Re: List Problems?

2017-11-08 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 08:31:11PM -0800, Zane Healy wrote:
[...]
> 
> The only reason I saw these two emails is because I’m CC’d on them.
> At least I now know that I can send emails to classiccmp, but I’m
> not getting emails from at this address.  I’m not sure if the
> problem is with my new email provider (Rackspace), or with
> classiccmp.  This is the only mail that I’m aware of not coming
> through.  I’m not on as many email lists as I used to be, but the
> others seem to be working.
> 
> Oddly enough, I’m still getting email at my Aracnet address since
> regaining email access to that account.
> 
> Zane
> 

Try sending email to cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org with subject line
"help" and empty body; see what it tells you - perhaps you can play a
bit with mailman commands.

Perhaps resubscribing will solve the problem?

Other than above, I have no more ideas.

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Regards,
Tomasz Rola

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Re: List Problems?

2017-11-08 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 04:12:57PM -0600, Jay West via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> So no Aaron - better hosting isn't needed. Nor is any donation. I
> just need to find a bunch of roundtuits so I can finish the
> migration. Then it will be stable again. This is a hobby, and life
> does intervene at times. About the only thing I'll ask is if you
> ever meet me in person at an event, buy me a glass of beer and I'll
> be happy.

Man, you certainly deserve a beer.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **


Re: PDP-8 chassis on eBay

2017-11-08 Thread Dave via cctalk
Doh!
I suppose that's what HSPT stands for.  Missed that.
Dave 

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:23 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
 wrote:
 

     > From: Dave

    > I managed to snag the chassis and what I hope is the matching cover.

No, that cover is for a paper-tape reader.

    Noel


   


Re: PDP-8 chassis on eBay

2017-11-08 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Somewhat related: does anyone on the east coast of the US (I'm in NYC) have
a PDP-8/e or equivalent bezel I might try making a silicone mold from? I
know Rob Smallwood had designs to do just this but I have some free time to
spare...

=]

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > From: Dave
>
> > I managed to snag the chassis and what I hope is the matching cover.
>
> No, that cover is for a paper-tape reader.
>
> Noel
>


Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-08 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 11/08/2017 12:04 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:



On 11/7/2017 7:53 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:


They looked like giant purple snowballs.
The droppings destroy the paint on your car, however.  
Irvine is covered with them.  There is another tree with a 
red flower that has the tendril type bloom, I couldn't 
find what they were called.  Same problem with paint.  
Maybe someone here more familiar with tree blooms might know.


Just called them red and purple trees, but did know the 
purple was the Jacaranda.


Would have loved to visit, if you come back out, let me know.
Oh, it was the wedding of my son the Marine, and was a QUITE 
busy time, indeed!  We were only out there for a few days.  
But, if time permits, and we get out there again with more 
time available, then I will likely get in contact with a few 
people.  One of these days, I might actually be allowed to 
retire, and then more time would be available to visit with 
people.


Jon


Re: PDP-8 chassis on eBay

2017-11-08 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Dave

> I managed to snag the chassis and what I hope is the matching cover.

No, that cover is for a paper-tape reader.

Noel


Re: PDP-8 chassis on eBay

2017-11-08 Thread Dave via cctalk
I managed to snag the chassis and what I hope is the matching cover.  I thought 
it looked like an 8/e or 8/f.
When I bought my PDP 8/m, I also picked up 2 extra complete board sets 
(including front panels, and power supplies from the seller's swap/repair 
stock.  The front panels are the 8/f/m versions (with LEDs), as are the 
switching supplies.  I've been looking for a chassis ever since, although I 
suppose I could have adapted a commercial 19" chassis.  Now I need to find a 
backplane (or 2), bezel, and lock.
As a side note, I bought my 8/m from a guy who ran a business setting up 
leather and textile embroidery (cowboy boots, etc.) systems based on DEC PDP/8 
and PDP/11 controllers.  The business was still going as of 3 years ago.  The 
owner was working on a EPROM emulator to simplify programming of a particular 
PDP-11 based controller, which stored the designs in EPROM.  He apparently 
still had some customers running setups in Canada and India based on 8/a 
systems.  He was just getting around to retiring the last of the 8/m based 
systems.  His shop was (hopefully is) a living vintage DEC museum, but for him 
it was simply his work.  Of course a Raspberry Pi could fully replace those 
systems, even running the PDP-11 embroidery design software on SIMH, but 
apparently customers don't like to mess with working systems.
Dave

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 6:50 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk 
 wrote:
 

 On 07/11/2017 15:09, william degnan via cctalk wrote:
> The seller in the past sold an 8i I believe, it's probably an 8i.
> Bill
> 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Dave via cctalk 
> wrote:
> 
>> Can you tell which PDP8 this goes with?  Would an 8/e panel fit?
>> Dave

It's an 8/e (of which I have two, and a nearby friend has three or four 
more, as well as a couple of 8/Ms) chassis.  It takes a big linear PSU 
and two 10-slot Omnibus backplanes.  The 8/F and 8/M (OEM version, 
usually with a very simple turnkey panel) are shorter, take only one 
10-slot Omnibus backplane, and have a completely different switch-mode PSU.

-- 
Pete
Pete Turnbull


   


Re: PDP-8 chassis on eBay

2017-11-08 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk

On 07/11/2017 15:09, william degnan via cctalk wrote:

The seller in the past sold an 8i I believe, it's probably an 8i.
Bill

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Dave via cctalk 
wrote:


Can you tell which PDP8 this goes with?  Would an 8/e panel fit?
Dave


It's an 8/e (of which I have two, and a nearby friend has three or four 
more, as well as a couple of 8/Ms) chassis.  It takes a big linear PSU 
and two 10-slot Omnibus backplanes.  The 8/F and 8/M (OEM version, 
usually with a very simple turnkey panel) are shorter, take only one 
10-slot Omnibus backplane, and have a completely different switch-mode PSU.


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull


Re: HP 9836U processor mystery...

2017-11-08 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Josh Dersch  wrote:
> On 11/6/2017 8:59 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
>

> What BOOTROM version do you have in your machine?  I have 4.0, I'm curious
> if there's a later version.

Mine is 4.0

-tony


RE: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-08 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk


> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian
> Corti via cctalk
> Sent: 08 November 2017 08:56
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK
> 
> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, CuriousMarc wrote:
> > The link below is from the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which
> > seems to have a copy of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for.
> > Is anyone from that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members
> know them?
> > http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-
> Character-
> > Set-Ge
> > neration/
> >
> > Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual?
> 
> I not only have a copy, I have the original of the manual (along with tons
of
> other stuff like microcode listings etc. for the 264x series).
> I will scan it these days and make it online - for free in contrast to the
> Cambridge guys :-)
> 
> Christian

With respect , you can view it in person for the price of admission. They
also say that limited resources mean they have no timescale for this.

In the UK being a small museum is a challenge. Many years ago "the
government" said that any museum that was government supported had to be
free to enter, otherwise their funding would stop. 

As a result, the BIG museums such as the Science Museum became free to enter
and get government funding.

This puts smaller museums in a very difficult situation. They don't get any
funding, non is available, so realistically they have to charge for
admission, which means they have problems competing for footfall.

At least they have made their collection index available so you can see what
they have, and you can go and see it on request. 

Contrast this with The National Museum of Computing (which is not nationally
funded) or the Science Museum Group (which is nationally funded). Both have
large numbers of objects which are not catalogued and/or not available to
see. 

So I know that the Science Museum Group has a set of PDP8 diagnostic tapes,
I have seen and photographed them, but they are not available to view, less
still read...

Dave







Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-08 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, CuriousMarc wrote:

The link below is from the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which seems to
have a copy of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for. Is anyone from
that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members know them?
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-Character-Set-Ge
neration/

Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual?


I not only have a copy, I have the original of the manual (along with tons 
of other stuff like microcode listings etc. for the 264x series).
I will scan it these days and make it online - for free in contrast to 
the Cambridge guys :-)


Christian