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Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
On 05/15/2018 02:38 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: I finally gave up and acquired a PCI based RS/6000 that I’ll install AIX on and have an R/390. :-) I haven’t had the time yet to make any progress on it. Props for the R/390. I've not heard mention of them in quite a while. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> On May 14, 2018, at 11:29 PM, Dave Wadewrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Adam Thornton >> via cctalk >> Sent: 15 May 2018 03:03 >> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org >> Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 >> >> I Frankensteined a P/390 together out of a P/325 server and the PCI P/390 >> card back in the day. >> > > I am told the PCI card is rather choosy about which servers it will run in. > The system came with most of a P330 as well, but no case. It is pretty picky. It did not run in a whitebox PC I had at the time, but the PC Server 325 was close enough to its expected host that it was happy. I would guess that any of the IBM x86 server machines from the right general era would work. That machine now lives at the Living Computer Museum in Seattle, although I do not know if they have it available for use. > > > It’s the RAID card that’s the problem, and it seems to have always been > temperamental. Did you use RAID in your P/325? I don’t think I did. Have you tried just putting a different (OS/2-supported) disk controller in and just not doing RAID? > >> >> I used mine to run VM/CMS and Linux (under VM) quite well. >> > > I was thinking of trying Linux. I assume you ran Debian? Indeed I did, although also SLES. I assume you found my NASPA article on Debian on 390 from 2004? Adam
Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> On May 15, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk> wrote: > > > That’s, in effect, what I did. Whilst there were Microchannel IDE Controllers > I have never seen one. There are no IDE interfaces on the "Planar" so every > thing must be on the MCA bus. > So I bought a BusLogic BT646 SCSI card on E-Bay. I also bought an Adaptec > card as a spare. I think I struck lucky with the BT646. It is a simple > SCSI/2 card, no raid but it does have a BIOS with support for two bootable > drives and a >4GB drive option. > OS/2 has drivers for it so it works out of the box. The OS/2 boot disks find > the drive and install the proper drivers. > To compensate for the slower "narrow" drives I bought a SCSI2SD card that > puts an SD card on the bus. OS/2 just sees it as a up two four drives > depending on how I configure it. At present I have two 4gb drives. The card > in it is 32gb so I can add 2 x 12gb drives or 1 x 24gb or some other mix. The > CD ROM sites on the same bus. I haven't tried the tape drive yet.. > Some time ago I acquired a PCI P/390 card (along with the various LIC files). I went down the same path as you to build a P/390 system with OS/2 but I kept running into problems with OS/2 versions and supported hardware. I finally gave up and acquired a PCI based RS/6000 that I’ll install AIX on and have an R/390. ;-) I haven’t had the time yet to make any progress on it. But it’s good to know that you’ve managed to do this if I decide to go back and attempt the PC route again. TTFN - Guy
RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> -Original Message- > From: Adam Thornton> Sent: 15 May 2018 16:35 > To: Dave Wade ; cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 > > > > > On May 14, 2018, at 11:29 PM, Dave Wade > wrote: > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Adam > >> Thornton via cctalk > >> Sent: 15 May 2018 03:03 > >> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > >> Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 > >> > >> I Frankensteined a P/390 together out of a P/325 server and the PCI > >> P/390 card back in the day. > >> > > > > I am told the PCI card is rather choosy about which servers it will run in. > > The > system came with most of a P330 as well, but no case. > > > It is pretty picky. It did not run in a whitebox PC I had at the time, but > the PC > Server 325 was close enough to its expected host that it was happy. I would > guess that any of the IBM x86 server machines from the right general era > would work. > > That machine now lives at the Living Computer Museum in Seattle, although I > do not know if they have it available for use. > OK I got a PCI P390 card in the bundle of spares but have nothing PCI server style to run it in. Where I worked we binned loads of X330's which might have been usable... > > > > > > It’s the RAID card that’s the problem, and it seems to have always been > temperamental. Did you use RAID in your P/325? > > > I don’t think I did. Have you tried just putting a different (OS/2-supported) > disk controller in and just not doing RAID? > That’s, in effect, what I did. Whilst there were Microchannel IDE Controllers I have never seen one. There are no IDE interfaces on the "Planar" so every thing must be on the MCA bus. So I bought a BusLogic BT646 SCSI card on E-Bay. I also bought an Adaptec card as a spare. I think I struck lucky with the BT646. It is a simple SCSI/2 card, no raid but it does have a BIOS with support for two bootable drives and a >4GB drive option. OS/2 has drivers for it so it works out of the box. The OS/2 boot disks find the drive and install the proper drivers. To compensate for the slower "narrow" drives I bought a SCSI2SD card that puts an SD card on the bus. OS/2 just sees it as a up two four drives depending on how I configure it. At present I have two 4gb drives. The card in it is 32gb so I can add 2 x 12gb drives or 1 x 24gb or some other mix. The CD ROM sites on the same bus. I haven't tried the tape drive yet.. > > > >> > >> I used mine to run VM/CMS and Linux (under VM) quite well. > >> > > > > I was thinking of trying Linux. I assume you ran Debian? > > > Indeed I did, although also SLES. I assume you found my NASPA article on > Debian on 390 from 2004? > I think that’s the one... > Adam > >
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RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 - now running
> -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Huntsman> Sent: 15 May 2018 00:32 > To: Dave Wade ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 - now running > > I seem to recall having to install some vram chips on my P/390 to get > 1024x768 resolution, but I think that was on my PC Server 330... It’s a separate display card. Real pain. The server came with a dead Cirrus Logic card but it now has an "IBM Display Adaptor/A" (I think) which should do 1024x768x256 colors. Must check. > > I’m glad you got it working! That is awesome! Did you get networking > functional? > Not through to VM. That’s next (after sorting the display) > Have fun! > > -Ben > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 14, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > Just to say I did end up doing a re-install of OS/2 on a smaller drive, > > which > took most of today, but the P390 software is now installed and I have loaded > VM/CMS and IPL'd a simple 3-pack system copied from Hercules. The > readme that comes with the P/390 V2.5 software explains how to set up the > systems so PCOMMS can talk to it. I still don't have the screen resolution > working at 1024 x 768 which the manual says it should. Oh and PMVNC also > runs so I can remote control the beast. It was all a bit of a slog, mostly > because OS/2 is a bit of a slog. The P/390 was the easy part. > > > > Thanks to all who helped, > > > > Dave > > > > > >
RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> -Original Message- > From: cctalkOn Behalf Of Adam Thornton > via cctalk > Sent: 15 May 2018 03:03 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 > > I Frankensteined a P/390 together out of a P/325 server and the PCI P/390 > card back in the day. > I am told the PCI card is rather choosy about which servers it will run in. The system came with most of a P330 as well, but no case. > I assume you do have the LIC for the P/390 card, without which you’re dead > in the water. > The latest version of the PC support tools simply load it from the P390 Advanced Diagnostics Disk. This was the bit I was worried about but it wasn't a problem at all. > At least the PCI model wasn’t picky about the disks it used. And I’m pretty > sure it’ll work with whatever the final Warp Server release was (4, maybe?) > by which time the native TCP/IP support was a lot better. It was a nice > little > machine for its day, although Hercules is now many times its speed on > modern hardware. It’s the RAID card that’s the problem, and it seems to have always been temperamental. Did you use RAID in your P/325? > > I used mine to run VM/CMS and Linux (under VM) quite well. > I was thinking of trying Linux. I assume you ran Debian? > Adam Dave