff for trade, drop me a line...
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Josh
>> 
> 
> Just curious, are you aware whether these two are required to boot a RL02
> disk or certain versions of RT-11?  I have been experiencing difficulties,
> I only have the m737 iinstalled in my system.
> Bill


RT11 will run w/o an LTC.  

TTBOMR the stack limit register is not need for Single Job and the
other RT11 OS variants.  However a  program could overwrite the vector area
and cause an ungraceful shutdown.  Make sure the jumpers on the KD11-A are 
set
correctly for this configuration.

Using an RL02 to boot RT11 should be okay as well. 

Jerry 
j...@ieee.org

Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[william degnan]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:

> Hi all --
>
> I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started working
> on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a
> lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now).
>
> My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but I'm
> looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit register) to
> complete the set.  I have other DEC stuff for trade, drop me a line...
>
> Thanks!
> Josh
>

Just curious, are you aware whether these two are required to boot a RL02
disk or certain versions of RT-11?  I have been experiencing difficulties,
I only have the m737 iinstalled in my system.
Bill

ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

[Josh Dersch]

Hi all --

I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started working
on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a
lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now).

My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but I'm
looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit register) to
complete the set.  I have other DEC stuff for trade, drop me a line...

Thanks!
Josh

Re: A Multibus board just sold for over $2000

[Mattis Lind]

2016-11-21 5:15 GMT+01:00 George Rachor :

> Time to look at my Inventory (grin).  Never had any 432 stuff.
>
> George Rachor
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> geo...@rachors.com
>
> > On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Glen Slick  wrote:
> >
> >> On Nov 8, 2016 6:43 PM, "Al Kossow"  wrote:
> >>
> >> well, not just ANY Multibus board
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/262697366358
> >
> > As a follow on two bare 432/100 just sold for $1700
> >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262714109154
>


I have one board like this but is marked 432/05 instead of 432/100. But it
appears to be very similar. I am little bit curious why it has a different
name.

http://www.datormuseum.se/computers/others/intel-iapx432

/Mattis

Re: DNIX and ABCenix install media disk images.

[Al Kossow]

has the firmware been dumped from this?

On 11/21/16 6:54 AM, Anders Sandahl wrote:
> 
>>
>> On 11/18/16 12:02 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
>>> This is great! Thanks Mattis, Jonas and Al.
>>>
>>> Somewhere I have an early DNIX system image from a development machine.
>>> I don't know if that is interesting to put on bitsavers as well?
>>>
>> yes, I think so
>>
> 
> And I have documentation and software to the Luxor ABC1600 as well.
> 
> Temporary link: http://blue.abc80.net/archive/luxor/ABC1600/
> 
> Most of it is in Swedish though.
> 
> /Anders

Re: DNIX and ABCenix install media disk images.

[Anders Sandahl]

On 11/18/16 12:02 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:

This is great! Thanks Mattis, Jonas and Al.

Somewhere I have an early DNIX system image from a development machine.
I don't know if that is interesting to put on bitsavers as well?


yes, I think so



And I have documentation and software to the Luxor ABC1600 as well.

Temporary link: http://blue.abc80.net/archive/luxor/ABC1600/

Most of it is in Swedish though.

/Anders

Re: for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

[Liam Proven]

On 21 November 2016 at 15:24, MG  wrote:
> My apologies for (possibly) double-posting, because the thread didn't show
> up in my Gmail account (for whatever reason).


Gmail tends to suppress display of your own posts to mailing lists,
unless or until they get comments/replies.

It's annoying.

It also always breaks threads if someone changes the subject line.

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Re: for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

[MG]

My apologies for (possibly) double-posting, because the thread didn't 
show up in my Gmail account (for whatever reason).


 - MG

for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

[MG]

The following is for sale, or trade possibly.  (I've tried to send this 
earlier, but it didn't appear in the list, so this is my second try to 
post this...)


Most of the listed items I've used together with SGI IRIX and 
HP/Compaq/DEC OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX systems and served me very 
well.


I need to sell this by the end of the month (Nov-2016), else I'll have 
to potentially scrap a considerable bunch of it.


I probably forgot to mention a number of things and perhaps I made a few 
mistakes here and there.  I'll try to update (and if needed, correct) 
this list with follow-up posts.  For now, this is the list of items:



-SGI systems, e.g. MIPS R5000 and R5200 processor equipped O2s 
notably, perhaps also a teal Indigo² with 250-MHz R4400, at least 256 
Mbytes (also up to 1 Gbyte available) of RAM, various types of CPUs 
available, along with various other options in terms of disks, video 
I/O, etc. (ask me)--> suggestion: if you don't care for IRIX, an O2 
would still make an excellent X terminal to any e.g. other system, too, 
as they don't consume a lot of power and they're wonderfully small;


-SGI parts, like an SGI Tezro dual-processor 700-MHz R16000 
system board and an SGI DMediaPro DM10 IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card plus 
cable and manual;


-DEC Multia/UDB VX40B, maximized, with 166-MHz LCA4/21066 
processor, the maximum amount of RAM (256 Mbytes), large 73.4-Gbyte 2½" 
SCSI HDD (with Tru64 UNIX V5.1B[-5?] optionally pre-installed, OpenVMS 
V7.2 also works on it, the original vertical stand and documents are 
present, too), Ensoniq AudioPCI (16-bit 48-KHz) audio card, replacement 
NVRAM/TOY back-up battery, experimental SRM console, PCI audio card and 
custom-shoehorned, etc.;


-various older/non-x86 or compatible computer (besides earlier 
mentioned SGI, e.g. DEC, Compaq and HP) bits & parts, think of FireWire 
(e.g. IEEE-1394a), audio, etc. cards, cables and such ... included are 
things like an AlphaServer DS15-compatible PCI audio card, HP IEEE-1394a 
FireWire PCI card (rare, should work in some HP Integrity systems) and 
more (ask me for details);


-Exar/Neterion/S2io 10-Gbit fiber-optical (10GBASE-SR) PCI-X 
Ethernet NICs including transceivers, besides x86/-64 also OpenVMS and 
IRIX compatible (and tried/used in various systems, including HP 
rx2600s, rx2620s and a DS15 and also an SGI Tezro), LC FC cables 
optionally available, too;


-Mellanox 40-Gbit InfiniBand PCI-E adapters (3 total), optional 
copper and fiber-optical cables, in various lengths, are also available;


-various (e.g. HP) HBAs, notably SCSI (e.g. Ultra160 and 
Ultra320) and FC (e.g. 2-Gbit and 4-Gbit), for PCI/-X or PCI-E, many 
PCI/-X cards also compatible with IRIX and even OpenVMS, some include 
the HP-branded "combo" types, providing both dual-channel FC (HBA) and 
Ethernet (NIC);


-various optical/tape drives and media (e.g. DVD-RAM, various 
data & cleaning tapes, of which many brand new), DDS/DAT of many types 
(e.g. DDS-2/DAT12, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-4/DAT40 and DDS-5/DAT72) Ultrium 
(mostly LTO-1 and LTO-3), mostly of brands like HP (notably), Quantum 
and Sony... to summarize several:

-- HP Ultrium LTO-3 SCSI half-height tape drives
-- Quantum Ultrium LTO-1 SCSI full-height tape drive
-- various Ultrium LTO-3, -2 and -1 cleaning and data cartridge 
tapes (mostly HP-branded)
-- various (HP and Sony-branded) DDS-4/DAT40 tape drives, also 
one DDS-5/DAT72 drive, all with
-- various DDS-5/DAT72, DDS-4/DAT40, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-2/DAT12 
and DDS-1/DAT8 tapes;


-various DVD-RAM discs, both with and without the plastic caddies;

-various HP, AXUS and Ciprico brand Ultra320 SCSI/S-ATA-bridged 
& 2-Gbit or 4-Gbit FC external enclosures, for HDDs (optionally 
including large capacity HDDs, also hardware RAID functionality 
depending per enclosure), 5¼" devices and more (these can be tricky to 
ship, but not impossible), to summarize some of it:
-- AXUS Demon SA-16U4P Ultra320 SCSI<=>S-ATA RAID storage 
enclosure, including 16 * 1-Tbyte S-ATA HDDs and spares --> advantages: 
relative low power consumption and triple-redundant power
-- Ciprico/Huge Systems MediaVault 4-Gbit FC/FC-AL RAID disk 
array, including transceivers, 10 * 250-Gbyte P-ATA HDDs plus one or 
more spare HDDs--> advantages: low power consumption and rather silent
-- HP StorageWorks M5313A FC/FC-AL 2-Gbit (JBOD) disk array, 
including transceivers and 14 * 146.8-Gbyte FC HDDs and one or two spare 
HDDs, too--> note: perhaps not useful for OpenVMS users as-is, as 
JBOD and FC-AL are a no-go, but it can be used in a larger SAN setup;


-various types of printed documents/documentation (various 
manuals and reference guides, from e.g. SGI and Intel);


-APC Smart-UPS 3000 XLM (heavy-duty, 3000VA capacity) UPS 
back-up battery aggregate power system, plus special APC RJ-45 USB 

for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

[MG]

The following is for sale, or trade possibly.  (I've tried to send this
earlier, but it didn't appear in the list, so this is my second try to post
htis...)

Most of the listed items I've used together with SGI IRIX and HP/Compaq/DEC
OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX systems and served me very well.

I need to sell this by the end of the month (Nov-2016), else I'll have to
potentially scrap a considerable bunch of it.

I probably forgot to mention a number of things and perhaps I made a few
mistakes here and there.  I'll try to update (and if needed, correct) this
list with follow-up posts.  For now, this is the list of items:


-SGI systems, e.g. MIPS R5000 and R5200 processor equipped O2s
notably, perhaps also a teal Indigo² with 250-MHz R4400, at least 256
Mbytes (also up to 1 Gbyte available) of RAM, various types of CPUs
available, along with various other options in terms of disks, video I/O,
etc. (ask me)--> suggestion: if you don't care for IRIX, an O2 would
still make an excellent X terminal to any e.g. other system, too, as they
don't consume a lot of power and they're wonderfully small;

-SGI parts, like an SGI Tezro dual-processor 700-MHz R16000 system
board and an SGI DMediaPro DM10 IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card plus cable and
manual;

-DEC Multia/UDB VX40B, maximized, with 166-MHz LCA4/21066
processor, the maximum amount of RAM (256 Mbytes), large 73.4-Gbyte 2½"
SCSI HDD (with Tru64 UNIX V5.1B[-5?] optionally pre-installed, OpenVMS V7.2
also works on it, the original vertical stand and documents are present,
too), Ensoniq AudioPCI (16-bit 48-KHz) audio card, replacement NVRAM/TOY
back-up battery, experimental SRM console, PCI audio card and
custom-shoehorned, etc.;

-various older/non-x86 or compatible computer (besides earlier
mentioned SGI, e.g. DEC, Compaq and HP) bits & parts, think of FireWire
(e.g. IEEE-1394a), audio, etc. cards, cables and such ... included are
things like an AlphaServer DS15-compatible PCI audio card, HP IEEE-1394a
FireWire PCI card (rare, should work in some HP Integrity systems) and more
(ask me for details);

-Exar/Neterion/S2io 10-Gbit fiber-optical (10GBASE-SR) PCI-X
Ethernet NICs including transceivers, besides x86/-64 also OpenVMS and IRIX
compatible (and tried/used in various systems, including HP rx2600s,
rx2620s and a DS15 and also an SGI Tezro), LC FC cables optionally
available, too;

-Mellanox 40-Gbit InfiniBand PCI-E adapters (3 total), optional
copper and fiber-optical cables, in various lengths, are also available;

-various (e.g. HP) HBAs, notably SCSI (e.g. Ultra160 and Ultra320)
and FC (e.g. 2-Gbit and 4-Gbit), for PCI/-X or PCI-E, many PCI/-X cards
also compatible with IRIX and even OpenVMS, some include the HP-branded
"combo" types, providing both dual-channel FC (HBA) and Ethernet (NIC);

-various optical/tape drives and media (e.g. DVD-RAM, various data
& cleaning tapes, of which many brand new), DDS/DAT of many types (e.g.
DDS-2/DAT12, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-4/DAT40 and DDS-5/DAT72) Ultrium (mostly
LTO-1 and LTO-3), mostly of brands like HP (notably), Quantum and Sony...
to summarize several:
-- HP Ultrium LTO-3 SCSI half-height tape drives
-- Quantum Ultrium LTO-1 SCSI full-height tape drive
-- various Ultrium LTO-3, -2 and -1 cleaning and data cartridge
tapes (mostly HP-branded)
-- various (HP and Sony-branded) DDS-4/DAT40 tape drives, also one
DDS-5/DAT72 drive, all with
-- various DDS-5/DAT72, DDS-4/DAT40, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-2/DAT12 and
DDS-1/DAT8 tapes;

-various DVD-RAM discs, both with and without the plastic caddies;

-various HP, AXUS and Ciprico brand Ultra320 SCSI/S-ATA-bridged &
2-Gbit or 4-Gbit FC external enclosures, for HDDs (optionally including
large capacity HDDs, also hardware RAID functionality depending per
enclosure), 5¼" devices and more (these can be tricky to ship, but not
impossible), to summarize some of it:
-- AXUS Demon SA-16U4P Ultra320 SCSI<=>S-ATA RAID storage
enclosure, including 16 * 1-Tbyte S-ATA HDDs and spares--> advantages:
relative low power consumption and triple-redundant power
-- Ciprico/Huge Systems MediaVault 4-Gbit FC/FC-AL RAID disk array,
including transceivers, 10 * 250-Gbyte P-ATA HDDs plus one or more spare
HDDs--> advantages: low power consumption and rather silent
-- HP StorageWorks M5313A FC/FC-AL 2-Gbit (JBOD) disk array,
including transceivers and 14 * 146.8-Gbyte FC HDDs and one or two spare
HDDs, too--> note: perhaps not useful for OpenVMS users as-is, as JBOD
and FC-AL are a no-go, but it can be used in a larger SAN setup;

-various types of printed documents/documentation (various manuals
and reference guides, from e.g. SGI and Intel);

-APC Smart-UPS 3000 XLM (heavy-duty, 3000VA capacity) UPS back-up
battery aggregate power system, plus special APC RJ-45 USB cable (the whole
unit is perhaps hard to ship, but not impossible