Re: I hate the new mail system

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Jules Richardson wrote:
Thanks to both of you. I came back to cctalk after not checking it for a few 
days, and wondered what the %$#^ was going on, with every message showing 
with cctalk as the "from" field.


I'm another one who dislikes the new system. It would be much better if 
the Reply-To field did *not* contain the sender's email address because 
when I reply to a message, I use the Reply-To field (of course) and have 
to delete the extra line because I want to reply to the list and *not* 
privately to the sender. So either the sender's address should be in the 
From field or in a new header field, e.g. List-Original-Sender or 

something like that.
For now I have set up a procmail rule to strip the "via cctalk" from the 

From field because this is ugly and redundant.


Christian

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If $s are needed, I would toss a few in to have someone save the 11/60 ..
many fond memories of S/N #6

Hope someone gets a hold of this guy

-pete



On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Systems Glitch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email
>
> Whoops, ended up in the spam folder! No, I haven't heard back either. I
> sent a follow-up and CCed the second address in his email. Provided my
> office phone number, no reply or calls.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>

RE: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Dan Cohoe via cctalk]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Steven Maresca 
via cctalk
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:59 AM
To: Noel Chiappa; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < 
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up?
>

I'll put my hand up on this.  

Much of the trove had already gone to scrap before this group got wind of it.  
And for a lot of it that was probably the right thing though it pains me to say 
that.  The house cleaners had been there before I contacted the owner 
immediately after the message appeared on the list.
The S/32 all went to scrap as it had been a possum home for a number of years, 
the 11/60 cabinets were scrapped a few days prior to the list contact and the 
11/34 had also been severely damaged by animals while being stored in a garage 
for approximately 10 years.  The 11/60 processor was stored in better 
conditions and consists of two BA11 style boxes. 

There was a well preserved Flexowriter recovered in pieces, but likely 
complete, and a bunch of ADM3a terminals.   I also brought home a very, very 
rough TU 55. Unfortunately another, possibly a TU 56, had been scrapped a few 
days earlier as well. 
The owner, Greg, was one of the nicer people I have met over the years.  He 
lives near the MSU surplus sale site and was a good customer there.

We need a better way to be recognized as a place to post situations like this 
earlier in people's decision process on how to clear out a house.

BTW, I should also report on the recovery of the Triad system early in January. 
 Will Donzelli and I came back from that location with the Triad rack, a 
re-badged Interdata system (8-32) and a lot of interesting terminals as well as 
a few CDC 9726H cartridge drives.  We may have a system for this, but have not 
had time to investigate.

Regards, Dan

Re: Clock program for COSMAC Elf microcomputer with PIXIE graphics

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:27 AM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> I've written a clock program to run on an unexpanded Elf with PIXIE
> graphics
>

A few seconds of video of it running on a Netronics Elf II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKCsw_7wpdw

Re: Binary keypad front panel

[John Wilson via cctalk]

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 03:11:21PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote:
>Use a TELEPHONE keypad 0-7 OCTAL 8 and 9 binary. :)

I like it!  Or else make them dit and dah (like on a Morse keyer) so you
can have alphanumeric entry?  Eons ago a friend of mine wanted to design
an audio protocol (e.g. using a Votrax SC-01 and an ADC), figuring that the
word "ZERO!" has a lot more of a high-frequency component so it wouldn't
take much processing (this was in 8-bit days) to distinguish it from "ONE!".
The snag was that he wanted to add "WHAT?" as an error-correction feature.

John Wilson
D Bit

Re: Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III - IDE drives?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

IIRC, at least some models did support a 500MB drive.
(1023 Cylinders, 15 heads, more then 17 sectors per track)

If you can find the Compaq EGA board, it will work with the internal 
monitor, and provide almost usable Windoze.

(Look for the connector mid-board)
There was also an ATI EGA card (with add-on) for Compaq.
Or, you could add a VGA, as a second video card.
Windoze would work with CGA, but 640x200 was clunky.

For Windoze 3.10 or 3.11, you need some memory above 1MB. (A20)
(Windoze 3.00 did not need memory above 1MB, and could un on 8088)


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

Cekit 8085 micro trainer

[Jules Richardson via cctalk]

I picked up a Cekit 8085 microprocessor trainer last weekend, model MT-01. 
Google seems to be of no help - has anyone else here got one of these? 
There's nothing really specific that I wanted to know, but it's just odd 
that there seems to be no info out there at all about it.


Some of the writing on the PCBs is in Spanish, and it says on the back that 
it was made by Cekit for EKI - but throwing that into the Google pot 
doesn't appear to be of any help.


I'm not even sure how old it is. The CPU, I/O chip and some of the logic is 
dated 1983/84, but then there are a handful of Goldstar 74LSxx ICs with 
90xx codes on them. It may be that Goldstar just didn't follow date code 
conventions, or it's quite possible that it really is that recent (and some 
of the ICs just came from much older stock).


cheers

Jules

Re: Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III - IDE drives?

[Jules Richardson via cctalk]

On 03/03/2017 03:08 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:

Just checking here, as someone told me that this is the case, but do the
Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III take stock 40-pin IDE hard drives? I
just wanted to make sure that they weren't expecting something that might
be a bit non-standard before I go trying to find modern replacements for
a pair of failing disks.


I think so, but I also think that Compaq's IDE was before it was completely
standardized, so there might be some glitches.


Yes, that's my concern. I thought it may even be expecting something like 
XTA, but I suppose that doesn't really make sense given the '286 or '386 
CPU (I only picked up the Portable III last weekend and I'm not sure which 
CPU it has - I believe that the later ones had the '386)



1) If you are going period OS, get Compaq MS-DOS V3.31.  Anything prior to
that is limited to 32MB per partition.


Well, I suspect 32MB will be plenty :-)

I don't think I've ever actually tried putting a large-capacity IDE disk 
into a machine which was designed for something much smaller (I've always 
had a stash of period drives kicking around in case of failure). I'm not 
sure if it all gets translated into a linear address somewhere between 
system and drive anyway[1], so I can pretty much pick any BIOS drive type 
and expect it to just work (obviously at massively-reduced capacity!), or 
if the drive really is addressed via CHS and so I need to pick type[2] 
carefully (or look into LLF).


[1] And I know that I used to know the answer to things like that, but it 
all fell out of my head years ago :-(


[2] Maybe picking something that's "smaller in all dimensions" works, 
though? It would waste some enormous number of sectors on each track, but 
that's not really an issue if it works!



2) You may want to use a "disk manager overlay" to be able to use specs
other than the BIOS ones:
http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/compaq3.html


Aha, some useful info there - thanks!

cheers,

Jules

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Josh Dersch via cctalk]

FWIW, the LCM+L inquired and heard back earlier this week, apparently the
gear has been claimed.  Hopefully that's true...

- Josh


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Systems Glitch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email
>
> Whoops, ended up in the spam folder! No, I haven't heard back either. I
> sent a follow-up and CCed the second address in his email. Provided my
> office phone number, no reply or calls.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>

Re: Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III - IDE drives?

[allison via cctalk]

On 03/03/2017 03:52 PM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
>
> Just checking here, as someone told me that this is the case, but do
> the Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III take stock 40-pin IDE hard
> drives? I just wanted to make sure that they weren't expecting
> something that might be a bit non-standard before I go trying to find
> modern replacements for a pair of failing disks.
>
> Assuming that an enormous modern(ish) drive is OK, are there any other
> gotchas involved in configuration and formatting? Obviously I don't
> need a partition bigger than a few tens of MB, but perhaps there are
> things to keep in mind when fitting a drive that's most likely to be
> getting on for a thousand times the capacity of the original.
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
>
>
>
>
One caveat...  Max drive size was 500mb.  You can use larger but the
first partition must be 500mb and the second is only
usable to the limits of the OS version.  For example the hardware (BIOS)
will boot the OS in the first 500mb partition and
of the OS such as Win3.11 can handle up to only 500mb if memory serves
but there can be many partitions.

The other thing is the BIOS much be able to setup for the drive
geometry, some only have a predefined list.

That machine was seen with drives in the up to 340 or 420mb scale over
time and larger than 40mb was not uncommon.
If you can find a working ST3660A (500mb) that might be a good one to go
with.

I'd max the drive at 1Gb.  Larger may not work.

Allison

Re: Binary keypad front panel

[ben via cctalk]

On 3/3/2017 12:58 PM, John Wilson via cctalk wrote:

I made this as a joke, but also as a simple test device for a NatInst
PCI-DIO-96 GPIO card I was writing a driver for:

https://www.facebook.com/john.m.b.wilson/videos/10212562451077947/

It occurred to me that lots of old machines had binary front panels
(switches and lights) and lots of machines had keypad front panels (octal
or hex, with 7-segment LEDs), but I'd never seen a binary keypad front
panel.  Plus I wanted to experiment with Cherry MX keyswitches, and try out
wasdkeyboards's custom keycaps (but they're $7/ea so I didn't want to try
anything too big the first time).  That plus two 74LS132s, four 74LS240s,
and two 74LS273s, discrete stuff and cabling, and a PCI-DIO-96 that was
$25 on eBay, and it works.

"set dr dio96:" in the DOS and stand-alone versions of E11 V7.3 makes it
(or anyone else's homemade doohicky) appear at 777570 as usual (or you can
add "set dr r0" to get the R0-during-WAIT display like on a PDP-11/70 --
whatever your OS's NULJOB uses).  I'd give Gerbers to anyone who cares
but really it's just a dumb joke.  Fun one though.

John Wilson
D Bit



Use a TELEPHONE keypad 0-7 OCTAL 8 and 9 binary. :)

Re: Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III - IDE drives?

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 3/3/2017 1:08 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
Just checking here, as someone told me that this is the case, but do 
the Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III take stock 40-pin IDE hard 
drives? I just wanted to make sure that they weren't expecting 
something that might be a bit non-standard before I go trying to find 
modern replacements for a pair of failing disks.


I think so, but I also think that Compaq's IDE was before it was 
completely standardized, so there might be some glitches.



The bios has a table that you can dump out as usual, which is unique to 
the Compaq portable 3.  Other than that and having to modify the table 
to accommodate the new drive geometry, I had no problem.  It was 
possible to run 200mb drives, as all of min have such on them.
Assuming that an enormous modern(ish) drive is OK, are there any 
other gotchas involved in configuration and formatting? Obviously I 
don't need a partition bigger than a few tens of MB, but perhaps 
there are things to keep in mind when fitting a drive that's most 
likely to be getting on for a thousand times the capacity of the 
original.


1) If you are going period OS, get Compaq MS-DOS V3.31.  Anything 
prior to that is limited to 32MB per partition.


2) You may want to use a "disk manager overlay" to be able to use 
specs other than the BIOS ones:

http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/compaq3.htm
I ran Pick and other systems other than DOS and modified the roms to 
have new geometry.  The entries up to #13 match the IBM.


I think #4 and #20, IIRC are the common ones you see as evidenced by a 
sticker on the case behind the plasma display.


The Roms are simple to modify, if you know that they are Even / Odd for 
a 16 bit total width.  you will have to figure out a new checksum and 
modify the last byte of the rom to come up 0.  Again, if i recall you 
need to make the overall sum come up = 0.


I always read the rom from high memory into ram and wrote a simple loop 
to add up the checksum in AL.  The play with the last byte till you get 
it back to 0.


I ran Pick R83 on all of mine, with an 8way and streaming tape card in 
the expansion bay.  A very nifty 286 or 386 8 user system for demos back 
in the days


thanks
jim

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Systems Glitch via cctalk]

> Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email

Whoops, ended up in the spam folder! No, I haven't heard back either. I sent a 
follow-up and CCed the second address in his email. Provided my office phone 
number, no reply or calls.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III - IDE drives?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
Just checking here, as someone told me that this is the case, but do the 
Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III take stock 40-pin IDE hard drives? I 
just wanted to make sure that they weren't expecting something that might be 
a bit non-standard before I go trying to find modern replacements for a pair 
of failing disks.


I think so, but I also think that Compaq's IDE was before it was 
completely standardized, so there might be some glitches.



Assuming that an enormous modern(ish) drive is OK, are there any other 
gotchas involved in configuration and formatting? Obviously I don't need a 
partition bigger than a few tens of MB, but perhaps there are things to keep 
in mind when fitting a drive that's most likely to be getting on for a 
thousand times the capacity of the original.


1) If you are going period OS, get Compaq MS-DOS V3.31.  Anything prior 
to that is limited to 32MB per partition.


2) You may want to use a "disk manager overlay" to be able to use specs 
other than the BIOS ones:

http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/compaq3.html

Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III - IDE drives?

[Jules Richardson via cctalk]

Just checking here, as someone told me that this is the case, but do the 
Compaq Portable 286 and Portable III take stock 40-pin IDE hard drives? I 
just wanted to make sure that they weren't expecting something that might 
be a bit non-standard before I go trying to find modern replacements for a 
pair of failing disks.


Assuming that an enormous modern(ish) drive is OK, are there any other 
gotchas involved in configuration and formatting? Obviously I don't need a 
partition bigger than a few tens of MB, but perhaps there are things to 
keep in mind when fitting a drive that's most likely to be getting on for a 
thousand times the capacity of the original.


cheers

Jules

Re: Binary keypad front panel

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

On Mar 3, 2017 12:58 PM, "John Wilson via cctalk" 
wrote:
> It occurred to me that lots of old machines had binary front panels
> (switches and lights) and lots of machines had keypad front panels (octal
> or hex, with 7-segment LEDs), but I'd never seen a binary keypad front
> panel.

It wasn't a computer, but the first commercial frequency-synthesized
scanning receiver, the Tennellec Memoryscan, circa 1974, used a binary
keypad. It came with a fat book listing a 16-bit binary code for each
frequency the scanner could receive. You could program up to 16 such codes
into the scanner.

My grandfather bought one for my grandmother when I was 10 years old, and I
was put in charge of programming in the codes for the frequencies my
grandmother selected. Since I already new binary, I worked out formulas for
the codes so that I wouldn't have to use the book. That way I could program
the scanner in only ten times the time.

It did come in handy some years later when my grandmother wanted to changes
the frequencies, but the code book had been lost.

Re: I hate the new mail system

[Jules Richardson via cctalk]

On 02/28/2017 07:43 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 02/28/2017 05:21 PM, Jon Auringer wrote:


Chuck,

I had the same display issue. Uncheck "Show only display name for
people in my address book" under Tools-Options-Display-Advanced.


Jon,

Thanks for the hint!  I'm using the Linux version of Thunderbird, so the
setting isn't under "Tools"; it took me a bit of searching to find it.
In the *nix version, it appears to be under Edit->Preferences->Display.


Thanks to both of you. I came back to cctalk after not checking it for a 
few days, and wondered what the %$#^ was going on, with every message 
showing with cctalk as the "from" field.


It is indeed under edit/preferences/display on my version, too. I'm not 
sure why it's not consistent with the non-Linux versions, I would have 
thought a consistent UI across all platforms was a Good Thing.


cheers

Jules

Binary keypad front panel

[John Wilson via cctalk]

I made this as a joke, but also as a simple test device for a NatInst
PCI-DIO-96 GPIO card I was writing a driver for:

https://www.facebook.com/john.m.b.wilson/videos/10212562451077947/

It occurred to me that lots of old machines had binary front panels
(switches and lights) and lots of machines had keypad front panels (octal
or hex, with 7-segment LEDs), but I'd never seen a binary keypad front
panel.  Plus I wanted to experiment with Cherry MX keyswitches, and try out
wasdkeyboards's custom keycaps (but they're $7/ea so I didn't want to try
anything too big the first time).  That plus two 74LS132s, four 74LS240s,
and two 74LS273s, discrete stuff and cabling, and a PCI-DIO-96 that was
$25 on eBay, and it works.

"set dr dio96:" in the DOS and stand-alone versions of E11 V7.3 makes it
(or anyone else's homemade doohicky) appear at 777570 as usual (or you can
add "set dr r0" to get the R0-during-WAIT display like on a PDP-11/70 --
whatever your OS's NULJOB uses).  I'd give Gerbers to anyone who cares
but really it's just a dumb joke.  Fun one though.

John Wilson
D Bit

RE: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

[Henk Gooijen via cctalk]

Van: E. Groenenberg
Verzonden: vrijdag 3 maart 2017 14:30
Aan: Henk Gooijen; General Discussion: 
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Onderwerp: RE: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

Henk,

Your '' high speed lineprinter is most likely a Dataproducts
Model 2230 (a.k.a Dec LP05).

Regards,

Ed
--
Ik email, dus ik besta.
BTC : 1Lk6141nvDKPxtCa5erfFyovsoJN2LKqNJ

Thanks!
I had no information at all, so this is a good start!
A quick google search turned up one picture that matches the printer,
and the web page says that the LP05 was indeed made by Dataproducts.
More google fu later 

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Steven Maresca via cctalk]

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up?
>
> I sent the person an email, never heard back.
>
> Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email
> - I
> sent them an email, asking if they'd heard back, never got an answer from
> them
> either.
>
> Noel
>
Likewise, I have not heard back either.

Steve

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up?

I sent the person an email, never heard back.

Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email - I
sent them an email, asking if they'd heard back, never got an answer from them
either.

Noel

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[A Unhealthy Dosage of Dank Memes via cctalk]

Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up? There is a *very* small change 
I would be able to if nobody else can or will (I would prefer not to). It would 
pain me to see all this stuff go to scrap.

Thanks

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 5:42 AM, LJW cctech via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Via Mike Ross, but contact Greg with any questions!
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Greg Bebermeyer" 
> Date: Feb 27, 2017 4:44 AM
> Subject: IBM System/32 - web response
> To: 
> Cc:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Maybe this is no longer relevant since I can't tell from the web page how 
> recent the post is... I am selling my house and in the back of the garage is 
> a complete System/32 that was working when I stuck it there and covered it. 
> Much other stuff is in front of it so I haven't seen it in a while. It's free 
> for the taking to anyone willing to come to East Lansing, Michigan and pick 
> it up. If you aren't interested then it'll just go to the scrappers because I 
> need to get the place ready for inspection. The junk haulers should uncover 
> it in a day or two at which point I could take pictures.
> 
> I also have a PDP-11/60, if you know of anyone interested. Same deal - free, 
> come pick it up. The 11/60 main box has been stored in a dry basement along 
> with two RL01 disk drives (in free standing cabinets, not rack mounted) along 
> with a box of flat interconnect cables. It was used in a cardiac unit to run 
> heart monitors and has an extra card cage full of interface cards. Also 
> there's 3 PDP-11/34s in a rack in the garage as well. All this stuff has to 
> go in about a week to 10 days, unless arrangements/promises are made and kept.
> 
> If you're interested in any of this stuff, or could refer me to someone who 
> might be, I would love for this stuff to go to a good home. Yup, I started 
> with FORTRAN and 80-column punch cards. Thanks.
> 
> My best,
> -Greg Bebermeyer
> beber...@gmail.com
> greg.beberme...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -- 
> Lawrence Wilkinson lawre...@ljw.me.uk
> The IBM 360/30 page   http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360

Re: Able board on eBay

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> It's one part of a DMAX/16.

Oooh, good catch. I hadn't looked carefully at those faint images, I was just
looking at the brochure which had the separate images.

> Not nearly as cool as an Enable :).

Yes; the ENABLE was pretty clever: it used an MUD backplane as an EUB
backplane, to hold the ENABLE and stock EUB memory cards; both the CPU _and_
DMA devices were on the incoming UNIBUS, and the ENABLE could tell whether a
read-write cycle was from the CPU, or a DMA device (if you look at the UNIBUS
spec, there's just enough to do that, even without being able to see NPG), and
routed it through the appropriate mapping, depending.

   Noel

Re: Full immersion emulation

[Mark Linimon via cctalk]

On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 08:11:34AM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> It hardly took any time at all to get those to the point where it would
> accept, "LET THERE BE LIGHT"

"I'll ... have to think about it."

mcl

Re: Full immersion emulation

[Liam Proven via cctalk]

On 2 March 2017 at 17:11, Fred Cisin via cctalk  wrote:
> And, it will reach a level of reliability to actually be usable, "in a few
> more years".  "next year in jerusalem!"

I haven't tried either the Google or Amazon offerings. I have tried to
teach my elderly mother to use Siri and Google speech recognition on
her iPad, but unsuccessfully.

I have played with Cortana and it's decent. It is the beginning of
something useful.

But I have, for instance, a blind friend who has an Amazon Echo and he
likes it. It can control his lighting & heating for him, two things
difficult for blind people to do.

He also uses Siri a lot on his iPhone and it too works well for him.
We both find it ironic that an almost-buttonless phone is the most
accessible to blind people, but it is and it works. Now with Siri,
it's better. He just dictates text messages and emails and it can
spell better than he can.

It is not great, but it works, now, today, and it's selling.

> Now, Siri can tell Kripke, "I'm sorry Bawwy, I don't understand 'wecommend a
> westauwant'"

Heh. :¬)


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Re: Able board on eBay

[Josh Dersch via cctalk]

I looked it up a couple of days ago.  It's in a brochure on Bitsavers:

http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/pdf/able/brochures/Able_Computer_Product_Brochures_1982.pdf

See page 12.  It's one part of a DMAX/16.  The same seller had the other
half for sale as well (mislabeled).  Not nearly as cool as an Enable :).

I was bummed I got outbid on the Qniverter the seller had for sale (which
was listed as a "Univerter").

- Josh


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> So there was an odd board from Able up on eBay:
>
>   http://www.ebay.com/itm/311809552775
>
> Anyone know what it was? From the Able product summary it looked a bit
> like an
> Interlink/U or perhaps an Enable - although the detailed chip layout didn't
> look like the illustrations of either. Anyone know?
>
> Also, speaking of the Able ENABLE, I've recently discovered more about it,
> and
> now understand pretty much how it works.
>
> Noel
>

Able board on eBay

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

So there was an odd board from Able up on eBay:

  http://www.ebay.com/itm/311809552775

Anyone know what it was? From the Able product summary it looked a bit like an
Interlink/U or perhaps an Enable - although the detailed chip layout didn't
look like the illustrations of either. Anyone know?

Also, speaking of the Able ENABLE, I've recently discovered more about it, and
now understand pretty much how it works.

Noel

RE: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

[E. Groenenberg via cctalk]

Henk,

Your '' high speed lineprinter is most likely a Dataproducts
Model 2230 (a.k.a Dec LP05).

Regards,

Ed
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RE: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

[Henk Gooijen via cctalk]

Oops, typo ☹   I missed one folder. The correct links are

www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/comm/interface/vsv11/vsv11-info.html
www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/comm/interface/vt30h/vt30h-info.html

While “promoting”, I also added a page for the RP03
www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/disk/rp11-rp03/rp11-rp03.html
It will be some time before pictures of the system and more info will land here.
I am re-organizing my 2250 square feet … but not yet clear how everything
will be placed.


Van: Paul Birkel
Verzonden: vrijdag 3 maart 2017 11:45
Aan: 'Henk Gooijen'
Onderwerp: RE: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

Henk:  In case you haven't noticed, neither of those URLs are yet active
:-<.  To Your Good Health!

-Original Message-
From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Henk
Gooijen via cctech
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 3:58 PM
To: shad; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11


Well, I did scribble a bit about the VT30 and VSV11 on my website .
Check out
www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/comm/vsv11/vsv11-info.html
www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/comm/vt30h/vt30h-info.html


Van: shad via cctech
Verzonden: donderdag 2 maart 2017 19:12
Aan: cct...@classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

Well, it would be a very nice thing to put the hands on a copy of such
manual! :)
Given that I didn't find ANY information on Google about these boards,
except for the bare description in the PDP11 field guide, it would be very
nice to archive a copy on bitsavers too...
If you manage to find something, please let me know
thanks
Andrea


>I've got a photocopied user's manual in this mess somewhere (used for the
"VR:" VT30 emulation in E11).

Clock program for COSMAC Elf microcomputer with PIXIE graphics

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

I've written a clock program to run on an unexpanded Elf with PIXIE
graphics. It proved to be quite a challenge to fit it into 256 bytes, but
I've now got it working, with two bytes of RAM to spare. There are 12-hour
and 24-hour versions. I've released it under the GPL 3.0 license.

The source code is in a github repository:
https://github.com/brouhaha/elf-clock

A text file containing instructions and hexadecimal object code is at:

https://github.com/brouhaha/elf-clock/releases/download/v0.1/elf-clock-v0.1.txt

Re: DEC VT30-H and VTV30-J, was VSV11

[John Wilson via cctalk]

On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 07:12:06PM +0100, shad via cctech wrote:
>Well, it would be a very nice thing to put the hands on a copy of such
>manual! :)
>Given that I didn't find ANY information on Google about these boards,
>except for the bare description in the PDP11 field guide, it would be very
>nice to archive a copy on bitsavers too...
>If you manage to find something, please let me know

You'll be the first to know!  Nothing ever goes away permanently, it just
slips into the strata for a few years.  It'll turn up.  Do you have the
whole unit or just the boards?  It'd be great if you could run it.  I have
a little test program that throws stuff on the screen but it's never been
run on real hardware so it may be a filthy lie.

John Wilson
D Bit

Re: Full immersion emulation

[CuriousMarc via cctalk]

Charles,

Then you are the one that asked for the permission to use the sound of my "Golf 
Ball Madness" Selectric video (shameless plug: https://youtu.be/vOIPN70f_-Id ). 
A) go right ahead and B) turns out I have a high end recording studio 
installation at home. I can record clean high quality samples for you, just 
contact me off list for exactly what you need.

Talking about old computer sounds, for the story, you'll be happy to know that 
the punched card reader sounds used in Hidden Figures are from "our" IBM 1402 
at CHM, recorded from... a cell phone.

Marc

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 11:14 AM, Charles Anthony via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Part of the iconic mainframe experience is the cold room sounds; for early
> Multics installations (and other systems) the sound of the Selectric
> operator's console.
> 
> I/O Selectrics are rare, expensive and unreliable.
> 
> If some good quality audio clips of a Selectric were available, it should
> be possible to jimmy up the console terminal emulator to make the sounds.
> 
> So I am fishing for any existing audio clips with clean sounds, or someone
> with a Selectric that is willing to make some recordings, or a pointer to
> somewhere where all of this has been done already.
> 
> -- Charles