Re: DG/UX install media
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:17 PM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 10/11/2018 2:33 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:06 PM alan--- via cctalk > > wrote: > > > >>However I have not been able to read the ISO images - as they don't > >> appear to have the proper magic/headers for ISO. Can anyone else work > >> their file-type-foo on them and give me any hints? > >> > > One of them is ISO: > > [tingo@kg-elitebook ISOs]$ file *[iIsSoO] > > C2 Trusted DGUX Option Rev 5.4R3.00T.iso: data > > DGUX 5.4R3.00.ISO:data > > DGUX 5.4R3.10 Documentation.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem > > data 'DOCUMENTATION_CDROM' > > DGUX 5.4R3-R3.10.MU01.ISO:data > > > > Maybe they are just dumps? In whatever format DG/UX expects > > There could be hints on the documentation ISO. > > Unfortunately, the files on the documentation ISO is in "WorldView" > > format (aka "printerleaf") and a converter (pl2ps) can't be easily > > found. > > But - iview for Windows (NT) is on the ISO, maybe it will run under WINE? > > -- > > Regards, > > Torfinn Ingolfsen > I looked at the three "data" ISOs, and there is something going on which > appears to be a 512 byte related relation. > > Also two of them have a reference to bad blocks, which are probably not > related to cdroms. > > Someone else suggested these were dumps of hard drives or such, which > seems very likely. > Not surprising that they are not making sense as an ISO image. > > thanks > jim > FYI: I just burned "DGUX 5.43-R3.10.MU1.ISO to disc and booted it successfully on my AViiON 8500. Haven't tried the others yet, but I'm guessing they're OK too. - Josh
Re: DG/UX install media
On 10/11/2018 2:33 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:06 PM alan--- via cctalk wrote: However I have not been able to read the ISO images - as they don't appear to have the proper magic/headers for ISO. Can anyone else work their file-type-foo on them and give me any hints? One of them is ISO: [tingo@kg-elitebook ISOs]$ file *[iIsSoO] C2 Trusted DGUX Option Rev 5.4R3.00T.iso: data DGUX 5.4R3.00.ISO:data DGUX 5.4R3.10 Documentation.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'DOCUMENTATION_CDROM' DGUX 5.4R3-R3.10.MU01.ISO:data Maybe they are just dumps? In whatever format DG/UX expects There could be hints on the documentation ISO. Unfortunately, the files on the documentation ISO is in "WorldView" format (aka "printerleaf") and a converter (pl2ps) can't be easily found. But - iview for Windows (NT) is on the ISO, maybe it will run under WINE? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen I looked at the three "data" ISOs, and there is something going on which appears to be a 512 byte related relation. Also two of them have a reference to bad blocks, which are probably not related to cdroms. Someone else suggested these were dumps of hard drives or such, which seems very likely. Not surprising that they are not making sense as an ISO image. thanks jim
VT320 Fonts
Does anyone know of any more downloadable VT320 fonts and glyphs? This is about all I could find at the moment. https://vt100.net/dec/vt320/fonts Trying to find some Cyrillic fonts so that Tetris looks right. I suppose I can try to write my own, but that would take a good bit of effort to get it looking right. Also, is there a way to dump the existing font on a VT320 in the DRCS format? Thanks, Kyle
Re: DG/UX install media
If you haven't found it already: https://secure.ping.de/~fdc/m88k/av300/nvram.html -Alan On 2018-10-11 11:02, Sophie Haskins via cctalk wrote: I'm pretty sure these are just raw images, as Torfinn suggested. If you run strings(1) on them, you see the contents of all sorts of shell scripts and the text portion of binaries, etc. I'm guessing that the images have a partition table header that libmagic just doesn't know about. I'm waiting on a new NVRAM chip to arrive in order to boot my AViiON from these disks - if that arrives before we verify the disks, I'll report back with how it goes.
Re: DG/UX install media
I'm pretty sure these are just raw images, as Torfinn suggested. If you run strings(1) on them, you see the contents of all sorts of shell scripts and the text portion of binaries, etc. I'm guessing that the images have a partition table header that libmagic just doesn't know about. I'm waiting on a new NVRAM chip to arrive in order to boot my AViiON from these disks - if that arrives before we verify the disks, I'll report back with how it goes. On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:02 AM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 13:42, alan--- via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I've tried loop mounting with no success. Is there a software tool > > (Linux or Windows) that will burn a non-ISO image to a CD? Most > > expect/assume ISO-9660. > > On Windows (a few years ago, I no longer run it in normal use), my > personal favourite was ImgBurn. Simple, free, Just Works™. > > http://www.imgburn.com/ > > From the site: > > « > ImgBurn supports a wide range of image file formats - including BIN, > CCD, CDI, CUE, DI, DVD, GI, IMG, ISO, MDS, NRG and PDI. > » > > -- > Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com > Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven > UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
Re: DG/UX install media
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 13:42, alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > I've tried loop mounting with no success. Is there a software tool > (Linux or Windows) that will burn a non-ISO image to a CD? Most > expect/assume ISO-9660. On Windows (a few years ago, I no longer run it in normal use), my personal favourite was ImgBurn. Simple, free, Just Works™. http://www.imgburn.com/ >From the site: « ImgBurn supports a wide range of image file formats - including BIN, CCD, CDI, CUE, DI, DVD, GI, IMG, ISO, MDS, NRG and PDI. » -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
Re: DG/UX install media
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 07:42 alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > I've tried loop mounting with no success. Is there a software tool > (Linux or Windows) that will burn a non-ISO image to a CD? Most > expect/assume ISO-9660. > cdrecord or wodim should burn anything you want to the disk. They wouldn't care if it contains an iso9660 filesystem or not. Pat
Re: DG/UX install media
I've tried loop mounting with no success. Is there a software tool (Linux or Windows) that will burn a non-ISO image to a CD? Most expect/assume ISO-9660. I don't have a keyboard or proper SCSI cable yet for my Aviion, so I can't try booting anything. I supposed I could just point a SCSI2SD emulator at those files and see what happens. Thanks, -Alan On 2018-10-11 06:25, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 11:33, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: Maybe they are just dumps? In whatever format DG/UX expects There could be hints on the documentation ISO. Unfortunately, the files on the documentation ISO is in "WorldView" format (aka "printerleaf") and a converter (pl2ps) can't be easily found. But - iview for Windows (NT) is on the ISO, maybe it will run under WINE? From my experience with Acorn RISC OS and classic MacOS machines and CDs, I found that though they can mount and read standard CD images formats, for booting and installing, they tended to need media formatted with those OSes' own filesystems. I think VMS is the same. So there might well be an ISO image for stuff you might need on other machines, and the rest in some DG/UX filesystem -- I have never seen it so I have no idea what. AO/VS II? UFS or some variant thereof? In the spirit of blind fumbling I might just try loopback-mounting the images on a modern-ish Linux and see if it can autodetect the FS.
Re: DG/UX install media
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 11:33, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: > > Maybe they are just dumps? In whatever format DG/UX expects > There could be hints on the documentation ISO. > Unfortunately, the files on the documentation ISO is in "WorldView" > format (aka "printerleaf") and a converter (pl2ps) can't be easily > found. > But - iview for Windows (NT) is on the ISO, maybe it will run under WINE? >From my experience with Acorn RISC OS and classic MacOS machines and CDs, I found that though they can mount and read standard CD images formats, for booting and installing, they tended to need media formatted with those OSes' own filesystems. I think VMS is the same. So there might well be an ISO image for stuff you might need on other machines, and the rest in some DG/UX filesystem -- I have never seen it so I have no idea what. AO/VS II? UFS or some variant thereof? In the spirit of blind fumbling I might just try loopback-mounting the images on a modern-ish Linux and see if it can autodetect the FS. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
Re: DG/UX install media
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:06 PM alan--- via cctalk wrote: > However I have not been able to read the ISO images - as they don't > appear to have the proper magic/headers for ISO. Can anyone else work > their file-type-foo on them and give me any hints? > One of them is ISO: [tingo@kg-elitebook ISOs]$ file *[iIsSoO] C2 Trusted DGUX Option Rev 5.4R3.00T.iso: data DGUX 5.4R3.00.ISO:data DGUX 5.4R3.10 Documentation.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'DOCUMENTATION_CDROM' DGUX 5.4R3-R3.10.MU01.ISO:data Maybe they are just dumps? In whatever format DG/UX expects There could be hints on the documentation ISO. Unfortunately, the files on the documentation ISO is in "WorldView" format (aka "printerleaf") and a converter (pl2ps) can't be easily found. But - iview for Windows (NT) is on the ISO, maybe it will run under WINE? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen
RE: Digico computer
p...@vintage-icl-computers.com But Pete who? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave Wade via cctalk Sent: 11 October 2018 09:23 To: 'Christian Corti'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Digico computer WHOIS shows domain was renewed June time... Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Christian Corti > via cctalk > Sent: 11 October 2018 08:44 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: RE: Digico computer > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, it was written > > Did you contact the guy with the drawings? > > Yes but I haven't heard back from him, yet. At least the mail hasn't bounced. > Does anyone know the person who runs vintage-icl-computers.com ? > There is no name, address or anything there, and I wonder if the site is still > alive. > > Christian
RE: Digico computer
WHOIS shows domain was renewed June time... Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Christian Corti > via cctalk > Sent: 11 October 2018 08:44 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: RE: Digico computer > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, it was written > > Did you contact the guy with the drawings? > > Yes but I haven't heard back from him, yet. At least the mail hasn't bounced. > Does anyone know the person who runs vintage-icl-computers.com ? > There is no name, address or anything there, and I wonder if the site is still > alive. > > Christian
RE: Digico computer
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, it was written Did you contact the guy with the drawings? Yes but I haven't heard back from him, yet. At least the mail hasn't bounced. Does anyone know the person who runs vintage-icl-computers.com ? There is no name, address or anything there, and I wonder if the site is still alive. Christian
